So why were the mats from FCC removed?

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
edited June 2011 in General Discussion
I know FCC used to have mats to make Frost gear but then they removed them...
Why? FCC would have actually been sort of enjoyable if they kept them.
I think they did it so people would have to CS for Aquadash etc...
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    They also nerfed FCC and turned it into an XP instance when they did this.

    When it was for farming, it was like TT/lunar (IE: More difficult bosses, low experience gain, mats used to make gear). With the nerf, though, FCC became so easy that we'd probably be so flooded with mats that they'd become near worthless... and would be something else to complain about nowadays.
  • Pakoshi - Dreamweaver
    Pakoshi - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Make it easier to level, make it harder to get gear without cash shopping . . .

    There's no way they'd do that.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    truekossy wrote: »
    They also nerfed FCC and turned it into an XP instance when they did this.

    When it was for farming, it was like TT/lunar (IE: More difficult bosses, low experience gain, mats used to make gear). With the nerf, though, FCC became so easy that we'd probably be so flooded with mats that they'd become near worthless... and would be something else to complain about nowadays.

    They could reintroduce it just at much lower drop rates for obvious reasons.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    They could reintroduce it just at much lower drop rates for obvious reasons.

    That, I agree with.

    Considering that they do have green and (some) gold gear as drops, I don't see why they don't either allow all the golds to drop at the same abysmal rate (very few overall do the last part of FCC where all the gold drops are, so the flood wouldn't be too horrible) or just re-introduce the mats at a lower drop rate.

    Well, the obvious answer is so they can make more $$ from packs but... yeah. >_>
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have a gold FC hat that I have kept RELIGIOUSLY since they got rid of FC mats just so I can look cool b:surrender

    Ofc after the tourney was re-introduced and I saw the Warsoul hats, I felt less cool D:
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  • Asthariel - Dreamweaver
    Asthariel - Dreamweaver Posts: 498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have a gold FC hat that I have kept RELIGIOUSLY since they got rid of FC mats just so I can look cool b:surrender

    Ofc after the tourney was re-introduced and I saw the Warsoul hats, I felt less cool D:

    I got one too :p The arcane one with channeling (moonshade mirage headwear). And I still do use it. Why pay 25 mil for a warsoul one when you have something quite as good for less than half the price (payed mine 8 mil, refined and sharded) and that is muuuuch more rare and looks cooler ? <.<
  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    At the beginning NPC they could just have 2 options.

    A. Exp FF

    B. Gear FF (old FF)

    Simple, but beyond the developers' comprehension.
  • drjiggle
    drjiggle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    My theory, which is 100% speculation, has always been that they planned to put the mats back in with obvious changes to the drop rates but were forced by management to release the instance before they were able to finish. You can sort of see the same thing in the new Lunar where certain valleys still (to the best of my knowledge) don't really work.

    It wouldn't be a big deal if all of the old Frost items dropped from bosses, but many / most don't. As a result, those items have been effectively removed from the game. You can't get the items, and you can't get the mats to make them.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    the gear DOES drop from bosses t's just like packs a 1:10000000 shot
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    notice there's absolutely ZERO response on this thread? They dont' want to flat out admit they could give a rat's *** about the normal players anbd want everything good in the cash shop forcing u to charge at some point, even just a little. Free gear in a advertised free to play game? Gear u can take time to farm for and work for? ......................... lol ya right **** that, empty your wallets.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    notice there's absolutely ZERO response on this thread? They dont' want to flat out admit they could give a rat's *** about the normal players anbd want everything good in the cash shop forcing u to charge at some point, even just a little. Free gear in a advertised free to play game? Gear u can take time to farm for and work for? ......................... lol ya right **** that, empty your wallets.

    notice there's absolutely ZERO response on ANY thread? b:bye
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    the mats that dropped were TT gold mats. go to TT if you want them
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    no **** sherlock, i think they mean the OTHER MATS u need that dropped in FF....... /facepalm

    and no not ALL the gear drops from bosses. quite a bit, rarely, but not all of it.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    no **** sherlock, i think they mean the OTHER MATS u need that dropped in FF....... /facepalm

    and no not ALL the gear drops from bosses. quite a bit, rarely, but not all of it.
    I've seen both green and gold drop
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    nah really? I KNOW both green and gold drop, try reading. not ALL of it is in drop lists. Some gear we CAN"T MAKE anymore. god i love idiots who try to argue and don't have a clue.....

    hell and here's a better one. not to many people want the crappy green rings....... hell i've got one in the faction bank just sitting there. lol You need the green rings and other mats to make the gold ones.. but hey, you can't MAKE the gold ones anymore cause u can't GET THE OTHER MATS. Hence most the green **** drop are USELESS.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    god i love idiots who try to argue and don't have a clue.....
    god I love when people hide behind alts that shouldn't know squat about the instance..

    do you NOT see my level? I have JUST been able to start getting into FC
    I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    then why are u trying to tell me u can get all the drops there? try reading the thread first (or other threads) before opening that mouth. >.<

    And why the hell does it matter what fracking toon i'm on.. I didn't even look at your lvl... just read what u wrote and you're wrong.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    then why are u trying to tell me u can get all the drops there? try reading the thread first (or other threads) before opening that mouth. >.<

    And why the hell does it matter what fracking toon i'm on.. I didn't even look at your lvl... just read what u wrote and you're wrong.
    when exactly did I say the word ALL?
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    well u quoted my post whre i said NOT all of it drops, then said you've seen both green and gold... i assumed u meant all of both can drop....... ugh nvm i'm wasting time with this **** lol
  • RosangeIa - Heavens Tear
    RosangeIa - Heavens Tear Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Saddens me still that FF can't be farmed for what it was meant. I envy the folks on PW in China when it first released. They got all the content as it was meant to be. I don't know, was FF still farmable on PW-MY for a while?

    Either way I wish we'd been given more a chance to farm it. It'd be a hell of a lot less boring to have some variety to the dungeons we can farm. And you can get some pretty awesome gear from the old FF forge.

    But they don't care really, it's all about money here. They saw opportunity to put those farmable equipment in packs and went for that instead. More money in their pockets. At least Lunar is still farmable but how many people actually want to pay a 3mil entrance fee each run? :/ I rarely if ever see people shouting for Lunar runs and I myself have only done maybe four in the 3+ years I've been on here.
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