Add Perfect Iron Hammers As DQ Points Reward

heywood411
heywood411 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2011 in General Discussion
Chest of coins is an item you get from supply stash at level 50 that you also need the hammer to open. So right there is two hammers. The hammers is 5 gold which turned to coins is worth way more then the coin chest that gives 1 mil. They recently changed it so if you sell the chest you get 500 dq points so in other words even pwi staff realized it is worthless in game to open. I think that you should be able to purchase a hammer using dq points. I dont care about the price itself set it to even say 10k points or 15k it at least gives more reason to grind dqs. at 10k people would start grinding dqs like mad if they knew the reward was 1 million coins plus what you make off of grinding the dqs. Just a suggestion and opinion. Make the chest worth something in game as that's what they were meant for.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Um, that's just break the game.

    10,000 DPs comes to 286 DQs.

    Those 286 DQs will NPC for 1,063,920 coins.

    Now you're asking them to add an item that would make you able to get 1,000,000 more?

    That'd basically be asking them to double the NPC value of DQs. Which just won't happen.

    And if you set it so that the 1,000,000 coins would be equal to the 20% we lost, then you'd be looking at a cost of about 48,000 DPs.
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  • Store_Guy - Archosaur
    Store_Guy - Archosaur Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    not everyone is level 100 and can grind dq points worth 30 points each chest you get at level 50 in the level 50 stash tell me a level 50 can get 10k points out of less than 300 dq items
  • Store_Guy - Archosaur
    Store_Guy - Archosaur Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    also even on the 25 points per dq items (oblivion soup, ect) 286 gives you barely 7k points which for some people is days of grinding on top of that pwi gives you the chest at level 50 maybe it would be nice for them to have something to work for and achieve. really in pwi what is 1 million coins lol not much really. Pwi are the ones who created the chest that they put into a stash you need to use a hammer for as well. im just saying they need to do something to make these hammers accessible in someway to none cash players. and i did not say they HAD TO set it at 10k points it was a random number. An your math would only work if you were grinding dqs with 30 dq points per item. Theres more than just high level people in the game who might like to access and use the chests, stashes, ect that pwi puts in a free to play game for people who are level 50 as the chests are for people at that level not level 100. And i repeat what is 1 million coins in game. Cant buy really anything for that so tell me how you are going to break a game with that? might get people out grinding more often instead of just power leveling which has become what this game seems to be about. Thats whats breaking this game. Not by rewarding people who actually are willing to spend hours/days/weeks for some who are willing to actually willing to grind
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    sure. the price of a hammer in DQ points should be, lessee... about 7497 points. (5 million / 667; compare the jolly jones quest that lets you buy DQ points for coin.)

    ...whoops, no, that would turn the DQ price cap into a price floor and solidly nail the price of DQ points down. that wouldn't be good. i'll have to re-think this some... i need more coffee before i work this math out, i think.

    awright, a mystical soul NPCs for 3720 coin and gives 35 DQ points. that'd come out to 47043 DQ points per hammer; much more like it.

    then again, i'm doing all of this with an assumed one million coin gold price... eh, wtf, that much of a drop wouldn't hurt us.

    edit, because Olba ninja'd me; what about we make it an even 50k DPs for a hammer, then? at what point would we start risking hyperinflation due to hammers being too cheap in DQ points?
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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Unless they completely remove Chest of Coins from the game, then just no. Do you know how many of those things there are out there? They don't just come from your supply stash. They drop in Rebirth, and I have seen catshops with stacks of 100+ leftover probably from Cube days. Giving away Hammers for Dragon Points would just flood the economy with more free coin... and as was previously pointed out, would make DQs worth way more than they ever were, which negates the whole price cut entirely.

    They already made Chest of Coins worth something. NPC it for 500 Dragon Points. Or you can sell it to others that want those Dragon Points. I personally think that is a pretty sweet deal, and I get excited now when I get them as a drop in Rebirth.

    And with the timed weapons now, the supply stash is fail anyway. Do like the rest of us and NPC it at level 50.
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  • Store_Guy - Archosaur
    Store_Guy - Archosaur Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Hell for all I care they could just put hammers in the event boutique as it would still give something to work for plus u can get other stuff in there with the left over event gold. Doesn't really matter how they make it accessible just that it should be in some way without cash shopping
  • Tadpole_ - Archosaur
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I find this to be an excellent idea. I know some of you are thinking "Stashbox is worthless anyways" and "Wouldn't be worth it for only a mil", or devs "that's 5 dollars we'd be missing out on". Well, be that as it may people need to realize that there are still some folk who would like to open the stash or at least have the option to, if they wanted. I agree that the coin box is a little redundant. If hammers were in DQ shop for 50k, at that level, players would have to decide..."Event card or Perfect hammer". A very tough decision for those who worked that hard for it and now can either open a SEMI-useless stashbox or get event gold and get some fashion, charms, mounts, or whatever. Most, I would imagine, at that point would want the gold and maybe, possibly will just buy 500 zen and charge a hammer, so for the devs... IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE YOU MORE MONEY.

    Point is, what's there to lose? If YOU don't want it, don't get it. Also, as someone pointed out, if someone did choose to open the coin box, for those who chose the hammer for this purpose(I promise it wouldn't be many), would it even impact the economy in the slightest bit??? NO! So what's the harm in implementing this. I hope a mod sees this post and send it up the ladder(Shelly, this means you. I know you're out there and active in here. Good job.). Ok now that that's over, I'm going to drink some more coffee.

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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur wrote: »
    I find this to be an excellent idea. I know some of you are thinking "Stashbox is worthless anyways" and "Wouldn't be worth it for only a mil", or devs "that's 5 dollars we'd be missing out on". Well, be that as it may people need to realize that there are still some folk who would like to open the stash or at least have the option to, if they wanted. I agree that the coin box is a little redundant. If hammers were in DQ shop for 50k, at that level, players would have to decide..."Event card or Perfect hammer". A very tough decision for those who worked that hard for it and now can either open a SEMI-useless stashbox or get event gold and get some fashion, charms, mounts, or whatever. Most, I would imagine, at that point would want the gold and maybe, possibly will just buy 500 zen and charge a hammer, so for the devs... IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE YOU MORE MONEY.

    Point is, what's there to lose? If YOU don't want it, don't get it. Also, as someone pointed out, if someone did choose to open the coin box, for those who chose the hammer for this purpose(I promise it wouldn't be many), would it even impact the economy in the slightest bit??? NO! So what's the harm in implementing this. I hope a mod sees this post and send it up the ladder(Shelly, this means you. I know you're out there and active in here. Good job.). Ok now that that's over, I'm going to drink some more coffee.

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    Do you even KNOW how to get event gold?

    If it's in Event Boutique, you don't have to charge money to get event gold, you farm DQ and sell it to NPC for DR points, then get the card and turn it in to the appropriate NPC for 50 event gold.

    And really... How would this encourage someone to spend $5 USD on something that was completely worthless BEFORE they put a time limit on it?

    There is nothing that they could do, in any way, shape, or form to make the hammer worth $5 USD, unless they give everyone chests with 20 million coins in them that one hammer can open. Then it would be worth the $5 USD to open.
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  • Tadpole_ - Archosaur
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Yes I know how to acquire event gold. I was talking about the event card you can get from the DQ rewards for 50k DP. As I said, most would go for the Event card instead of the hammer if it were on the DQ rewards page, BUT some people(SOME) would want to open lvl 50-75 supply stash regardless of the lvl50 weapon being timed, just to open them. What I meant by saying it may encourage some to pay for the hammer was if at first they wanted the hammer and then worked that hard to get the 50k DPs, but then realized that the event gold would be more beneficial to them, they may still want to get the hammer for the supply stash, but rather than grinding another 50k DP they may instead just buy the hammer. I'm not saying this is a certainty, I'm just saying it's not too far out there as a possibility. NOW, putting the hammer in the event boutique would be the best option by far, but seeing as it would benefit F2P players(thus negating the possibility of making any profit from hammers) the most, I doubt they would implement this.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yes I know how to acquire event gold. I was talking about the event card you can get from the DQ rewards for 50k DP. As I said, most would go for the Event card instead of the hammer if it were on the DQ rewards page, BUT some people(SOME) would want to open lvl 50-75 supply stash regardless of the lvl50 weapon being timed, just to open them. What I meant by saying it may encourage some to pay for the hammer was if at first they wanted the hammer and then worked that hard to get the 50k DPs, but then realized that the event gold would be more beneficial to them, they may still want to get the hammer for the supply stash, but rather than grinding another 50k DP they may instead just buy the hammer. I'm not saying this is a certainty, I'm just saying it's not too far out there as a possibility. NOW, putting the hammer in the event boutique would be the best option by far, but seeing as it would benefit F2P players(thus negating the possibility of making any profit from hammers) the most, I doubt they would implement this.

    Ah.

    Except, a hammer isn't worth 50 event gold. >_>
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  • Tadpole_ - Archosaur
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I completely agree with you, that's why maybe(because everything in event boutique is more expensive) 10 event gold maybe even 15 just for the balance. Then you still have 35-40 left over for whatever you wanted.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tadpole_ - Archosaur wrote: »
    I completely agree with you, that's why maybe(because everything in event boutique is more expensive) 10 event gold maybe even 15 just for the balance. Then you still have 35-40 left over for whatever you wanted.

    And in that case, you wouldn't have to put any RL money into the game to get the hammer in the first place...

    Though, the hammer still isn't worth 15 or 10 event gold either...
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  • Miiself - Dreamweaver
    Miiself - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    To bring the value of the hammer in line with its cost, it should have a 5 use or 5 day limit (whichever comes first)

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