So a select few FCC clerics

BladedZero - Sanctuary
BladedZero - Sanctuary Posts: 211 Arc User
edited July 2011 in Cleric
So since I returned to the game around a month ago I got hooked on FCC. I never really tried it before because I had always considered it cashshoper's cheating method. However pwi has really made the gap easier to close by making hypers available through tokens and decided to give into my urges. I failed my first time because I didn't know how the bosses worked, but I was kind enough to spare pubs the pain and went with my faction. The helped explain each boss one by one and I did amazingly well after that.

However something has been bugging me during my 15 level skip from 80-95. It seems the skill levels of clerics aren't reflected by their character level at all. I've played with a few low leveled characters who were godlike clerics who knew everything that was going on and gave me the appropriate type of heal the the exact moment it was needed. However every so often, and surprisingly in the 90's I began to see horridly geared clerics do nothing but spam Chromatic Healing Beam. It's more frustrating when this happens and the squad couldn't find a tank, so I'm forced to tank it on my BM. I usually don't mind a slip up, I bought an HP charm for any "oh SH...." moments. However most of the time when the boss only aoes maybe once every 20 secs, I could probably use an ironheart so I don't have an "oh SH..." moment every chance my charm gets to tick. What's more disheartening is when I try to give friendly advice in the kindest words I could find, these clerics would tell me "**** I HEAL EVERYONE. STOP BEING GREEDY." Especially when I'm doing such a good job at keeping aggro none of my squadmates even got hit until the boss aoe'd once every full moon. Even when I ask nicely for a specific Ironheart heal before a pull, they stand there and yell at me to get going.

Now I know there are bad players at all levels, but my question is how does it get this bad at such a high level? I mean at a certain level, isn't there a wall that makes it hard for these individuals to get to here? I've had to leave around 3 squads because my charm would get ***** by 200k before we even got past bishops.
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  • bekkamain
    bekkamain Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I think it has a lot to do with the power leveling craze going on, I'm not saying that all people who Power level are nubs but the Nubs that join the game and go right to power leveling pretty much suck at their classes compared to other people who take the time to learn their class.

    My main is a Cleric and I try my best to do what the tank asks of me because healing the tank is priority, If you cant take commands well or suggestions Don't be a cleric, granted I have had tanks and other people who think cleric is an easy class but its not, you never know how nub a random squad can be It only takes one Nub to cause a squad wipe. I also have charm OCD so if i know my tank is charmed ill flip out on myself if it ticks b:surrender
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, I've run into the type that spam squad heal too. But I also know a few 100+ clerics that do that and they definitely didn't power/hyper level to get to that point. So I dunno... I think lots of people just aren't cut out to be clerics. lol
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  • Jellytoast - Sanctuary
    Jellytoast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, I hate that more than ever now, because obviously my main is a cleric, and now I'm starting to do FCCs on my wizard. I'm not sure if it's my main being a cleric, but I get really angry when clerics don't ironheart EVER.

    Personally, I always use ironheart. It's my favorite thing ever, haha. Squad heal is reserved for boss aoes or when everyone is being hit quite a bit. When I see clerics cast wellspring on barbs, or aoe heal when only one person is being hit, I assume I'm in for charm **** because they have no idea what they're doing.


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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Get bloodpaint

    get interval (GV/deicide/cape/-.1 arms kinda assume you have em already since we told you this in the bm forum >.>)

    Spark on bosses/HF on mobs

    use geni wisely and have a veno to trow sparks

    Ditch the clerics like a used rubber full of aids

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  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I mean at a certain level, isn't there a wall that makes it hard for these individuals to get to here? I've had to leave around 3 squads because my charm would get ***** by 200k before we even got past bishops.

    There was a "wall".

    But then they invented power leveling b:surrender
  • Yogaxpto - Dreamweaver
    Yogaxpto - Dreamweaver Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There was a "wall".

    But then they invented power leveling b:surrender
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  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There was a "wall".

    But then they invented power leveling b:surrender

    No, I remember high level fails well before they introduced bh one-a-days. The higher number of players in the top levels means there's more of both good players and fail players.

    I just keep a "Do Not Squad" list. If someone proves they're fail, add them to the list. Friend the ones that know what they're doing. If you can get enough good people, you can carry the dead weight of whatever class that doesn't know what they're dong.
  • Soira - Raging Tide
    Soira - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Well, I've seen this kind of clerics, mainly on my veno.

    It's really annoying when, for example, I catch the harpy so it won't aggro the cleric and instead of healing me, the cleric just DDs, even when I ask as kindly as I can for a few IHs...and then my charm gets killed :/

    Or when only one person is being hit and they use Chromatic Beam. It's even worse if that person dies by the time CB is cast b:shocked I don't understand why some clerics use it like it's the ONLY heal they have x_x

    Or, a few months ago, I went to FC with a lvl 80 cleric. Everything went well, until we got to the second boss (the one with the bubble debuff). He got debuffed and died. So I adviced him to try IHing himself once in a while (well, that's what I used to do...). Then he's like "OMG WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU **** *** ****** *** **** ******* ***** *************************************************!!1!1!@!!!2!!!!1!23!!!!#!!!" Then he released, came back, but then refused to heal us and started making drama about how we're mistreating him -.- ...just because I DARED to give him an advice //.- (if THAT was mistreating he REALLY doesn't want to end up in some squads I had on my cleric, honestly :/ ).In the end I called him fail and kicked him :/

    So yeah, I wish those "walls" would exist too:/
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    "HOW DARE YOUS TELLS ME WAT 2 DO" b:angry

    "I KNOWS WAT I'S DOING"


    Hmmm was it the blue button for healz rite???

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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Well, I've seen this kind of clerics, mainly on my veno.

    It's really annoying when, for example, I catch the harpy so it won't aggro the cleric and instead of healing me, the cleric just DDs, even when I ask as kindly as I can for a few IHs...and then my charm gets killed :/

    Or when only one person is being hit and they use Chromatic Beam. It's even worse if that person dies by the time CB is cast b:shocked I don't understand why some clerics use it like it's the ONLY heal they have x_x

    Or, a few months ago, I went to FC with a lvl 80 cleric. Everything went well, until we got to the second boss (the one with the bubble debuff). He got debuffed and died. So I adviced him to try IHing himself once in a while (well, that's what I used to do...). Then he's like "OMG WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU **** *** ****** *** **** ******* ***** *************************************************!!1!1!@!!!2!!!!1!23!!!!#!!!" Then he released, came back, but then refused to heal us and started making drama about how we're mistreating him -.- ...just because I DARED to give him an advice //.- (if THAT was mistreating he REALLY doesn't want to end up in some squads I had on my cleric, honestly :/ ).In the end I called him fail and kicked him :/

    So yeah, I wish those "walls" would exist too:/

    The only time I use chromatic beam instead of IH in a situation where IH would be better is when aggro has switched but because everyone is clustered together and someone has used absolute domain, I can't tell who actually took the aggro as no one's health is going down. I'll cast it, spin the camera and see if that helps or wait a second and cast it again until i notice someone's health is dropping a little. Once I know I immediately switch back to IH, this usually takes me all of a few seconds. I had a couple of times to where i cast it cuz of lag spike and I couldn't tell who took the harpy off of me because the damage counter still was frozen on my screen and my char appeared frozen on the screen. I figure better some heal than nothing at all. But in general, I would never use it as my only heal and I don't get why some clerics do. Even if you have enough channeling for it to be a farily quick heal, it's still not as good as IH. Heck chromatic really is just a squad version of blessings of the purehearted. :P
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Heck chromatic really is just a squad version of blessings of the purehearted. :P

    I don't know if I agree with that entirely... but squad heal has definite perks. It's situational, just like SoR. Knowing when and how to use it is a part of what separates a "bad" cleric from a "good" one.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I don't know if I agree with that entirely... but squad heal has definite perks. It's situational, just like SoR. Knowing when and how to use it is a part of what separates a "bad" cleric from a "good" one.

    I mean it's definitely a useful skill when used correctly don't get me wrong, where as Blessings in almost completely useless but its basically the same thing, longer channeling time for a bigger one shot heal.
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  • StreamElf - Sanctuary
    StreamElf - Sanctuary Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Why is this?

    Because of the hypers and oracles noobs are using to powerlvl their class without knowing how to play it (I mean.. a lvl 100 mystic/seeker 2 weeks after they're out..?)

    And about gear: Not everyone is able to afford great gear (like me). I'm halfway lvl 90 and i'm still wearing my TT70 top, because i can't afford to buy one and i don't have the time and people to go on a thousand TT runs. So slowly i gather it all. Now i've farmed the Wraith Conquerer, so that's one down the list. But i'm sure i won't have alot more when i reach a higher lvl. So you shouldn't judge people by their gear (unless they're wearing lvl 30 noob stuff.. Then you have all the rights lol), it's their skills that matter. I've only had 1 person ever calling me fail and that was a barb that was too impatient to wait for me and rushed in, causing a squad wipe. And as i stated above, my armor is FAR from up to date lol.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I know we're blaming hypers and oracles but if you don't start hypering till level 80 you should know how to play your class by then...

    Have had 2 clerics rage quit in FCCs lately. I've FCCd as a cleric, veno, barb, bm, and twice now as a sin. Sins are squishy so I tried to have very decent gear on my sin if I'm gonna tank to make life easier on the cleric. Cube neck, decent refines, and I stay permasparked using +8 deicides at 4.0 rather than 2.5 with TT80 daggers (I use the daggers when unsparked). I'm not squishy.

    Had one cleric who would Stream of rejuvination... wait... wait... wait.... SoR... wait... wait... wait. I have 5700 hp unbuffed, 7700 hp buffed on my sin and she was waiting for it to get to around 2k, then giving me a big SoR. Anyways, tanking the claw boss I died. So while sitting there I said "I don't mean to tell you how to heal, but howabout just giving me an IH for its bigger heal over time. Streams Heal over time sucks." The response I get was "Fine, heal yourself" *ragequits*. Well, I had been. I had been using pots most the FCC because our cleric sucked but why are the only clerics that rage quit also the worst clerics at healing?

    Two days later I'm in an FCC, 5/6 people in my squad are in skype with a random cleric being the only person and we are being polite to the cleric in squad chat but ripping on them in our skype call. This cleric is spamming chromatic during every shade pull and on every boss. No debuffing, no purify, no timing, just spamming. I'm tanking, and on the jailer boss I grab aggro of the dragoon (btw, squad heal is a great way to make sure you get aggro when an add appears because you're healing people besides the tank). Now I am tanking the boss, a dragoon, being bled, have no heals stacked, and i get stunned, and I haven't had a heal in 10 second because clerics 6 second squad heal was interupted by dragoon stun. I am however potting to cover the clerics lack of skills. But I died. Didn't say anything, just continued on. We get to slasher and the cleric is standing halfway across the map squad healing out of range of me tanking the boss, so I ask for an IH. Their response "I'm healing". At this point we've been ripping on the cleric in the skype call for 15 minutes and our puller goes ape-sht on the cleric about her "heals" to which she rage quits. I don't blame her for rage quitting, just wish we had kicked her instead. We finished the rest of the FCC without a cleric, no problem and it went much smoother.

    Here's the thing: I can solo FCCs, I just use pots or genie heals. If I have a cleric I don't use those as much and I die. So having a crappy cleric is worse than having no cleric at all because you assume they'll help in some manner. Crapy clerics, squad healers, SoR users, and rage quiters are the reason people are starting to do more and more clericless. I remember a time when a barb got 1/2 the TT drops because they were that important, if they didn't get it they'd rage quit. Clerics need to realize they are becoming less and less needed and falling more into the class of "pot saver", debuffer, or the mage classes people don't bring to FCC to save time. I realize it on my cleric and make sure I am there to save pots, prevent charm ticks, and speed things up with DD and debuffs and not feel so fricken self important.

    Edit: realized this was a wall of text, a rant, and off topic at bad clerics in general.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, powerleveling = crappy skills as a player. It's just more obvious for clerics methinks, but it happens with every class.
    As evidenced by the lvl 100 barb my BM had the misfortune of running a Brim with - where the first thing the barb said was "I've never been in Brim before" then followed that by ******** at me for not HF'ing on his sparks whislt I was clearly tanking.

    "Why u no HF?"

    "I'm tanking."

    "No I flesh reamed I r tank"

    "I'm the one taking damage."

    "No I flesh reamed I r tank."

    "You aren't tanking."

    "No he hit me right then."

    "Yes, he hits you once on flesh ream then goes back to me, I'm not even sparking."

    "He hit me on FR, you should HF right after so I can switch to human and DD"

    "K"

    "You fail, no HF on my spark"

    "K"

    Buuuuuuuuut

    I'm still wondering how you managed to lose 200k off of a charm before you even hit bishop boss. Even with no cleric at all you shouldn't be losing that much on a full run.
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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Its a pleasure to kick out those Cromathic Heal-spammers who have absolutely no clue of WTF is going on and thus they simply click on"Heal all"Button.

    This game is easy,Cleric's job is average difficult at the most,if you don't have at least 2 brain cells to use IH on the only one who's taking damage GTFO.

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  • LadyKaze - Heavens Tear
    LadyKaze - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I love being a cleric, in all the games i played i was the healer. It's not a very easy job but it's very fun and rewarding if you make a little effort to be good at it b:chuckle. But you can't be good at something from the first try, at least that's the way i am .
    My first FF was crazyb:shocked ,i died like 10 times and my squad couple times, but they ware all friends and told me each step what i need to do . After i was mad on my self cos i didn't make any reserch of FF before starting it . Even now if i am unsure about something i will ask my squad . It's not a shame if you don't know something, but if you think you are the best and do only what you want then you are a very bad cleric.
    Now i think FF is very easy if you know the basic of it , but you need also a good squad .
    About heals i think all of them are good in different situations and as a good cleric you should know what the situations are b:laugh .


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  • ILubby - Raging Tide
    ILubby - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Why is this?

    Because of the hypers and oracles noobs are using to powerlvl their class without knowing how to play it (I mean.. a lvl 100 mystic/seeker 2 weeks after they're out..?)

    And about gear: Not everyone is able to afford great gear (like me). I'm halfway lvl 90 and i'm still wearing my TT70 top, because i can't afford to buy one and i don't have the time and people to go on a thousand TT runs. So slowly i gather it all. Now i've farmed the Wraith Conquerer, so that's one down the list. But i'm sure i won't have alot more when i reach a higher lvl. So you shouldn't judge people by their gear (unless they're wearing lvl 30 noob stuff.. Then you have all the rights lol), it's their skills that matter. I've only had 1 person ever calling me fail and that was a barb that was too impatient to wait for me and rushed in, causing a squad wipe. And as i stated above, my armor is FAR from up to date lol.
    I agree with this on the gear part, I kept using tt70 armor until I hit like 92 and was able to afford tt90 and I NEVER failed on an FC run ever, even my FC training run, it went very smooth. But srsly if high lvl clerics (+70 is high lvl to me) cannot comprehend the basic healing standards like when to IH, when to aoe heal when to purify and when to WS....we got a problem.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Although I agree with the whole PL phase creating a bad player... I don't agree with a charm tick defineing a bad cleric. Or even 10 charm ticks.

    A wellspring could completely heal a robe class from 20ish % to 100%, however the abilty to use that skill to its fullest potential is cut in half due charms. 2 wellspring could completely heal a half assed BM.

    In AoE situations if the cleric is short of high -% chan, chromatic between chan time, and cast time can out weigh the stacked IH time and heal efficiency of a low HPed BM/sin that is tanking, and unfortunatelly you will find yourself charm tanking more often then not. Barbs can live through the chromatic wait better because of +HP + tiger defences + skill giving the clerci buffer time to deal out the heals and return to the stacking. Chromatic breaks the cycle of timed IHs, and a low hp sin/BM will naturally get slammed with a tick before the next cycle takes effect.


    If you are more worried about your charm, than you are about the XPs, seriously, leave squad and get a rainbow. Don't be a BM with 6k HP and want to tank, Don't be a sin with with the notion that tripple sparking and auto attack wont win you aggro...and expect to have 100% chance of no charm tick,
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  • Soira - Raging Tide
    Soira - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    It's not just about charm tick. Even I let quite a few charms tick on different occasions, but I did my best to keep the number of ticks to the minimum. If, as a DD/tank, I wanted to charm-tank something then I might as well not bring a cleric at all.Why not bring another DD to make it faster so the charm ticks less?
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    It's not just about charm tick. Even I let quite a few charms tick on different occasions, but I did my best to keep the number of ticks to the minimum. If, as a DD/tank, I wanted to charm-tank something then I might as well not bring a cleric at all.Why not bring another DD to make it faster so the charm ticks less?

    This.

    As a cleric, I know I can't stop every charm tick. Heck, there may be times where I'll have to let a charm tick to save a squad... however, my job there is to heal and support. If I'm not at least reducing how much the squad needs to rely on their own pots/charms, then I'm doing it wrong and they may as well just get another DD.

    And when I'm a DD who gets forced to play aggro pong with the tank because of a ****ty cleric who doesn't have a clue what they're doing, I get kinda annoyed at them. This is normally followed by me booting said cleric for either a different DD, or someone who knows how to heal.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Thats the problem. You don't need to rely on a charm. But a charm also cuts a player in half for the cleric, and their fullest healing potential.

    So you can't rate a clerics healing skill on charm ticks. If the charm ticked at 10%, maybe 20%? I could see that. But at 50% you now turn a 6-7k HP BM into a 3-4K heal hungry BM. If you have a 4k veno, they are now 2k needy for heals... catch my drift?

    If that now 2k worth of HP veno don't want their charm to tick, they simply don't need to run out into the hall and grow a penor for their character that came without one. If that archer/sin with 3k HP worth the healing window don't want thier charm to tick, they should consider more options than auto attack. Because even if you have a sin tanking, in the lower levels stacking a consistant IH does work, but opens windows for the other 2-3k heal hungry chars charms to tick....

    either way, the OP was a BM tanking, with a charm, I highly doubt they are 15+k HPs...at 97 ill quesstimate 7k at best. in half thats 3.5 K HPs worth the healing to keep up to prevent a charm tick. Posible? yea, but also broadens the potential to cause other in squad to go ignored long enough to get their charm to tick. All of a sudden you have a squad full of charm ticking QQers that blame the cleric.
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  • ColdSnow - Dreamweaver
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver Posts: 983 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    -_- i think the higher the level the crazier gets the cleric. i had today lvl102 one and thought \o/ yay maybe a cleric that knows what to do...yet he spammed one stream after another even tho ppls HP been at 100%.

    I been in soooo many FCs. 99% of time its with a cleric who spams one aoe-heal after another without using once IH. i had once even a cleric who used AOE-heal, while i was killing a harpy..alone....i had only 8hp left and rescued myself only with soul transfusion...while she was channeling her aoe-poo--

    And yet..thats exactly why i dont tell them anything. Cause you need 20min to find a Cleric at all...and as long they BB at mobs i try to endure this bull****.

    -_- i started to hate clerics.
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  • Soira - Raging Tide
    Soira - Raging Tide Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I been in soooo many FCs. 99% of time its with a cleric who spams one aoe-heal after another without using once IH. i had once even a cleric who used AOE-heal, while i was killing a harpy..alone....i had only 8hp left and rescued myself only with soul transfusion...while she was channeling her aoe-poo--

    And yet..thats exactly why i dont tell them anything. Cause you need 20min to find a Cleric at all...and as long they BB at mobs i try to endure this bull****.

    -_- i started to hate clerics.

    I know how it feels, the exact same thing happens to me when I play my veno b:sweat
  • Jamiesangus - Lost City
    Jamiesangus - Lost City Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    bekkamain wrote: »
    My main is a Cleric and I try my best to do what the tank asks of me because healing the tank is priority, If you cant take commands well or suggestions Don't be a cleric, granted I have had tanks and other people who think cleric is an easy class but its not, you never know how nub a random squad can be It only takes one Nub to cause a squad wipe. I also have charm OCD so if i know my tank is charmed ill flip out on myself if it ticks b:surrender


    ^ agreed espically when im on my sin (who i keep charmless). but on my cleric i hate charms ticking my job when in a squad to me is to stop that also by doing that i keep the people alive i have also been known to apologise like crazy at charm ticks but thats just me xD
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  • Aveidha - Dreamweaver
    Aveidha - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I must say I agree with almost all of what is being said.I have played many different MMO's and usually play as a healer(or else a magic DD,I like magic xD).I don't understand how people can play as a cleric for hundreds of hours without picking up SOME feicen idea of what to do and what not to do.I have never gotten to end-game in anything and am as nooby as hell about most things,but I don't think anyone can claim to 'know' their class when they only use one out of 22 active skills.You'd think that these people would be happy to take other people's advice as they are obviously not making any effort themselves,so being told what is good would let them be lazier while not failing.Being a healer takes a lot of effort and you need to pay attention at all times.I'm not used to people having charms yet(never encountered anything similar before),but I will learn by trying new things and not spamming a 'heal-all' spell.I make a lot of mistakes(especially regarding heal agro) but I am more then happy to take advice unless it is 'heal me now!'.Constructive criticism is welcome,unless it's 'u fail' and nothing else.

    Whew,rant over......Bottom line,the problem is laziness.You seriously expect me to believe you are trying AT ALL be spamming one skill???It just doesn't work I'm afraid.
    "Elife feye,afracreen mazigasha.Antorin saz,laka daka fiiren."

    "Ionsaimid,o dubhnacht na hoiche.Ni fagaimid aon duine beo."

    "We strike,from the black of the night.We leave none alive."
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The most annoying question I hear on my sin is: "WHO IS TANKING I NEED TO KNOW WHO TO HEAL!"

    ...Heal who ever is taking damage you ****ing dumbass.

    Cleric isn't difficult, as long as you don't have ADD. If you have the ability to focus for 3-4 minutes at a time you'll be great.
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  • Zvyn - Heavens Tear
    Zvyn - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The most annoying question I hear on my sin is: "WHO IS TANKING I NEED TO KNOW WHO TO HEAL!"

    ...Heal who ever is taking damage you ****ing dumbass.

    Cleric isn't difficult, as long as you don't have ADD. If you have the ability to focus for 3-4 minutes at a time you'll be great.

    b:chuckle It's always nice to know who the "tank" is going to be so that you aren't waiting to see who is taking the most damage after someone pulls a boss or three or four people rush it. Unrelated but that happened to me today in 79. BM pulled the boss, the veno stood around with her thumb up her butt, and the archer played for agro with the seeker and bm. Ping pong is frustrating. It's nice to have a heads-up if someone thinks they'll be doing the most damage most consistently.
  • Manostra - Harshlands
    Manostra - Harshlands Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Wow you dont let a good hair on us clerics :)

    I play my cleric now a good year (well 2 years but with some breaks) and obviously im not in need of another clerics service. Readin this make me really wanna level an alt just to see one of this aoe heal spamming clerics. It sounds too stupid to be true.

    Ironheart is bread and butter for the cleric

    Wellspring is the "**** IH wont made it in time" charm saver who can used inbetween IH spam.

    Stream (Deamon) is the Opener on the Tank for the 100% Phy Def Buff and the way to go when your barb have 10% hp left for whatver reason. Ofc followed by IH's

    Cromantic Healing Beam is viable when a Boss does AOE but you use it only after his aoe , else you spam ihs on the tank and an ocasional Stream for the Def Buff. Some Mobs (the horse riders in brim for ex) spam AOE , this is where the mass heal shine and you use it 90% of your time with some Wellspring inbetween to fix some real low people.

    DD is for lazy clerics, i admit im one of them. If you drop out of BB you usually Mass heal until you can recast BB

    Order for Heals is always Tank, the stupid ohhh look i can steal aggro im so cool person you always have in the squad, myself, rest.

    The real fun as cleric begin when you have a barb and 3 sin and they battle for aggro , with all the blinky blinky around a pulk of maroding mobs you cant tell whos hit until you see it in your party list and this little ting tends to lag a bit sometimes. So you see switching the aggro always to the guy you not ih spam actually and just when you change target someone elses hp are dropping rapidly. In this moments you bb, if you cant you just let 3 of them die and heal the survivor while rezzing the others who will sometimes be cured from their OHHHH IM THE AGGRO MONSTER SEE ME STEALING AGGRO cancer, the fact they unbuffed now helps too.

    That was just a little walktrough the mind of a cleric, maybe it helps you to understand this strange guys who favor heal over damage the next time a little better when they do things you find wired. :)
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  • Boots_Elf - Sanctuary
    Boots_Elf - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    There are only 2 bosses in FCC I use Chromatic on, maybe 3.. Super Slash guy if and when he has a chance to hit everyone and the last claw guy just before you tele to the exp room cause he hits everyone then stuns everyone so 1st thing once Im unfroze is CB. And again, thats only if and when the whole squad gets hit with aoe. Otherwise I use the hell out of my IH button and watch for the random agro ping-pongs that may happen. And Im one of those silly clerics that always forgets about herself.. I concentrate so much one everyone elses bar I always forget mine. But I'm charmed, have foods and usually an attack charm equipped and a defense charm in the bag to click on.