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Nikkas - Heavens Tear
Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Archer
atm im like this

with fists: http://pwcalc.com/29e4ff4a26dfbe2f

with bow: http://pwcalc.com/4bc045dd4bbfc8de


kinda needed suggestions on where to go from here (dont have lots and lots of coins lets say something around 70M on a start(could get more on a long run). I mostly do nirvana/ff/tt.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    These are just my opinions. You are of course entitled to disagree.

    - It seems your HP is too low. 5.2k is not a lot, and I would recommend getting over 6k.

    - Your helm is not very good. Warsoul of Earth is the default one. I use Lunar Helm mainly b/c it is cheaper. However, it has slightly less HP at +4 refine and requires more Str to wear (146).

    - Replace Band from Heaven's Jail with Seal of Eternal Solitude. A poor version of Seal of Eternal Solitude would be the Attendance Ring.


    Here's a build with my above two changes: http://pwcalc.com/bfa777255c5727be . HP is 5.6k. The 3 unstatted points are intentional in case you wanted to do some slight adjustment.

    Here's the build with the Lunar Helm instead: http://pwcalc.com/77fd7db9e92635f5 . HP is 5.5k, and your dex is less. However, it's a lot cheaper than Warsoul of Earth.

    The helm and ring are within your budget. Tasteless as you may find it, you an drop 50 points of Dex and put it into Vit, to get 6k HP.

    EDIT: TT100 fists are worth working toward, if you do a lot of Nirvana. Your damage will increase significantly. Also, this will free up space since you need one less source of -0.05 interval. For example, you could then wear Necklace of Giant Strength and Guard of Thundershock. Get a Soul Relic (I heard they are cheap on HT) and 30 Tokens of Best Luck. Link: http://pwcalc.com/203c2fd63fb5593e
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Don't get why you use str equipment with your bow.

    http://pwcalc.com/b0b63fc51f08c2cf

    The lunar ring on my server have crashed to just 20m due to repeated rank sales, so it's well within your budget. The accuracy and defence bonuses help in PvP, assuming that you do PK/TW/Tourny
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Don't get why you use str equipment with your bow.

    http://pwcalc.com/b0b63fc51f08c2cf

    The lunar ring on my server have crashed to just 20m due to repeated rank sales, so it's well within your budget. The accuracy and defence bonuses help in PvP, assuming that you do PK/TW/Tourny

    i have str tome cause i need it to be able to get the str to use the GV
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    GV only requires 135 str, not 15x that you have.
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    GV only requires 135 str, not 15x that you have.

    if u try to equip the GV on that build that u suggested it doest have enough for it
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    These are just my opinions. You are of course entitled to disagree.

    - It seems your HP is too low. 5.2k is not a lot, and I would recommend getting over 6k.

    - Your helm is not very good. Warsoul of Earth is the default one. I use Lunar Helm mainly b/c it is cheaper. However, it has slightly less HP at +4 refine and requires more Str to wear (146).

    - Replace Band from Heaven's Jail with Seal of Eternal Solitude. A poor version of Seal of Eternal Solitude would be the Attendance Ring.


    Here's a build with my above two changes: http://pwcalc.com/bfa777255c5727be . HP is 5.6k. The 3 unstatted points are intentional in case you wanted to do some slight adjustment.

    Here's the build with the Lunar Helm instead: http://pwcalc.com/77fd7db9e92635f5 . HP is 5.5k, and your dex is less. However, it's a lot cheaper than Warsoul of Earth.

    The helm and ring are within your budget. Tasteless as you may find it, you an drop 50 points of Dex and put it into Vit, to get 6k HP.

    EDIT: TT100 fists are worth working toward, if you do a lot of Nirvana. Your damage will increase significantly. Also, this will free up space since you need one less source of -0.05 interval. For example, you could then wear Necklace of Giant Strength and Guard of Thundershock. Get a Soul Relic (I heard they are cheap on HT) and 30 Tokens of Best Luck. Link: http://pwcalc.com/203c2fd63fb5593e

    from what i been reading about that ring and how to get it since i dont see anyone selling it i might go with the sign of frost chaos, but that one would give more hp indeed
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    if u try to equip the GV on that build that u suggested it doest have enough for it

    That was a bow build. Slap on that str tome for fists. My question was, why are you equipping a str tome with your bow?
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    That was a bow build. Slap on that str tome for fists. My question was, why are you equipping a str tome with your bow?

    Swapping multiple gears prior to swapping weapons is a bit annoying. I can see why she would keep the Str tome equipped, even when she doesn't need it.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Swapping multiple gears prior to swapping weapons is a bit annoying. I can see why she would keep the Str tome equipped, even when she doesn't need it.

    Fair point I suppose. With my PvE tome I have 136 str points, but I swap to +15 dex when I go PK/TW/Tourny. The only sad thing is I can't blade people to death easily anymore b:cry
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    what about this:
    http://pwcalc.com/28a433f2d94dc8b3
    or
    http://pwcalc.com/6422cf3ab6ece237

    this changes should be around 70M~
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Don't use the FF85 ring. Band from Heaven's Jail is much better. Otherwise, that works.


    Note: I'd suggest not buying this stuff yet. Do some merchanting this month. Near the end of the month, invest your 70m in Rep Badges. You will need to make alts to carry the excess badges. Sell them for a markup next month. *Then* go buy your stuff.
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    went this way

    http://pwcalc.com/0d3b414e00e092a5


    ty for all help
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nice =)

    TT100 fists next!
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    a little more help, from this builds

    fists: http://pwcalc.com/0d3b414e00e092a5

    bow: http://pwcalc.com/dabfa7cf338f84fa

    so was thinking of putting the TT100 fists, have all except the tokens (150M)
    so got around ~80M to spend..

    suggestions?
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    atm like this http://pwcalc.com/92ceff97ffd9a43c


    anyone can give any suggestions on what do acquire/change to get more defence, so i dont die so easy, should i refine more and put more hp shards? change ornaments?
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/985d8fe917b1bed3

    If you don't like the fact that 8 points got restatted out of Dex to put into Str, you can use Sky Demon's Pearl instead.
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    yeah kinda dont want to take even more dex from the archer...


    is it real worth to change it just for an extra 100~300 of def? its 100~300 that biggest diference, cause i was checking at the calc and would lose crit/evasion to gain 100~200 of def + 500hp
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    for 500 hp as well as 200 def, definitely.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Why are you using tt100 fists anyway? o.O

    Those ornaments could be going to better use rather than pumping strength if you used deicides or gv
    http://pwcalc.com/66e4c920c271f373 <- just a quick example
    I'd go with deicide for the sake of being economical, because with GV another -int piece would be required to be 5.0

    Would lose crit and damage, those tt100 fists are nice but imho a bit impractical for us archers. Also you probably really don't want to be doing too much damage if you are a squishy squish.

    But yes whatever you do end up with, definitely refine those ornaments
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    ty all
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    is it real worth to change it just for an extra 100~300 of def? its 100~300 that biggest diference, cause i was checking at the calc and would lose crit/evasion to gain 100~200 of def + 500hp

    You could always try it without really spending much and without losing Dex. Get Sky Demon's Pearl with 8 Str (less than 1m) and Guard of Thundershock. If you don't have Guard of Thundershock, you can find another belt that gives good defense, such as Demon Slaughter Belt.

    This requires no dex restat, less than 2m, and you can try it out easily.
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why are you using tt100 fists anyway? o.O

    TT100 Fists do a lot more damage than GV and/or Deicide. While she does sacrifice some dex to get it, she mentioned her primary activities are FF and Nirvana. At level 100, FF is a joke, and Nirvana would obviously benefit more from TT100 than Deicide.
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    here we go again :P


    this atm: http://pwcalc.com/172925a2ecf4b941

    should i go with this: http://pwcalc.com/4b07d92041332b18

    or this: http://pwcalc.com/e53fc9d5c16f48ed

    or suggest something pls

    have a budget around 100M


    ty for all suggestions/help b:pleased
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    - 3rd socket in the shoes.

    - 4th socket in the cape.

    - I'd suggest buying a new Waroul of Earth that has more sockets (usually cheaper than adding your own 3rd socket).


    How did you get Energetic Robe: Frost, anyways?
  • Nikkas - Heavens Tear
    Nikkas - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    my bad its a lunar one, fixed the links

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