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angellicdeity wrote: »

Maybe if you didn't know... But TW formations came from Elayne for the latter half of the CQ's existence.

You know nothing of CQ. Elayne pretty much copied and pasted Daikoku's way of formation. Never speak of CQ again. Besides, it was Arravis who lead us to victory in the end. Elayne quit because he was overwhelmed by what damage the packs would do.

Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »

lol, idk about a lot of that, but from the looks of it ur implying nagare split because of some type of drama with wadzio, which isn't the case. Long story short, a lot of us including Maiya (leader) got tired of the game about the time packs came out and just started to give up hope in PWI. Most of us quit within a few months and other core members like YellowFlash, Sigurros and myself (theres others, i cant think of everyone) decided to try TW based guilds like kamisama/yakuza/cq/spectral to try and reignite their interest in the game, since nagare's goal was never to be a factor guild, mostly to be a friendly family (carebear) guild with few kos.

But anyways, small history lesson aside. Nagare didnt split because of any drama(sure there was a little bit of drama in guild, but what guild doesnt have drama, nothing that would cause a guild split). We 'peacefully' just chose to pursue different paths.

I don't know. The members who came to essence pretty much got tired of you taking Wadzio's Spectral/Unity word over theirs. I think thats pretty much "Split by Wadzio drama".

Xtacy - Lost City wrote: »

You know nothing of CQ. Elayne pretty much copied and pasted Daikoku's way of formation. Never speak of CQ again. Besides, it was Arravis who lead us to victory in the end. Elayne quit because he was overwhelmed by what damage the packs would do.

And yet Daikoku didn't really do much? Contradictory? And Arravis leading you to victory? What? When the only guild you had to worry about was the remaining pieces of a fractured Bloodlust? and when they couldn't really do much?

Xtacy - Lost City wrote: »

Lol? You must be confused. When we were being triple attacked it was Arravis who took over TW formation. (Still in some form using Daikoku's formation, but at least he changed it up a bit)

Daikoky didn't really do much? Who are you to think you know this? You read Rose's assumption and went with
that? You need to work on your ignorance regarding these topics. That or s.t.f.u.

Actually 2 people stated it. If you think your opinion triumphs general consensus which is 2:1 against you, then by all means take your ignorance and take your own advice. But then again you could say Amour was really from RageQuit and many of the opinions are that of the outside looking in?

What do I not know I've done? O_O

Dai did a lot for a long time in CQ, then when the game went to **** he started to do a lot less and it seems this is where people get their misinformed opinion of him. Even when he wasn't all that active he still did his job.

Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »

the only person who i could think of that "might" hold a grudge is LauraAngel.

you know thats him. b:chuckle

*ehem*

http://nyan.cat/
b:laugh

KedgeSniper - Lost City wrote: »

gtfo ugly bow ;o

my bow is pwnz yo b:cool

angellicdeity wrote: »

I think Diesel is the leader, but at any rate many of the Rank 9's who started Rank 9 back in December when it first came out, came from guilds that Wadzio had constantly been forming drama with.


He thought he could be an *** to everyone because Spectral/Bloodlust was a big-bad guild that could KOS you.


The funny part is the people Wadzio displaced into Essence were some of the first to get Rank 9 and pummel him and subsequent guilds that take him in.


Elayne attracted well geared players through leadership and competitive TW/PvP. But what made it easier was the fact that Wadzio was hated by a large portion of the server when the balance of power could be tipped either way.


The choice between Essence or Kamisama was really decided by who invited who first.

Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't it Kamisama officers/members who thought they were really pro and decided to make alts that went no where while Essence members gears weren't really there yet but they farmed better/higher refined armor than Kami. By the time Kami stopped playing on their alts and realized how much time went by and how they ****ed their own guild over it was too late bc Spectral semi cash shopped their way up the ladder and slowly took their land away. It wasn't who was being recruited but the fact that a lot of stupid members in Kami went to make alts only to realize taking the map the second time won't be such a walk in the park.

edit: Also since it was obvious Kami was losing and everyone loves salary leech, a lot of people found Ess more appealing.

FlashSteps - Lost City wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't it Kamisama officers/members who thought they were really pro and decided to make alts that went no where while Essence members gears weren't really there yet but they farmed better/higher refined armor than Kami. By the time Kami stopped playing on their alts and realized how much time went by and how they ****ed their own guild over it was too late bc Spectral semi cash shopped their way up the ladder and slowly took their land away. It wasn't who was being recruited but the fact that a lot of stupid members in Kami went to make alts only to realize taking the map the second time won't be such a walk in the park.

edit: Also since it was obvious Kami was losing and everyone loves salary leech, a lot of people found Ess more appealing.

Who didn't make alts?

I mean.. I really doubt there's 1 person in the server without alts.. lol

People that farmed kept farming but most of "officers/members" you refer.. Quit as many of Spectral/other people quit. Also people get bored of catching up with cash shopers..

Lets be far honest, what you do in game other than farm or "pvp"(Theres no good pvp nowadays). Lots of people got bored and found better games. LLama and haiz in a guild in r1ft and envy/pnut play casual LoL games. Show/xtacy/Takaru/midnight play LoL too.

Its okay, theres more than one game out there.

KedgeSniper - Lost City wrote: »

Who didn't make alts?

I mean.. I really doubt there's 1 person in the server without alts.. lol

People that farmed kept farming but most of "officers/members" you refer.. Quit as many of Spectral/other people quit. Also people get bored of catching up with cash shopers..

Lets be far honest, what you do in game other than farm or "pvp"(Theres no good pvp nowadays). Lots of people got bored and found better games. LLama and haiz in a guild in r1ft and envy/pnut play casual LoL games. Show/xtacy/Takaru/midnight play LoL too.

Its okay, theres more than one game out there.

You kinda miss my point but okay let me say it more directly. Kami focused so much time on alts that it ****ed up their guild (that was the main point) and no it wasn't due to just quitting.

The defensive "who didn't make alts?" doesn't really work since that wasn't even my point. Making alts =/= auto lose game, but turning alts into full time game play for months on end = opponents getting better gears and beating u eventually.

I do agree though that after losing TW/farming alts/thinking their main didn't need any improvement did make them want to quit game and go play something else.

FlashSteps - Lost City wrote: »

You kinda miss my point but okay let me say it more directly. Kami focused so much time on alts that it ****ed up their guild (that was the main point) and no it wasn't due to just quitting.

The defensive "who didn't make alts?" doesn't really work since that wasn't even my point. Making alts =/= auto lose game, but turning alts into full time game play for months on end =/= opponents getting better gears and beating u eventually.

I do agree though that after losing TW/farming alts/thinking their main didn't need any improvement did make them want to quit game and go play something else.

Who are this officers though or members you can refer too.. lol

I mean Midnight had nv bow.. Devine had nv pieces, sezz had nv pieces, pepper had nv pieces, sobbie had nv pieces, god evil had nv pieces, Haiz farm rank8, ArchEvil had nv pieces, Kuyaa had nv pieces... Do i have to keep going?

I answer your question/fact.

People that used to farm.. kept farming most of their gear...

Kamisama "alts" had nothing to do with this. Mostly alot of people got bored with the game.. Like show had 1st cast nv bow but got bored and quit. Same as other people.

Actually only person that i know officer/cq core that had lv several alts is Luis/pandalord/calender/Thinker~ w.e you know him of.. But still his psy has rank9 gear ? and its farm


Since i dont wanna make another post..

Why do you really compare ehee with 2 ep healing.. while elayne had the same kind of party lol

Elayne had his personal buffers/healers.

Like i said.. Was ehee one of the factors for spectral comeback when they were losing every other week against kamisama. Yes. So i do consider him a factor.. and same as i said about llama. You dont like my pick of mage .. to bad?

People that stayed or kept playing alts for long time .. was maybe rose/llama/lyssic/S when they made psy/sins.. I remember they were in Vent doing bh and cube. But for the most part.. Alot of them were farming nirvana..

KedgeSniper - Lost City wrote: »

Who are this officers though or members you can refer too.. lol

I mean Midnight had nv bow.. Devine had nv pieces, sezz had nv pieces, pepper had nv pieces, sobbie had nv pieces, god evil had nv pieces, Haiz farm rank8, ArchEvil had nv pieces, Kuyaa had nv pieces... Do i have to keep going?

I answer your question/fact.

People that used to farm.. kept farming most of their gear...

Kamisama "alts" had nothing to do with this. Mostly alot of people got bored with the game.. Like show had 1st cast nv bow but got bored and quit. Same as other people.

Actually only person that i know officer/cq core that had lv several alts is Luis/pandalord/calender/Thinker~ w.e you know him of.. But still his psy has rank9 gear ? and its farm


Since i dont wanna make another post..

Why do you really compare ehee with 2 ep healing.. while elayne had the same kind of party lol

Elayne had his personal buffers/healers.

Like i said.. Was ehee one of the factors for spectral comeback when they were losing every other week against kamisama. Yes. So i do consider him a factor.. and same as i said about llama. You dont like my pick of mage .. to bad?

People that stayed or kept playing alts for long time .. was maybe rose/llama/lyssic/S when they made psy/sins.. I remember they were in Vent doing bh and cube. But for the most part.. Alot of them were farming nirvana..

You're kinda right with Elayne = Ehee in skills. The only reason why I said Elayne was so-so and Ehee was just all gear is bc Ehee doesn't PvP outside much so it's base off entirely from TW while Elayne had PvP in west or wherever outside TW many times and participated in TW. Why does that matter? BC PvP exists outside TW as well and lacking skills/experience outside does matter in comparison when we talk about skills.

Also, you have your opinion and you're entitled to it but it was just base off observation/experience with LLama in PvP on how I came up with my list of from great to bad mages.

Should stop talking about nothing, you two. >.>