Weapon Procs

Burnout - Harshlands
Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Archer
Does any archer know the approximate proc rates of the basic purge and advanced purge on bows? Does it proc during barrage? Does the proc take place after the damage is applied or before the damage is applied?



Thanks in advance for any info posted.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Ok as far as I know from snooping around the average proc on a bow like Heaven shatterer is 5%. Does anyone have any estimates on advanced purge?
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  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    As far as i know.. Regular is around 10-15% and Advance around 20%.

    Its really luck for the most part <<. Some days you proc every shoot or 3 in a row.. and sometimes you dont proc in 102350250 shoots.


    Proc works on any skill. Including barrage. I had a video of TW where i zhen for like 1 min on a barb. He literally got debuff twice and people around. (Its funny You can see him buffing at max range of my barrage and still casting it.)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/kedge?feature=mhee#p/u/1/M5QGHk2ICL0
    2:10 Dont have to watch the rest.

    About the damage.. I believe purge goes first n then damage, But im not sure <<

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Normal proc is indeed around 5% and Blackhole is only slightly higher around 6%.

    All attacks can trigger purge, when doing AOEs the purge can happen on any target independently of other targets.

    I believe the purge occurs after the damage is applied but im only like 60% sure about that. I know shock applies its debuff after damage and that tooth applies its debuff before damage.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Blackhole is only 6%? From seeing R9 archers in action I thought it would be at 10-20% b:shocked
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Blackhole is only 6%? From seeing R9 archers in action I thought it would be at 10-20% b:shocked

    The effect looks cooler so you kinda notice it more. In practice though it doesn't feel that much different than soul shatter.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I think you all have noticed that foundation of the world (the nirvana wand) offers a -6% and a -10% channelling option? If the probabilities for soul shatter and spirit blackhole are scaled similarly, they might work out to something like 4.5% and 7.5%. This would be not too far from the experimentally derived numbers that Asterelle found. (Though for all I know 4% and 5% are accurate.)
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Blackhole is only 6%? From seeing R9 archers in action I thought it would be at 10-20% b:shocked

    As far as i am concerned its 5% and 8%.
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  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    im pretty sure its purge first then damage sorta like how stun arrow always stuns first then deals the damage
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tested on a wiz.. an arrow that purged did 400 damage while the next arrow did 1500 damage. Purge is definitely after damage.
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  • Agatio - Harshlands
    Agatio - Harshlands Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    All attacks can trigger purge, when doing AOEs the purge can happen on any target independently of other targets.
    Not true, weapon's procs doesn't work with skills that have effect on target (for example stunning arrow or thunder shock). Sacr. strike and rip are the exceptions.
  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Agatio - Harshlands wrote: »
    Not true, weapon's procs doesn't work with skills that have effect on target (for example stunning arrow or thunder shock). Sacr. strike and rip are the exceptions.

    You're wrong. They proc independently of any skill. They can proc with the skill.

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