I'm lv 60 now should I make my own armors?

shiaaa333
shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
edited July 2011 in Cleric
I'm mag build cleric of lv 60. I'm wearing the robe of scared tortoise right now and I got killed fast by lv40s mobs of twice hp than me... That's so embarrassing... Is there any way to improve my def? If making armors how to do it?
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Don't make new armor. Use 3* armors from drops/AH and maybe the rank robe if you invested in rep.
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    whats Ah? and how to get rank robe?
  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Aww my post got deleted lol.

    Anyways. AH is auction house. Click coordinate assistant in archosaur and click on auctioneer it will autopath you to it.

    And to get rank robe you buy Wraith officer badges from catshops in south arch next to the TT forges and take them to the commander-in-chief. You need 5k rep to get the robe.
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    wheres commander in chief? and wheres tt forges?
  • SinFulGodX - Sanctuary
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »
    wheres commander in chief? and wheres tt forges?

    You're a lvl 60 b:shocked

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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »
    wheres commander in chief? and wheres tt forges?

    Stop buying FC heads and figure this shiit out.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    And maybe you should try to heal yourself. People say it keeps you alive
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  • Bluelita - Archosaur
    Bluelita - Archosaur Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Your post was a little bit short, so it is difficult to know why does mobs kill you.. but:

    Step 1 : Read all the stickies in the forum. You already came here to ask for help, this is a good step. If you read all these guides, it will help you a lot. Try to enter the page of PWI Wiki http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/, many useful informations to read.

    Step 2 : Use this page to find the location of all NPC, mobs, materials to farm and many other useful information http://pwdatabase.com/.
    You will know where are the forges and what are reputation points from the quoted below pages web.

    Step 3 : After reading this you still die? Then tell us with which kind of mobs -> if you die in dungeons (caves, instances, bh/fb or however you want to call it) with mobs lower than you, it is rather normal (but also can depend of your build).
    What is your current armor and weapon? Which techniques of killing do you use?
  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I got killed by the tomato head in the gate of delirium when I tried to solo the required mobs in the cave for the quest. I tried to heal myself but not fast enough at all...b:surrender

    Stop buying FC heads and figure this shiit out.


    whats FC heads? What do they do?
  • brazenbusboy
    brazenbusboy Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Welcome to the death spiral of PW, where established players automatically heap scorn and bile on any newcomer who asks for help.

    If you haven't picked up on it yet, the company that runs PW has pretty much abandon the concepts and original premise the game was first designed with (where you level up via quests, and team instances) for a totally Pay to Win scenario. If you were looking for what was on the tin, i.e. questing and squad based instances to level, that is not PW anymore.

    You can try to follow that path, but be prepared to wait days sometimes to find a squad to complete a simple cultivation boss or Call of Duty. At one time PW added a big experience award to high players to help lowbies complete Call of Duty runs, but many newer high level instances that yield big experience gains and the general Pay to Win situation, that amount of experience is no longer attractive and few high level players help with Call of Duties now.

    FC relates to an instance where low players pay large sums to high players who clear the dungeon of most of the mobs, leaving easy to kill bosses that give incredible amounts of experience. Many players level most of their levels through this method, which leaves them near endgame with little to no real experience of how to normally function in a team. The high level players do it because they are desparate to earn cash to be able to afford the gear that defines their viability at those levels.

    You sound like you are new to MMOs and new to PW, so I would recommend you roll an Assassin, or Mystic. These two new 'fish' classes are much simpler to play than Cleric and considered by many to be over powered(read easy to play).

    While you should be able to take single mobs up to your level, several lower level mobs at that same time can be lethal, so you need to study up on pulling, (how to pull mobs from a group to fight them one at a time.)

    Dont waste you time futzing around with armour until endgame. Your skills make more difference in your survivability. Combat outcome is basically calculated by comparing your attack/defense levels with that of the mobs. Armor at lower levels, even the best available, makes such a small difference that for the most part, many players wear the average stuff they get from mob drops. At lower levels armor is most epeen/fashion territory. It makes more of a difference cosmetically than it does effectively.

    Your weapon does make a major difference and you should amass enough coin (buy it via Zen, merchant, or grind it) to purchase the best weapon for your class you can find from other players via player shops or the Auction House. You should be looking at damage and buffing key skills for your build As a cleric you may look for things that buff MP, channeling, etc.

    There are some insane buffing armors at end game, but you have to get there first, either by paying for levels, or grinding using your skills.
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    But I don't like the hairstyles from other classes... That's why I choose cleric... I don't think I want to play another char before they come up with some new hairstyles for the other classes.. or before my cleric reaches maybe abt lv 100?


    How to pull mob one at a time??
  • Poison_Ice - Raging Tide
    Poison_Ice - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    How to pull mob one at a time??
    whats FC heads? What do they do?
    wheres commander in chief? and wheres tt forges?
    whats Ah? and how to get rank robe?

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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I went to the forges and checked the armors but they r not as good as my current ones at all. the better one r not my lv..
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    <_<...Shiaaa I'm worried about you. You're always posting about having trouble playing your cleric. Perhaps it's time to share with us exactly what you've been doing with your stat points, and what skills you've decided to level...because I have a sneaking suspicion you don't know what purify is and use Blessing of the Pure Hearted as your main heal. .__.
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    My stats? I said that in the 1st post already? or ur stats means something else that i don't kno abt???
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »
    My stats? I said that in the 1st post already? or ur stats means something else that i don't kno abt???

    Could you use this site and tells what your armor and stats are? http://pwcalc.com/

    Then tell us what you consider your highest priority skills and what level they are, I would also like to know what you typically do in the following situations. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just you've posted quite a few questions that you should know the answer to so I want to see if we can help figure out what the problem is. If you want you can just hit qoute and then put answers underneath my questions.


    Attacking a normal mob:


    Attacking a magical resistance mob:


    Healing a tank in a squad instance when fighting a boss


    Healing DDs in a squad instance


    A DD goes to lure a mob:


    A DD starts taking damage in an instance:


    A tank starts taking damage in an instance:


    Something goes wrong and you've drawn the aggro of a mob:
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Attacking a normal mob:
    i have no prob atk a normal mob

    Attacking a magical resistance mob:

    use plume shots
    Healing a tank in a squad instance when fighting a boss
    IH+WS

    Healing DDs in a squad instance

    whats DDs?
    A DD goes to lure a mob:


    A DD starts taking damage in an instance:


    A tank starts taking damage in an instance:

    IH
    Something goes wrong and you've drawn the aggro of a mob:
    run




    vit 30
    mag 263
    str 35
    dex 7

    Iill put down the gears part later since its gonna take a while to fill all that in..
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »

    Attacking a normal mob:
    i have no prob atk a normal mob

    Attacking a magical resistance mob:

    use plume shots
    If you want, you can open with razor feathers provided it's not too close to other mobs. You can also use the skill dimensional seal + purify to weaken it to your plume shots as it comes towards you. You use purify so you do not suffer the debuff that is placed on yourself. Only do this if you're decent with your timing though.


    Healing a tank in a squad instance when fighting a boss
    IH+WS
    Do you use an IH stack and then WS when things go bad, or do you alternate IH then WS. I'm going to assume you mean the that you keep them IH stacked. But just in case, I figured I'd let you know that Iron heart does indeed stack. Basically this means that you can make the heals stronger by casting another IH. Also later on in the game, you can replace WS with SoR for high hp targets like barbs if you need to stabilize their hp, eg you've let them to get to half health. Still use WS if you don't have time to channel SoR.

    Healing DDs in a squad instance

    whats DDs?
    A DD goes to lure a mob:


    A DD starts taking damage in an instance:


    A tank starts taking damage in an instance:

    IH

    This one is kind of a trick question. Soz. First make sure that the tank has aggro of all the mobs that attacking him, or that someone does at least. Then you can use IH. Also if they are attacking more than they can really handle, or more than 2-3 other people are taking quite a bit of damage you can do two things depending on the situation. First thing is always IH stack the tank. Then you can either throw in some chromatic healing beams or throw up a BB depending on the situation.

    Something goes wrong and you've drawn the aggro of a mob:
    run

    Running away is about the worse thing you can do. First if you're taking physical damage (which is usually the case) throw up plume shell and get an ih stack on yourself. Then move TOWARDS the tank, so that it is easier to take aggro off you. I like to do this through use of the mini map so that my char is auto pathing to him and I can ask for help in the squad interface. Once you can try to get absolute domain on your genie, it makes you immune to damage for a short amount of time. Long enough for a comptent squad member to get aggro off of you.



    vit 30
    mag 263
    str 35
    dex 7

    Stats look good. You have an extra two points into dex that you do not need, but since it doesn't seem as though you've been levelling it I'm gonna assume this was a stat mistake early level. Two points is no big deal, if you plan to restat vit out once you get end game and have really nice refines and shards then put priority on getting the dex back down to 5 before touching the vit.

    Iill put down the gears part later since its gonna take a while to fill all that in..

    DDs are damage dealers, basically everyone in you squad who isn't you or the tank. :D Okay, while I wait on the gear I see some problems now that I can answer based off what you provided. I put the responses in yellow.
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Healing DDs in a squad instance
    IH stack

    A DD goes to lure a mob:

    Ih stack
    A DD starts taking damage in an instance:

    Ih stack, Ws if hp drop too much.




    my stats
    http://pwcalc.com/9711d1bb882fa439

    I can't find the name of some gears I'm wearing in the list of this site. They are:

    bloody shadow necklass

    imperial eldict belt

    emerald meteor

    deap ocean ring

    xanadu hat ( mag def+16)
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »


    Healing DDs in a squad instance
    IH stack
    monitor their health but in general instead of IH stacking them using a chromatic healing beam on them and keeping the tank IH stacked is more effective. If they tend to run off and do their own thing at your level then they are probably rushing towards groups of mobs and then your IH is pulling aggro from mobs that they haven't aggroed.

    A DD goes to lure a mob:

    Ih stack

    If they are next to you, this is good. If they are already in luring position, do not heal them.
    A DD starts taking damage in an instance:

    Ih stack, Ws if hp drop too much.

    good


    my stats
    http://pwcalc.com/9711d1bb882fa439

    I can't find the name of some gears I'm wearing in the list of this site. They are:

    bloody shadow necklass

    imperial eldict belt

    emerald meteor

    deap ocean ring

    xanadu hat ( mag def+16)

    Okay, so more or less this is what you are working with then. http://pwcalc.com/4a694788797e630c Well I think I see one of the big problems. :) Do not shard with magic defense shards, or mana shards. Your naturally high magic stat means you already have good defense in that department. Your physical defense is too low. I would just deal with this gear until level 70 since you're about to get new gear anyway. If you want to improve survivability now, put some garnet shards in your armor so that it will increase your physical defense. When you are level 70, I would go with this gear. You can get the crystal headdress now, get the sleeves of sea captain when you hit 77. Now of course there is better gear, and for the ones I just put average gear still try to find a 3 star with good add ons. Trust me it will make a big difference. Also you can put in more or less vit than I did if you want. You should also try to refine you gear a bit if you have money left over. IF you have money for the better gear such as warsoul helm instead of crystal headdress, but if not then this should work pretty well.

    http://pwcalc.com/748b421be1ba6ec7


    Replies in yellow as usual. Hope this information has been helpful :)
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  • shiaaa333
    shiaaa333 Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    But my recent sleeve is better than the one sold at tailor... so do the belts and necklass stuff.
    I only found the sleeve of cosmos at tailor available. Other parts are not available at the moment... I'm also trying the legendary forge right now, but I don't have enough mats nor molds, not to mention that my tailor skills only lv1...
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    shiaaa333 wrote: »
    But my recent sleeve is better than the one sold at tailor... so do the belts and necklass stuff.
    I only found the sleeve of cosmos at tailor available. Other parts are not available at the moment... I'm also trying the legendary forge right now, but I don't have enough mats nor molds, not to mention that my tailor skills only lv1...

    If you have better sleeve than the 3 star stuff I showed, use that. This isn't these best roflpwn gear you can wear at 70, it's simply a more reasonably priced one that will help you do good in instances. Also, a lot of that is level req 70 you can start doing TT runs pretty soon to farm the materials for any TT70 gear I listed. I don't think you should use the ones at the tailor, instead go to the auction house and find a three star with good add ons. The filter will list them as sleeve of cosmos, but there are one star sleeves, two star, and three stars. Try to find a three star with good adds on (+vit, +mag, +phys def, +hp, -chan are all possible adds you may find. Any of those are good. Ignore adds such +max durability)

    You can also buy molds at the auction house and farm the mats and have a guild/friend make it, or you can buy them premade in the auction house.
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