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Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear
Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
edited June 2011 in General Discussion
PWI and frankie especially you is JUST lier.
The reason Why you removed medal was as I said before, you were realizing that is good source of money. And you loosing this money. That's the reason why you removed medals. You are just f... lier. And I'm done with PWI.

Originally Posted by frankieraye View Post
Basically, our developers believe that it had become too easy to acquire Medals through DQ

I regret I even started play this f.... unbalanced **** game.
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  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    b:bye
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  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You're a troll, and your grammar is horrid.
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  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    how crazy is it that a large company is trying to make money...... i thought they pay the employes with cookies, and the shareholders profit is the satisfaction of giving me something to do when i get home from work......
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You're a troll, and your sig is horrid.


    OPs point, despite grammar errors, is valid.
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  • _Nuriko_ - Lost City
    _Nuriko_ - Lost City Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    OP is telling the truth, everything they do is for money gain. Not de-railing to bring this up but this is a valid point. They fixed the skill glitch where it buffs and you cancel without the spark wasting. Wow they fixed something. But they haven't fixed the nix bleed debuff yet. Why? Because pwi make's money off of people buying nix's for that reason, but there is no money being gained from the skill glitch.
    Ahira is a spyb:cryb:cryb:cry
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The OP is right. And the reason they delayed so much the return of medals is because they were trying to milk as much money as possible on useless stuff, aka packs.

    PW knows that the ppl who gets rank9 will most likely stop cashopping after a while because what else is there to buy when u have the best gear already?

    Thus, that's why they delayed so much the return of medals. I sell packs in a catshop, and I noticed the amount of packs being sold just started to plummet. It even stopped to be a worthy business cause they they were taking too long to sell. That's when I realized that most people didn't care about them anymore. So I thought: "next week medals are coming because ppl are finally fed up with packs," and yes, I was right.

    I am glad medals are back, finally I can get my rank9. It just sucks that they cost 20 gold (26m) and when dq was available they costed from 7-10m.

    That just showed plain falsehood and greediness from pwi. Now I believe that pwi asked beijing to remove the medals from dq because they were losing a lot of money, lol.
  • Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear
    Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    You're a troll, and your grammar is horrid.

    Yea my grammar is horrible but still better than yours, if you spoke my language because you don't know any word.
    You know, it doesn't matter on grammar it matter what I said and it's totally true. They are just greedy company and what they told you is JUST lies. I spent almost 3 years with this game. But enough is enough. They just lie in every word.
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You should've known this was coming...
    In PWIwiki..
    it clearly stated.. R9 Medals 25 gold each..
    Way before this sale came out
    102 Celestial Demon Archer (2nd Rebirth 102)
    101 Celestial Sage Blademaster (Rebirth 100)
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  • I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear
    I_Love_Pets - Heavens Tear Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    this being the amusing part. You all know this was coming. Yet still rage over it? Didnt farm the chit to get it when it happened? I sometimes wonder about you all. ijsb:surrender
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  • _Nuriko_ - Lost City
    _Nuriko_ - Lost City Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You should've known this was coming...
    In PWIwiki..
    it clearly stated.. R9 Medals 25 gold each..
    Way before this sale came out

    You do know... this sale isn't the first time they were in cash shop right..?
    Ahira is a spyb:cryb:cryb:cry
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    how crazy is it that a large company is trying to make money...... i thought they pay the employes with cookies, and the shareholders profit is the satisfaction of giving me something to do when i get home from work......

    Were you born under a rock? the company was doing totally fine with the game and "paying their employee's" back before packs, hypers and other pathetic sales, your argument is totally invalid and makes you seem clueless.

    OT, everyone knows frankie was pulling a lie out his japper when he gave not one, but two different excuses about why they removed the R9 tokens, firstly it was "people were exploiting a bug by stacking non-trade-able tokens ontop of trade-able tokens, making them all trade-able, then the other really bad excuse of they were removed due to the devs saying people were obtaining them to easy...

    So what then, instead of people having to farm for DQ, which of course ment some sort of limited source of supplies till people farmed more, now the rich people that were originally going to get rank9, which I'm pretty sure won't give a damn about spending that tiny little bit more compared to what the full R9 is worth anyway, now have it as easy as the credit card access.

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  • __Kikyo__ - Lost City
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    You're a troll, and your grammar is horrid.

    hahah is that u in the sig? hahahah! that is horrid
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Just do what I do.. take up bandwidth without charging anymore, and just be a good friend and make sure anybody thinking of playing a game by pwe in the future knows how they run their games. I totally understand a company making its money, but the way they do it here just rubs me wrong. This game is very different today than it was when I first started.
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  • Narriru - Dreamweaver
    Narriru - Dreamweaver Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    hahah is that u in the sig? hahahah! that is horrid

    "Jonghyun from SHINee!!! YAY." < straight from lizrau's sig.

    You have two eyes right? And why post to make fun of someones sig...? >.>
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Timeline of events:

    1. Due to the patch, the mail system stops working. DQ items and Jones blessings becomes unavailable.

    2. Instead of waiting for stuff like they should have, abusers decided to exploit the glitches and begin selling medals and Jones Blessings. At the same time, Frankie contacts china about how to get the system working.

    3. Frankie sees the exploits and lets people know that is bannable, and to screen shot when it is happening. People QQ about it anyway, and he decides to take the medals out of the dq systems until they can fix the glitch.


    4. Devs fix the mail system. When frankie asks how they can stop the medal exploit, they tell him that he isn't allowed to put the items in the DQ points anyway. Rank 9 is the best gear in the game and should only be obtainable by months/years of farming, merching, saving or by cash shopping.


    5. Frankie announces that they won't be in the DQ system, but announces that he will find a way for them to once again be available. He promises them to be more accessible than just TW which isn't a real way to obtain rank 9.


    6. Frankie RETURNS medals to the shop for the same price they've always been.



    I see no lies here. They have always been the hardest to get item in the entire game. The best most rare item in the game was never meant to be something you could get in a few weeks. They have always been something that only the rich/dedicated could hope to achieve. Hell before rank sales even rank 8 was a dream to many people. When i first started people actually had to farm rank by helping people with their FBS. I remember their being a whole chatroom dedicated to this and having to DENY invitations to my FB19.

    Either you guys have short memories or haven't been playing that long. But it's always been this way. It's nothing new and no one lied.


    Also, Dorset makes awesome sigs. Quit hating.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Timeline of events:

    1. Due to the patch, the mail system stops working. DQ items and Jones blessings becomes unavailable.

    2. Instead of waiting for stuff like they should have, abusers decided to exploit the glitches and begin selling medals and Jones Blessings. At the same time, Frankie contacts china about how to get the system working.

    3. Frankie sees the exploits and lets people know that is bannable, and to screen shot when it is happening. People QQ about it anyway, and he decides to take the medals out of the dq systems until they can fix the glitch.


    4. Devs fix the mail system. When frankie asks how they can stop the medal exploit, they tell him that he isn't allowed to put the items in the DQ points anyway. Rank 9 is the best gear in the game and should only be obtainable by months/years of farming, merching, saving or by cash shopping.


    5. Frankie announces that they won't be in the DQ system, but announces that he will find a way for them to once again be available. He promises them to be more accessible than just TW which isn't a real way to obtain rank 9.


    6. Frankie RETURNS medals to the shop for the same price they've always been.



    I see no lies here. They have always been the hardest to get item in the entire game. The best most rare item in the game was never meant to be something you could get in a few weeks. They have always been something that only the rich/dedicated could hope to achieve. Hell before rank sales even rank 8 was a dream to many people. When i first started people actually had to farm rank by helping people with their FBS. I remember their being a whole chatroom dedicated to this and having to DENY invitations to my FB19.

    Either you guys have short memories or haven't been playing that long. But it's always been this way. It's nothing new and no one lied.


    Also, Dorset makes awesome sigs. Quit hating.

    There are several people on Sanct who had Rank 8 well before badges ever went on sale.

    It rubs me wrong that so many people essentially got R9 for free, and now... It's a couple grand to get the ring, a weapon, and a piece of armor. Might as well get Warsoul while you're at it, and lease yourself a server, and purchase a copy of PW from Wanmei and start your own PServer.

    Lameness is lame.
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  • Rubblemancer - Sanctuary
    Rubblemancer - Sanctuary Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I love how people say things like, "it's all about the money, PWE is just trying to milk us for all we have!"
    Well duh! It's a business in the gaming industry, not a non profit. They don't do anything out of the goodness of their hearts, because that would be business suicide.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    There are several people on Sanct who had Rank 8 well before badges ever went on sale.

    It rubs me wrong that so many people essentially got R9 for free, and now... It's a couple grand to get the ring, a weapon, and a piece of armor. Might as well get Warsoul while you're at it, and lease yourself a server, and purchase a copy of PW from Wanmei and start your own PServer.

    Lameness is lame.




    Yeah a few people had rank 8 before then, but it was much harder to get. I agree that it sucks that rank 9 was so cheap to get beforehand and now it's expensive again. They have effectively priced me out of it, so I'm pretty disappointed myself. But I'm sure they will eventually have sales on it like they do the rep badges now eventually. By then something new and shinier will be out. That's how it works with anything really. Go look at the price of Betamax at it's prime. My point isn't that it doesn't suck, it's that it was to be expected, unsurprising, and not new. Nobody lied. It's also just the way the world works. That was my main point.
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  • Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear
    Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Timeline of events:

    1. Due to the patch, the mail system stops working. DQ items and Jones blessings becomes unavailable.

    2. Instead of waiting for stuff like they should have, abusers decided to exploit the glitches and begin selling medals and Jones Blessings. At the same time, Frankie contacts china about how to get the system working.

    3. Frankie sees the exploits and lets people know that is bannable, and to screen shot when it is happening. People QQ about it anyway, and he decides to take the medals out of the dq systems until they can fix the glitch.


    4. Devs fix the mail system. When frankie asks how they can stop the medal exploit, they tell him that he isn't allowed to put the items in the DQ points anyway. Rank 9 is the best gear in the game and should only be obtainable by months/years of farming, merching, saving or by cash shopping.


    5. Frankie announces that they won't be in the DQ system, but announces that he will find a way for them to once again be available. He promises them to be more accessible than just TW which isn't a real way to obtain rank 9.


    6. Frankie RETURNS medals to the shop for the same price they've always been.



    I see no lies here. They have always been the hardest to get item in the entire game. The best most rare item in the game was never meant to be something you could get in a few weeks. They have always been something that only the rich/dedicated could hope to achieve. Hell before rank sales even rank 8 was a dream to many people. When i first started people actually had to farm rank by helping people with their FBS. I remember their being a whole chatroom dedicated to this and having to DENY invitations to my FB19.

    Either you guys have short memories or haven't been playing that long. But it's always been this way. It's nothing new and no one lied.


    Also, Dorset makes awesome sigs. Quit hating.

    And what about to have same chances for all players? They were able to obtains medals with dq points so lot of people got it. What about these players which they don't have this opportunity anymore? Where is justice for them? Or they have chance to swipe credit cards? This is equal in your eyes?
    Medals were obtainable without real money for every1 what about now?
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    And what about to have same chances for all players? They were able to obtains medals with dq points so lot of people got it. What about these players which they don't have this opportunity anymore? Where is justice for them? Or they have chance to swipe credit cards? This is equal in your eyes?
    Medals were obtainable without real money for every1 what about now?

    They are still obtainable without real money. It's just going to take a heck of a lot longer. Like maybe a year or more if the most you can make is a million a day at higher levels. I didn't say it was fair, I said that its the way the cookies crumbles and that I don't know why people were expecting any differently. Think of the DQ items as a sale, if you didn't spend all your time getting the medals when they were being offered at a crazy discount then that sucks but that doesn't mean that PWI is obligated to continue offering at such a steep discount. They are not being permitted to do so by the developers at any rate. So they had to go back to the old method to offer at least some of the customers a chance to obtain the items. It's does suck, but life's not fair. Besides, it will get devalued eventually. Rank 8 used to be the omfg armor. Now it's not. Thats just the way market and tech markets in particular work. Don't believe me, go look at the price of a betamax when it first came out. Or CD players. It's the same thing.
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  • Kieve - Dreamweaver
    Kieve - Dreamweaver Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I love how people say things like, "it's all about the money, PWE is just trying to milk us for all we have!"
    Well duh! It's a business in the gaming industry, not a non profit. They don't do anything out of the goodness of their hearts, because that would be business suicide.

    READ. LEARN. NOW.

    In a nutshell: MMO games are all about customer service. Yes, they're a business, but "making money" does not equal "treat your customers like wallets."
    I don't even give a damn about the medals, the game died last December when they made your literal endgame available for purchase the first sodding time. I just want this mentality of "oh, they're a business, so whatever they do to earn money is fine b:pleased" to bloody well die.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    READ. LEARN. NOW.

    In a nutshell: MMO games are all about customer service. Yes, they're a business, but "making money" does not equal "treat your customers like wallets."
    I don't even give a damn about the medals, the game died last December when they made your literal endgame available for purchase the first sodding time. I just want this mentality of "oh, they're a business, so whatever they do to earn money is fine b:pleased" to bloody well die.

    ****ing agreed. >_>
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The only thing that bothers me is that there's no reasonable way to get them in game. You shouldn't have to farm/merchant for coins to buy GOLD to obtain something, there should be something you can do in game that doesn't involve the boutique at all. The DQ system was fine imo, and I wish putting medals back in (no glitches, and maybe even at a higher price) was a priority. Then I honestly wouldn't care if they were in the boutique.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The only thing that bothers me is that there's no reasonable way to get them in game. You shouldn't have to farm/merchant for coins to buy GOLD to obtain something, there should be something you can do in game that doesn't involve the boutique at all. The DQ system was fine imo, and I wish putting medals back in (no glitches, and maybe even at a higher price) was a priority. Then I honestly wouldn't care if they were in the boutique.

    Same here. They have effectively priced me out of it. But the developers won't allow them too. Maybe some day if/when there is a rank 10 gear they will.
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  • Yukkuri - Heavens Tear
    Yukkuri - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Like it's already been mentioned, it's the whole "too easy from dq shop" blah blah part. I honestly thought that they were not selling the medals again for the exact same reason, being too easy to aquire. And how I was shown wrong...

    This is a sick kind of contradition. One that mixes quite well with... this.

    Also, I seem to have a slight issue trying to type coherent sentences while sleepy.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The only thing that bothers me is that there's no reasonable way to get them in game. You shouldn't have to farm/merchant for coins to buy GOLD to obtain something, there should be something you can do in game that doesn't involve the boutique at all. The DQ system was fine imo, and I wish putting medals back in (no glitches, and maybe even at a higher price) was a priority. Then I honestly wouldn't care if they were in the boutique.

    Was my thought as well. Put them in for like 500 DQ points a pop. However...

    Do you think that the Devs would ever allow anything like that? >_>
    Same here. They have effectively priced me out of it. But the developers won't allow them too. Maybe some day if/when there is a rank 10 gear they will.

    I'd expect R10 to require the level cap to be raised. But... R7 is 99, R8 is 100, and R9 is 101. So... R10 would be... 102?

    Might make sense, considering how big of a jump it is from 101 to 102. I'm not sure... How comfortable I am considering that R10 would most likely be G17. It also is feasible that R10 would cost around the same as warsoul to purchase, and knowing the devs, and how stupid they are, there will be nothing really that special about R10. A GoF Dagger, a Spirit Blackhole Bow, and still no Fists for BM's.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I'd expect R10 to require the level cap to be raised. But... R7 is 99, R8 is 100, and R9 is 101. So... R10 would be... 102?

    Might make sense, considering how big of a jump it is from 101 to 102. I'm not sure... How comfortable I am considering that R10 would most likely be G17. It also is feasible that R10 would cost around the same as warsoul to purchase, and knowing the devs, and how stupid they are, there will be nothing really that special about R10. A GoF Dagger, a Spirit Blackhole Bow, and still no Fists for BM's.



    Yeah, I'm guessing Rank 10 would be 102. I'd expect it to be better thank rank 9 by enough that people would want it, and that it would break the balance even more. But on the upside, at least rank 9 would be cheaper. Kind of like rank 8 is now.
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  • soldierdad
    soldierdad Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    i agree with VenusArmani
  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    There are currently enough topics discussing the medals through and through, please use one of the existing topics.
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