Do seekers hit hard?

Seekers do hit hard in terms of AoEs when fighting a group of mobs. Sins will DD single targets better than any HA class in the game.

Seekers feel pretty weak early in the game, but once you get to endgame with better gear and maybe some sage/demon skills, they can hit unsparked 5 figure damage pretty consistently with each attack skill, but they are still outmatched in damage by sins when it comes to single targets.

If you want to choose between the two, I'd make a decision based on what you want to do endgame. PvE-wise, sins are just generally accepted into farming instances as they are the primary DD and seekers play more of squad support for Bh100s and nirvana, but they are desired for delta over sins most of the time. If you can, develop both b:victory.

Seekers hitting power shines alot in endgame gears, and content. We have -some- good PvE qualities, but for hard hitting action, we are riseing to be kings in mass PvP events.

1-2% more crit rate worth the dmg i lose if i choose the later build?

In my own personal opinion, No. We with required dex rate for weapon get a decent amount of crit strike % along side endgame gears. Im at around 25% now...and I do crit alot.. So really its a perspective deal.

As far as gears, I personally followed the rank line, However any TT gears are fine, and even a mix. r8 is awesome for seekers, and reliably cheap. If you start saving now on the seeker, there is no reason by the time he hits 100 he couldnt get it... As far as end of endgame gears, I personally wish lunar was more popular b:cry Sage seekers would benefit nice from a full set of lunar... but since TT is a chosen path by many, that is prob your best focus TT-nivana path- provided you don't go r9.

I tested around with a 6 str/ 4 dex per 2 lvl build, capping at 300 str and 200 dex, and I have to say the extra crit rate isn't worth it (I restatted, ofc). Dex should be capped at 160 at the highest because that's all you'll need for gear and should capitalize at the latest crit % breakpoint around that area. I really like the damage seekers can do when you add more STR to the build -- so much that I didn't even add a single point to VIT.

I share the same thoughts about gears as ReMakaBo above except that I'm not a fan of lunar :P. I like rank or TT more b:avoid

Pre-game forum reading has now urged me to log on and slice monsters with said sword.. b:dirtyb:nosebleed

It is a bit more of a challenge to get the rep (while on sales from catshops it can run 60-80ish mil) when you are relying on your first character. But it is very possible. For most part you need to look into efficient spending when it comes to what you choose to buy while leveling.

TT equipment, while nice to have, isn't always the most efficient gears to purchase. Legendary equipment is cheap, and very efficient in regards to money spent on gears at low levels.

Workig the merchants/ AH, finding high demand products for quick sale prices, turn them around and sale them at market value.

Take advantage of sales events. from the boutique. Just like right now packs have been on sale for many weeks, If you had taken advantage of the sale since day 1 of the sales, went and farmed atleast enough coin to buy 1 pack a day from a cat-shop. When the sale ends you could have had several hundred packs in bank, and nearlly tripple the price when they end (basically at gold value) Just would have had to keep from getting the temptation to open them. But 1 pack a day = what 500k? anyoe could farm that solo.

Just some small examples to think about. Same could be done during -orb sales- -rep sales- and so on...

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

In my own personal opinion, No. We with required dex rate for weapon get a decent amount of crit strike % along side endgame gears. Im at around 25% now...and I do crit alot.. So really its a perspective deal.

As far as gears, I personally followed the rank line, However any TT gears are fine, and even a mix. r8 is awesome for seekers, and reliably cheap. If you start saving now on the seeker, there is no reason by the time he hits 100 he couldnt get it... As far as end of endgame gears, I personally wish lunar was more popular b:cry Sage seekers would benefit nice from a full set of lunar... but since TT is a chosen path by many, that is prob your best focus TT-nivana path- provided you don't go r9.

lol if they dropped the 3 mil a run cost for luner ( wich they obveisly should) it would be farmed like crazy and probably out class most hh armor as far *** seekers go. kinda stupid having to pay to run a cave for gear -.- especially now that only the weapons r used and cave isnt even needed for them.

origenal question yes seekers hit like a frait train im only lvl 60 seeker ( just got double spark) and i already hit 27k without any other squad members helping. so thats without dragons, subsea, veno amp, or any other of those debuffs or buffs. and to be honest the genie i used to hit that isnt that great either XD. this dude had it right. it takes time but once u learn the tools of the trade ur a beast

QQ my computer is seriously ****** up right now so i cant get ANY playing done. could a high lvl seeker get some freinds and dmg test this combo for me.

lvl 90 fire lotus sword+sage spark+mire(high str genie)+frenzy+dragons+veno amp+subsea+any other amping debuffs u can manage to get on it such as barb or cleric debuffs. then tell me how hard it hitt and if the number is with a crit or not or zerk

(i only say fire lotus cuz thats the sword ill have at 90 and will be keeping for awile)

why dont you buy them from other players and get them from the DQ listb:avoid

Hmm farming coin and buying packs now why i didn t think of that.b:puzzled Maybe i should abandon getting tt 90 chest and boots. I would of been farming for rank 8 gear right now but sales ending no point.

I need 12.5mil game coin for rank 6. So i decided to farm up coin for the next sale so i can get the ranks.

LllGhOsTlll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But I get coin rly slow, and that's why I ask for your advice.
ReMakaBo said that anyone can farm 500k a day but I can't even do that lol. I don't know how, where etc. Maybe it's cause I'm too low lvl but even with my bm I didn't earn that much >.<

Maybe I can't earn much since I play 3-4 hours a day.

honestly, the way to make lots of coin in game doesn't involve farming.

don't get me wrong, i've nothing against farmers --- they're needed in the game economy. but just like farming in real life, it's not a way to get rich quick. merchanting is that.

on this level-71 veno i can grind maybe 100k per hour during normal 1x drops, give or take some, depending on luck. that's not really farming, just grinding mainly for pet XP, so an experienced farmer running Lenie might well do more --- perhaps as much as 150-200k per hour, i can't be sure of the precise numbers. grinding on a same-level seeker would be less profitable, because of the potion costs; i'd level to at least 75 (for the HP/MP token foods) before trying that.

a good catshopper can fairly easily make one to three million coins a day, and most of that time they're AFK while their plate-biting cat makes that money on autopilot. if they want to, they can farm or grind in addition to the merchanting.

grind or farm enough to start merchanting, then do that. grind or farm in addition to merchanting if and as you please. i'm willing to bet you'll make more money from the merchanting, before very long at all.

Forgot to say triple spark and the move was gemini slash.

Murderfists - Lost City wrote: »

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With tangling mire, frenzy, heart shatter and critical on both. Not sure what other classes do but, it's alright.

so 110k without a zerk sword or other classes debuffs. thats pretty beast. someone seriously has to redo a dmg test once r9 is finally released for seekers. lol full r9 zerk will be badass

Murderfists - Lost City wrote: »

Those were just the two best of the very few times I tried also. Also, I'm a noob vit build. I put 1 into vit all the way to 100 and the sword is only +6. So, a pure dd with +10-12 may be obnoxious. I'd have loved to have seen that with some buffs, rb and dragons though. b:laugh

To my understanding, RB overwrites Triple Spark, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I knew it overwrote the attack speed. didn't realize it did your attack too. but, subsea is a nice addition for sure. Definately can't wait to see r9 zerk crits once they release.