Assassin [Thoughts]

.It sucks.

Because you will need plenty of money/pots to survive in lower levels...or plenty of patience farming Life Powders.

Also because LA armor is kinda crappy at close distance,before BP effect gets anywhere significant(59 and above,and even after 70 isn't like you gonna have an easy time),you will need either to be Hp/charmed or have a decently sharded gear to not be killed in BHs all the times by BH mobs or bosses(See agro stealing).

On the other hand,the other LA class,Archers don't need such good armor at lower levels since they get hitted way less and have the Winged Shell thing that's a life saver(Let alone higher levels).

So my advice is make a money-making alt you prefer like Veno for TT(Solo mode)farming,or Cleric(Easier to squad for TTs/Nirvanas/w/e).

Personally, I enjoy it. He is right that the lower levels you are a pot eater (life powder in the lower levels helps) I won't pretend to be a high sin. Only 50 at the moment, but I enjoy it. And I have a 97 bm and decided to go sin to make money.

I have to disagree with the person above. Sins are way OP in the end and worth the struggle through the beginning in my eyes. Yes you do need good sharded gear. But money making alt?? Sins can solo FF for 5m (on HT server) each run. I know one person who does it so he makes 50-60m a day. And I'm pretty sure high sins can solo TT as well (if not better cause they can stealth past all the mobs they don't want to fight??)

I won't lie and pretend the low levels are great. They do suck. I quit twice in my 20s because I hated meditating so much after like every 1-2 mobs I killed (when I didn't have Life Powder). Once you get BP it begins to help (34) and the higher you get, the easier.

As for stealing aggro in BH.....that's if you're tarded. It's easy NOT to steal if you just wait a few seconds while the tank gets a good hold on the boss, let him wack away a bit and just stand idle (or buff yourself) then attack. Ya, if you run up right away and aps the thing to death you'll get aggro, dur, but it's called limiting yourself so that you dont. It's really not that hard. If worst comes to worst and you simply cant fathom standing idle, chill of the deep limits your attack speed down making it less likely to steal aggro. (cuts your aps down while increasing your attk lvl)

And if you do get aggro, shadow escape to reset your aggro level and it will go back to the tank. (only applies for bosses with actual levels, not the [?] / lvl 150 bosses)

It's all about preference. I love being a sin. I can't wait to be higher on my sin and be able to do TTs and FFs. Which sins are always wanted for (yes clerics are easier to get in because they are the most wanted class) but sins are strong dds and people like quicker runs because of them and if nothing else, love them for their BP.

EDIT: The person above when I was tying this was BerserkBeast. Guess BarbLord is quicker than I am b:chuckle

just my opinion : as good and as bad as any other class.

all classes are kinda hard/slow to lvl as 1st toon. good gear doesn't drop from the sky, and it's hard work on a 1st toon. way harder then on an alt. venomancer probably easiest to lvl, but with pets you will have to work on lvling them cause with bh they will drop behind. psychics are rather easy early lvl, but cost tons of mp food. (I only never played a mystic, so won't know on that part.) From my experience, those who don't need much hp food will need mp food and the otherway around. all will want good armor and good weap.

@ BerserkBeast : I think all classes got stuff to learn. venos need to learn how to pull and who to bramble. any half decent geared class can do TT solo modes. moneymaking on a sin as 1st toon is hard yeah, but not harder then on any other class. at least imo it isn't.

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

Second,the OP was asking to have a Sin as a"First",character,that means,no experience in game,and no lv.97 BM alt to give him the money to buy for example,lv.22 Legendary Daggers(Assuming that you don't get the mold from that quest).

How much money and stuff you transferred on your Sin when he was like lv.20?,not much for a lv.97,but for sure plenty of money for a"First",char lv.20.
Assuming that he don't Buy Gold,Merchanting,or other means to get plenty of coins,he simply won't have enough money to be"Up-to-date",gear(Assuming also having legendary daggers for his level),without spending a lot of time grinding(And spending on pots in the process).

Lol, actually, the only thing I gave to my sin was a mount and life powder to survive, which the mount doesn't help you fight/level (just runs faster) and the life powder is completely free if you farm it. So technically my sin didn't get any money from the BM until around 40. And by 40 you ought to be a bit less noobish and know how to play your person

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

And we're talking about a FIRST character here,not all sins magically gets +10 equip/daggers nor they jump to"Endgame",in a week or two,especially as a first char,I assume he shouldn't even rush too much.
For someone who just started this game and I assume he have no idea of what a Life Powder is or what Steal Agro is about Sins are quite a troublesome class to start with.

Sins teach you a lot about the game. I learned more about the game as a melee class than as a cleric (mostly due to the fact cleric is the same job, different location. keep the squad alive) Whereas my BM had to learn to limit himself -just like the sin- and when to do what, what explodes, where to go, stuff like that. They're, in my opinion, an easier class to start with than a BM. BM you have to pick which weapon path to go with (which now adays everyone is fist/axe) and you have to learn when to use what weapon when (for sins that use bows like I do, then yes, you have to learn this too, but most dont pick up a bow until Frost that I see).

And the tideborn starter quests are quick, easy, and a breeze. They're for the most part close together and not too bad to run to. I would dread making another human person just for the fact I'd have to walk everywhere again. At least sins 1. walk faster 2. smaller map theyre on (free tele between dragonfang and tb city and you can jump over the mountain and not walk so far, much faster than running across half the map it seems and you save money by not teleing)

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

So basically what Im saying is that you're talking too much about"Endgame",and forgetting that you have to work a lot to get there.
See how many lv.60/70 Sins can do a thing in TT,while Venos can just farm in solo mode with ease.
A Sin before lv.89 and before actually having a decent equip(Which doesn't come from the sky but its earned somehow),its simply NOT a farming machine.

From what I hear 7x Sin is more when the sin comes out to play and starts to shine more, true, once you hit demon/sage/aps levels it gets better. But hell, all of them do, when I went demon on my bm. Even if I didn't use my demon spark (when I had no skills also) just having 2.22 aps makes farming a hella lot faster. So, aps comes into play with the whole 89 thing, not JUST the culti imo.

For me, I dreaded playing a veno. The pet would get left behind level wise and I hated cube (also didn't have 140m to get a herc -- that was the price at the time I was playing) and straight up, ok you can solo TT for money. But sorry, venos aren't wanted in FF over a sin (notice I said over. some of us still like venos xD) but if you ask a squad if theyd rather have a sin or a veno. You can guess the answer. Same with Nirvana. They want aps. Sins are more wanted for things in the end. I actually quit for about a year out of pure boredom of trying to level that darn pet up to me.

All classes have their ups and downs and it's all about preference. I like being a sin and I think it's an easy class to adjust to and learn from. For ANY new player however, I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend once they pick someone they want to be RESEARCH! Look up the different builds and skills that are worth getting it.

True, this game is made the way it is to pick what you want to be

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however, certain builds are not accepted by other people (like a AA BM with no aps trying to join Nirvana/TT/FF)I personally messed up my veno when I first started by putting to all of them evenly thinking that would be the best way to go about it. And just got the skills that sounded the best. However, many people who do not do research have to literally pay later in reset stones or spirit/money for skills. Like a cleric using pure hearted is a complete waste of money/spirit. And it irks me a bit when I see clerics using PH rather than IH or Wellspring.

Anyway, on topic, all classes have ups and downs. Sins are squishy killers. Learn to survive and kill quick. But I highly recommend you do some research on the class that you do decide on.

kriviox wrote: »

Sins teach you a lot about the game. I learned more about the game as a melee class than as a cleric (mostly due to the fact cleric is the same job, different location. keep the squad alive) Whereas my BM had to learn to limit himself -just like the sin- and when to do what, what explodes, where to go, stuff like that. They're, in my opinion, an easier class to start with than a BM. BM you have to pick which weapon path to go with (which now adays everyone is fist/axe) and you have to learn when to use what weapon when (for sins that use bows like I do, then yes, you have to learn this too, but most dont pick up a bow until Frost that I see).

And the tideborn starter quests are quick, easy, and a breeze. They're for the most part close together and not too bad to run to. I would dread making another human person just for the fact I'd have to walk everywhere again. At least sins 1. walk faster 2. smaller map theyre on (free tele between dragonfang and tb city and you can jump over the mountain and not walk so far, much faster than running across half the map it seems and you save money by not teleing).

Exactly! Couldn't explain better xD
My 1st character was my assassin. When i created it i never played pw before, neather other MMORPG, so i didn't know anything about the game. And idk why i choose an assassin, i think it just looked nice :P
I think as a 1st character tideborns can be really awesome, but when i reach lvl 20 in my sin and had to go to archosaur, i was disappointed cause the islands are the most beautiful places in pw, and when i saw the rest of the world.. i wanted to come back to the islands xD