Seeker and pvp

Ecatomb - Harshlands
Ecatomb - Harshlands Posts: 139 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Seeker
How is pvp with seeker at end game?

Bm and barb should be easier to kill with the magical atk of seeker?
Does he die fast from caster? Can he kill them fast too?
How is-it vs sin? They can't kill seeker fast?

Ty for answer.
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  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    BM's destroy seekers.
    Can die pretty fast from a wiz and psy.
    Seekers can kill fast. It really depends how fast the seeker can get the eye thing on you or something.
    Sins kill all lol.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ^^lol
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  • So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide
    So_Sick_Er - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BM's destroy seekers.
    Can die pretty fast from a wiz and psy.
    Seekers can kill fast. It really depends how fast the seeker can get the eye thing on you or something.
    Sins kill all lol.

    ur wrong in so many ways friend.
    i m lvl 101 with rank 8 and some TT99 and no bm has ever killed me...but tht maybe cuz my main used to be a main n i know all bt bms....n no they dont die fast from a wiz or psy with equal lvl gears...in fact, i do pretty good against both of em..only prob r rank 9 wiz n psychics...n sins..we destroy sins..doesn't matter if its a 5 aps sin or a rank 9...if u know how to play a seeker well, then u will destroy sins.
  • Randamu - Harshlands
    Randamu - Harshlands Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ^ What he said. I never lost against a BM in 1vs1 either and I doubt that's gonna change at higher level. Same goes for Sins. The only Sins that kill me at the moment are 100+ while I am 92. With similar gear BM's and Sins are easy to deal with.

    Rank9 vs anything not Rank9 is always a problem so I won't really go into that... The only class I find hard to kill when they are prepared for 1vs1 are Clerics. But of course they are easy kills in mass pvp and u manage to catch them off-guard. When they are prepared I often have a hard time getting past their heals and plume shield because they hit quite hard while I'm doing so little damage with plume shield absorbing it.
  • SneakyJmk - Sanctuary
    SneakyJmk - Sanctuary Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BM's destroy seekers.
    Can die pretty fast from a wiz and psy.
    Seekers can kill fast. It really depends how fast the seeker can get the eye thing on you or something.
    Sins kill all lol.

    LOL!! BM dont destroy seekers... I was killing lvl 100 bm's already when i was lvl 80b:bye
  • Randamu - Harshlands
    Randamu - Harshlands Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    BM's should really get off their high horse anyway... Not generalizing but so often I run into BM's who seem to think they are gods or something.

    Also to add to my previous post where I said Sins are easy to deal with I have to mention it's very situational... If a 4/5 aps sin manages to keep you stunned for a while and then forces you to tank demon spark you're pretty much done with >.> But as long as you keep kiting them they aren't as hard and impossible to beat as they make them out to be. Oh and canceling/glitching voidstep is an awesome way to get away from Sins (and BM's but meh they will be dead before you need to).
  • Ecatomb - Harshlands
    Ecatomb - Harshlands Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Thank you for answer. I think I could have fun playing seeker ;)
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  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    my seekers at 96 and kinda **** gear for his lvl (and will be untill i get to 100). BMs are probly the easiest class imo. im having a harder time with wizes becasue they have good def on both sides. the seekers biggest weakness by far is their lack of anti stun. if your demon (lol @ demon seeker) your just screwed. if your sage, unfetter really doesnt last long enough to get **** done.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    For BMs what I do when unfetter is down is jump. Like I did when I played a archer long time ago. You can catch the window in bewteen stuns and get out of range UPWARDS b:chuckle


    But for most part an egually gear BM had better have impeccable timing with stunlocks, and know quite a bit about CCing skills before just "destroying" seekers. A seeker that knows his skills well, and know how to use them can own a BM.
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  • CelesKira - Archosaur
    CelesKira - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    When my seeker was level 68 I tried pk mode for the first time.
    I got attacked by a sin.. And I owned him.
    I checked his gear later on to find out he was level 83+. b:chuckle

    I'm sure it was most likely a coincidence.. But I just had to say it xD
  • Evinerre - Lost City
    Evinerre - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The only way any seeker should ever die to a BM/barb is if they sit on their butt and not move. Hello you have long range skills, why the hell would you stay up close and attacking? If you can avoid damage why not? Gemini can 1 shot most arcanes, even at lvl 60, with the channel buff its really not hard. We can shoot a nixes bleed right back at the veno, who can't survive their nix themselves.

    It's really like using a psychic, you have to have a bit of brains to use it.
  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    CelesKira - Archosaur wrote: »
    When my seeker was level 68 I tried pk mode for the first time.
    I got attacked by a sin.. And I owned him.
    I checked his gear later on to find out he was level 83+. b:chuckle

    I'm sure it was most likely a coincidence.. But I just had to say it xD

    Not too hard to believe.. Was doing cube on mine (lvl 75) and a sin tried to kill me, he was even demon sparking and still ticked my charm like 4 times before I finally dropped..


    Coincidence that we met powerleveled sins with no real pvp experience, perhaps.

    .
    Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle
  • CelesKira - Archosaur
    CelesKira - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »

    Coincidence that we met powerleveled sins with no real pvp experience, perhaps.

    .

    Ikr? I don't see the point in plvling if you're gonna be pking.

    The key to winning against other players is knowing your class.
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    CelesKira - Archosaur wrote: »
    Ikr? I don't see the point in plvling if you're gonna be pking.

    The key to winning against other players is knowing your class.

    and knowing all other classes as well. you cant just know yours and expect to win.
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  • supertroyman1
    supertroyman1 Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    said it once on pretty much every forum for subjects like this.

    if ur good at ur class ull know how to pk other classes and get ur butt out of bad situations. seeker is good at pk if u know how to fight with one. if u dont ull die.
    think that should be plain and simple
  • Star_Crest - Sanctuary
    Star_Crest - Sanctuary Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Seekers have many abilities and advantages that makes them able to be very effective in PvP.

    The skill Edged Blur is unaffected by Stuns, sleep, and any other status effect that can be cast against it, as long as your enemy is in range of it (with sins, they only have 1 ranged ability anyways) they will take masive damage. Having Sage Edged Blur is a larger advantage because of the range increase.
    This skill also works well to use against BMs because BMs focus on stuns in pvp as a usual strategy and they also lack in long ranged skills.
    Barbs are the only close ranged enemy that is usually a problem for Seekers to fight because of their higher hp making them able to survive even if they are hit full on by Blur. To fight Barbs in pvp, i suggest that Seekers stick to their long ranged magic skills which do more damage to Barbs because they are mainly Heavy Armour users.

    Another useful skill in pvp for Seekers is Voistep for fighting arcane classes and Archers (with the exception of aps fist Archers). This can bring you up close to Wizards and Psychics to deal damage quickly and painlessly because of the added Stun effect.
    (WARNING) -> When fighting Psychics, you will take alot of damage from Soul of Vengeance and Soul of Retaliation when you hit them, so make sure to have your Defence buff on and use strong skills to kill them fast so you take less damage.
  • NeoLilyStar - Sanctuary
    NeoLilyStar - Sanctuary Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Seekers have pretty good defense up against an opponent of similar gear. They can do pretty well for 1vs 1 pvp, but in tw it's a different story. They are very good for crowd control, and support for offense and defense strategy, but not as a seek and destroy a designated target type. This class is more of a bomber type, as a wiz is to a glass cannon, and an archer to a glass machine gun. Gemini slash is basically your only viable nuke attack with no chi cost, range attack, and short cool down. Execute your nuke attack on a cluster of enemies and run the heck out of there. It's best to wait in the back line. Let your squad mates go head to head with the enemies on the front line, and then you provide that surprise atom bomb to take them out after their charm has ticked by your team mates.

    Seeker's other single target skill damage isn't very reliable to actually one shot or kill someone speedily. Vortex is an amazing aoe skill, but if you use vortex, people will try to get away from you and kill you from out of vortex range. It is good to use however if your crystal is under attack. If you ever do faction base quests killing those sand worms and cats out by Sandsong village, take note of how fast it takes for a r8 archer to kill one mob, and how much more effort it takes for a r8 seeker to kill the same mob. Or just look at the scores for the Celestial Tiger event. Their damage output is only outstanding if their target is stationary and always in attacking range, which is not the case for multi pvp.

    Best comb attack to pull:

    With full spark and Soulsever Minuet active - triple spark + Blade Affinity (-% channeling, works instantly, and can use this skill while running, gives 5 chi after using) + Iron Spike (use your remaining spark to activate Spirit Bore status to obtain extra damage from gemini slash) + Gemini Slash into a concentrate group of enemies. After you drop that bomb, use genie skill holy path/AD (if you get stunned) follow by Sage Unfetter+Iron Guard (or tranquillizing orb) to get away from an angry mob that wants you dead if you fail to kill them all. After this, provide support damage and build up spark.

    Another is Sage Unfetter+Iron Guard, Voidstep to a group of enimies (bb'ing cleric/barraging archer/cluster of catas), sage Heartseeker (to freeze) + Edged Blur & cloud eruption at the same time + vortex. This combo is basically a kamikaze to take out as many as you can or cause as much disruption as possible in under 12 seconds if your crystal is under attack.

    Sage Unfetter is an anti stun and speed skill like Maze Step and Elven Alacrity, that HAS NO SPARK CONSUMPTION and shorter cool down! Isn't that awesome!? =D

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