Fist/Claw Choice

X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver
X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver Posts: 45 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Blademaster
What is the best fist/claw choice for endgame?


so which is better: tt100, regicide, or g15, and why

tt100: crit+4%, and automatically 2 socket
g13: more base attack than tt100 and decrease max hp proc
g15: i *might* get good addons but most likely i'll just get one -0.05 max,making me only 3.33 base with the tome

and to be clear, i mean in pk, preferably 1v1. i realize that in pve i would spark to 5aps and do a lot more with g15, but with wind shield i could only hit 4 aps as well. alternatively, i could demon cyclone heel and then reach 5 aps briefly, but i dont know if that'd be worth it - some say that cyclone heel no longer is.

if im missing any factors or if anyone has input i'd appreciate it. b:thanks
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  • Zolex - Lost City
    Zolex - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    In your case I would choose the g13 bcause the -int/higher damage than Striking Dragon and reduce max HP. But this is just my idea, depends from your walett too...
  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    By G13 you talk about Deicides, right? If so, you are wrong. TT100 has a way better damage output. If unrefined it's already obvious, but if high refined, TT100 easily outdamages Deicides.

    I'd get all of them, Deicides to farm, TT100 when you can afford them. Then try to make some decent claws out of your Decides.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »
    By G13 you talk about Deicides, right?

    In general, G13 means first cast Nirvana.
  • ArmaniEx - Harshlands
    ArmaniEx - Harshlands Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    at +12 nirvana gives more atk than hh100 to ur base dmge...but the dmge increase is not huge. I own windpours because I bought raptures at 1mil each lol. They are about the same thing..I love my sharptooth for pvp and its useful for pve as well, others like the crit from the hh100

    Its just player choice the difference is rather small.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    G15 are your hardest hitters and would combine well with Windshield in pve for a 4.0 attack at about +15% dmg higher than anything else and can have adds like +20 attack levels and increased crit rate, however any of the other options can hit 5.0 with windshield making up the weapon dmg difference and building chi faster. So greater dph at 4.0 with G15 or greater dps at 5.0 with anything else.

    I'd say G13 Regicides for pvp. TT100 and Regicide start with the same base dmg but Regicides refine better while TT100 needs its mods to keep on par (+max dmg and 4% crit). Actually, even Deicides out refine TT100. In pvp fighting an opponent with 10% less hp would prolly be the bigger benifit, as well as an extra 320 unbuffed hp for yourself. They would charm tick after recieving 45% dmg instead of 50% then you could kill them by dealing only 90% the damage, making jumping the charm more possible.
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  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I've looked at them both in PW calculator, at +12 2 drakeflames TT100 does more DPS than G13 thanks to the 4% crit (I calculate 1% crit as 1% more damage for dps purposes.) But yeah the added hp and the reduce hp proc are really nice to have on the G13s. Plus G13 does more damage per hit, and you won't have to worry about "lucky crits" to get your enemy down, I'd say go with G13.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    soul infect proc + 5.0 unsparked = 30% more DPS on a pvp target/pve solo target

    <3 deicides, not the best claws but untill they hit +12 they're the best bang for your buck coin per point
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  • Leolin - Dreamweaver
    Leolin - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I dont understand the continued use of G13 for deicide, since first cast nirvana and tt100 are both g13 -.-
  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    G13 is the widely used term for first cast nirvana weapons. In this case we are referring to Regicides/Windpour.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    soul infect proc + 5.0 unsparked = 30% more DPS on a pvp target/pve solo target

    <3 deicides, not the best claws but untill they hit +12 they're the best bang for your buck coin per point

    Josh and I farm together in game and while I've been busy getting my 240 mil in raps for G13 and working on getting my chicken stones he's working on +11ing his Deicides. Ultimately, my Regicides will be better... someday... slightly. But as long as his Deicides have one level more refine they will out DD my Regicides, lol. In otherwords +10 Regicides don't hit as hard as +11 Deicides. +11 Regicides don't hit as hard as +12 Deicides.
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  • X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver
    X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    is g15 with one -0.05 and demon cyclone heel good in pvp? it'd get me to 5aps and i'd have the highest dph fist
    if not i'll go regicide
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    is g15 with one -0.05 and demon cyclone heel good in pvp? it'd get me to 5aps and i'd have the highest dph fist
    if not i'll go regicide

    3.33 aps gains -.05 from anything less than a 25% boost.
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  • X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver
    X_Hidan_X - Dreamweaver Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    regicide it is then.
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  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I've been running the math, the sparked dps gained comparing a maxed out G15 to a G13 is not THAT much higher, and the dps non sparked is actually a little less. So its really, do you want 4 aps common, or do you want to have massive spike damage with BoT and such?

    Keep in mind thats with regular stats. If you can get +20 attack level then G15 is WAY better, and I'd say blood vengeance is worth it too. Anything else is a tossup.

    I just got my G15s yesterday with int and revenge, The spike damage on them is INCREDIBLE! But I'm not sure how I like being 3.33 common, I build chi a lot slower. But man if I get a lucky string of crits people drop so fast..

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