G15 Berserker Stats - Advanced Info!

OneBeer - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hi Guys
I have had a lot of ppls ask the DMG from my G15 Beserker Fists

What my fists look like
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll82/verticoli/2011-05-1413-30-42.jpg

(Not Barb Buffed)
1) Non Sparked Non Buffed DMG

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3,484 - 3,652
2) Non Sparked Non Buffed Berserker DMG ---- 5,226 - 5,478
3) Sparked Non Buffed DMG

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12,194 - 12,782
4) Sparked Non Buffed Berserker DMG

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13,936 - 14,608

(Barb Buffed)
1) Non Sparked Buffed DMG

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4,181 - 4,382
2) Non Sparked Buffed Berserker DMG

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5,923 - 6,208
3) Sparked Buffed DMG

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12,891 - 13,512
4) Sparked Buffed Berserker DMG

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14,633 - 15,338

I have +5 Decide with Garnet and that DMG sparked is 7,133 - 8,358 (I use to tank if i need to save from Berserker)

Hope you enjoy this information.

OneBeer

Something has got to be wrong...

I know when you first showed us your weapon in the original thread, I was the one who commented on how low the base damage seemed for such awesome fists. b:surrender

I was subsequently assured by your archer friends that Archer fist/claw base damage tends to be low compared to other DDers because of lack of mastery,etc... but that when you triple spark it all evens out. Well if 14 -15K is your top sparked/buffed/berserked damage, let me show you how abysmally low that is for a fist with THOSE kinds of damage stats.

My (current) build:

http://pwcalc.com/dff9dc94a74ad476

With my poor man's deicide refined only +1 higher than your fists, my max damage (sparked) out does your "Berserked" damage by a substantial amount. And without Berserk procing, there is no comparison.

Now either your figures above are wrong, or I've now come to the firm conclusion that fists and claws are absolutely wasted on Archers.

Your Crit rate is really your only saving grace !

Actually, at very high refines, even +1 makes a bid difference. Reduces your Decides to +10 makes the damage a little lower than his buffed Zerk damage.

Also, if he's taking these numbers off the Character screen, that doesn't factor in Blazing Arrow which would add 50% more weapon damage (about 845 I'm guessing if those are Frost Rings).

Which would make his Non Zerk DHP about 13627 vs 14186 ( which is what you would have with +10 decides).

Not bad considering Archers would have half your strength and a weaker mastery (Demon Fist>Demon Blazing).

TY this was something I wanted to know.

PS : I noticed something when opening the link... :O are you Verticoli?!!!

OneBeer - Sanctuary wrote: »

i think dmg is quite good but then again it may not be compared to BM.
I have 101 sin 101 archer and 96 barb (lvld from 87 in 7 days) and will do the BM once the barb is 101. So those fists wont go to waist once they +12 well see some spectacular dmg..

Trust me... put those sick fists on your BM and prepare to be blown away. b:victory

Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Now either your figures above are wrong, or I've now come to the firm conclusion that fists and claws are absolutely wasted on Archers.

Your Crit rate is really your only saving grace !

You are wrong comparing BM with Archer. Fisted archer is not because it's better than BM, it's because it's almost same as BM but still to be Archer!
Apply same fists to your pwcalc. You will get 15-16k, but archer got 12-13k and 17% crit more - it'a about 14-15k.

sins ftw! /agrees with zanny, even tho he annoyed me a long time ago in DW.

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »

was going to try and get a pair for my sage barb, oh that would be so fun first 5.0 sage barb with no need for genie skills. b:victory

I'm pretty sure you would need triple -.05 OHT wrists for 5.0 base sage barb.

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »

-.05 -.05 as the two adds gives me 4.0 base like g13 claws and the beserk would be the extra -.05 for 5.0. Only way to be sage 5.0 without genie

Ahh ok. Hmm interesting in that it won't cancel out your sage damage reduction like windshield but still adds +50% damage taken lol.

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The normal curse isn't 50% from the bm i talked to he said it was about 20% more damage, now if I got the advanced proc and 2 -ints (what's that 1 / 20000 ish?) that would be sickening with double damage sage 5.0.

Don't trust people who say "about" lol. It's exactly +50% damage taken. Also its not "double damage", it's +100% weapon attack.

OneBeer - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hi Guys
I have had a lot of ppls ask the DMG from my G15 Beserker Fists

What my fists look like
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll82/verticoli/2011-05-1413-30-42.jpg

(Not Barb Buffed)
1) Non Sparked Non Buffed DMG

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3,484 - 3,652
2) Non Sparked Non Buffed Berserker DMG ---- 5,226 - 5,478
3) Sparked Non Buffed DMG

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12,194 - 12,782
4) Sparked Non Buffed Berserker DMG

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13,936 - 14,608

Thanks a lot OneBeer for sharing this info. I appreciate it very much. I've always wondered what my attack will be like if I had the G15 ones with the 'berserk proc'. You saved me from wasting 500 mil (150 raps@2.5 mil+ each and refine transfer cost) to upgrade my G13 vana fists to G15 So now, I can spend it on the r9 ring and other things instead. The damage is good, but I don't think it's worth the extreme to waste that much coins for a 5 aps archer for farming - especially if you can't tank TT 3-3 with that/your current gear.

Here's my current stats with G13 Vanna 10+ fists with 2 immacs (HA build):

(Not Barb Buffed)
1) Non Sparked Non Buffed physical attack stat

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4,733 - 4,925
3) Sparked Non Buffed physical attack stat

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12,978 - 13,505

What I mean to say is, with 500 mil, I have more than enough to get the r9 ring, with it's attack boast, it will be close to the attack potential as if I had your berserk effect, but it will be more consistent and without that defense debuff. Or, I can spend less than 500 mil and refine my current fists to 12+ with better shards, and in the end it will have more attack power than your current fists. I've been wondering about this mystery for quite some time xD Thanks man!