91 Assassin LF Faction

CritCat - Archosaur
CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
edited May 2011 in Etherblade (West)
Extremely poor sage assassin:b:victory

Wants FC, complains alot, and has perfect TW attendance record.

And will farm my gears.b:dirty

EDIT: 94 w/sage Dagger Devotion, yay.
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Noone wants me see! I'm hated! b:cute
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  • StudmuffinIX - Archosaur
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    who are ju? b:puzzled and why do u talk like ur a factor in this game b:puzzled
  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    Noone wants me see! I'm hated! b:cute

    Join OUTCAST (recruiting 90+). We do nothing all day and nobody helps anyone. Besides, we're as social as a pack of rabbid wolves. What are you waiting for ? Join now.
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »
    who are ju? b:puzzled and why do u talk like ur a factor in this game b:puzzled

    lol@"factors" in a video game b:chuckle
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »
    Join OUTCAST (recruiting 90+). We do nothing all day and nobody helps anyone. Besides, we're as social as a pack of rabbid wolves. What are you waiting for ? Join now.

    OUTCAST won't take me because (I think Elielebeth was their name, i know I spelled it wrong) hated me from some PK drop/loss/steal, and accused me of setting it up.

    Gotten kicked from there recently because Eli left and people threatened to leave just cause he did.
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    OUTCAST won't take me because (I think Elielebeth was their name, i know I spelled it wrong) hated me from some PK drop/loss/steal, and accused me of setting it up.

    Gotten kicked from there recently because Eli left and people threatened to leave just cause he did.

    That's just...wait, you pk-steal from faction members ?

    BAD FISHIE !! b:angry
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »
    That's just...wait, you pk-steal from faction members ?

    BAD FISHIE !! b:angry

    I've had to explain myself countless times but no, I didn't steal PK drops.

    Long story short:I start PKing, I invite fac members to, 100+ assassin PKs eli while I went AFK, I come back to see everyone screaming at me saying I set it up, I set what up?

    Eli lost a TT70 LA chest plate, makes me giggle now when I think back on it.
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  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    WholePint should join Immunity ijs... >_>
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  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Still LF faction b:shutup
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  • Zaibeast - Archosaur
    Zaibeast - Archosaur Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Rank 9 or GTFO!! b:angry
  • Valeira - Archosaur
    Valeira - Archosaur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lawl sage sin is fail

    why did you even go sage? it sucks

    i would invite you to my faction but we don't allow idiots. and since you must be an idiot to go sage sin, you are not allowed. b:bye
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Valeira - Archosaur wrote: »
    lawl sage sin is fail

    why did you even go sage? it sucks

    i would invite you to my faction but we don't allow idiots. and since you must be an idiot to go sage sin, you are not allowed. b:bye

    Fortunately I think Crit is too smart to join your faction, since you obviously know very little about sage Assassins. I guess having 4-5 APS, 25% damage reduction, 30 minute buff to increase all critical damage, 10% health reduction skill, 3% bloodsuck, and 50% amp from Subsea, all of it is noob.

    You are a part of this new generation that thinks a demon Assassin is the only way to go. I honestly question your intelligence if you think that.
  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Fortunately I think Crit is too smart to join your faction, since you obviously know very little about sage Assassins. I guess having 4-5 APS, 25% damage reduction, 30 minute buff to increase all critical damage, 10% health reduction skill, 3% bloodsuck, and 50% amp from Subsea, all of it is noob.

    You are a part of this new generation that thinks a demon Assassin is the only way to go. I honestly question your intelligence if you think that.

    I was one of the few that took sage because it fits my playstyle and has the level 11 skills I want.
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  • Metridium - Archosaur
    Metridium - Archosaur Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Fortunately I think Crit is too smart to join your faction, since you obviously know very little about sage Assassins. I guess having 4-5 APS, 25% damage reduction, 30 minute buff to increase all critical damage, 10% health reduction skill, 3% bloodsuck, and 50% amp from Subsea, all of it is noob.

    You are a part of this new generation that thinks a demon Assassin is the only way to go. I honestly question your intelligence if you think that.

    5aps as sage assassin? wtf hax
  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    This isn't a debate about the effectiveness of Sage/Demon, this is about me LF faction.
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  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    I was one of the few that took sage because it fits my playstyle and has the level 11 skills I want.

    I'm planning on taking mine sage as well, simply because I like the skills better for it and I don't intend to go full interval for a long time.
    Metridium - Archosaur wrote: »
    5aps as sage assassin? wtf hax

    Yeah, it is surprising how few people actually realize an Assassin can reach 4-5 APS depending on what they decide to use. Admittedly, for either one you have to use every interval gear you can, and depending on whether you decide to go with daggers or fists (yes, 5 APS Assassin uses fists) you can reach 4 or 5 APS respectively. This is the 4 APS dagger build, with only the rings and helm as option equipment. The fist build would use Decides, HA interval gear, R8 top, and Ashura's ornaments. You could neglect the ornaments and bring it down to 4 APS with better ornaments.

    It deals less damage than the demon APS Assassin would, but it does have better skills. In an APS squad, Rib Strike would take 10% HP from the boss, essentially dealing 50% of your share of the damage in one hit. Wolf Emblem is much better (30 minute buff) and Subsea can be used without interfering with sparking because of sage Inner Harmony.
  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Valeira - Archosaur wrote: »
    lawl sage sin is fail

    why did you even go sage? it sucks

    i would invite you to my faction but we don't allow idiots. and since you must be an idiot to go sage sin, you are not allowed. b:bye

    Sage sins are needed now more than ever. And even if by many people's conceptions "all 'sins suck in TW", a sage 'sin would be far more useful than a demon one in TW or even open-world PK. Endgame sage 'sins will obliterate everything. And we have quite a few examples on our server already.

    Bro...you need to take up trolling classes, mainly because you just made a fool of yourself.
    b:chuckle
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  • Zarbone - Archosaur
    Zarbone - Archosaur Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Sage Wolf Emblem is a joke!! b:bye
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Zarbone - Archosaur wrote: »
    Sage Wolf Emblem is a joke!! b:bye

    Yeah, because having a critical damage increase twice as often is horrible.... b:laugh
  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yeah, because having a critical damage increase twice as often is horrible.... b:laugh

    You don't get a critical damage increase twice as often. It just lasts longer for sage (30 minutes), but it's reduced to 20%.

    Demon Wolf Emblem on the other hand increases your crit damage by 40%.
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  • Zarbone - Archosaur
    Zarbone - Archosaur Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yeah, because having a critical damage increase twice as often is horrible.... b:laugh

    Id rather have more crit for lesser time than lesser crit for more time ijs b:surrender.
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »
    You don't get a critical damage increase twice as often. It just lasts longer for sage (30 minutes), but it's reduced to 20%.

    Demon Wolf Emblem on the other hand increases your crit damage by 40%.

    Actually, you do. While demon can only activate it once every 60 seconds, lasting for 30 seconds each time, while sage lasts for 30 minutes straight. If a demon Assassin were to use it as often as they could, they would only have it on half the time, essentially meaning sage has it twice as often in a battle.

    So, while demon has one which is twice as powerful, sage makes up for that by being able to have the increase twice as often.
    Zarbone - Archosaur wrote: »
    Id rather have more crit for lesser time than lesser crit for more time ijs b:surrender.

    And I'd rather have it on at all times rather than for 30 seconds out of every minute. It's just a matter of personal preference, just like going sage or demon.
  • Martin - Harshlands
    Martin - Harshlands Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Actually, you do. While demon can only activate it once every 60 seconds, lasting for 30 seconds each time, while sage lasts for 30 minutes straight. If a demon Assassin were to use it as often as they could, they would only have it on half the time, essentially meaning sage has it twice as often in a battle.

    So, while demon has one which is twice as powerful, sage makes up for that by being able to have the increase twice as often.



    And I'd rather have it on at all times rather than for 30 seconds out of every minute. It's just a matter of personal preference, just like going sage or demon    .

    If the fight between you and the sin lasts longer then 30 seconds. Either the sin is doing something wrong or god loves you. Most likely the first.
    PvE = F2P PvP = P2P
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Martin - Harshlands wrote: »
    If the fight between you and the sin lasts longer then 30 seconds. Either the sin is doing something wrong or god loves you. Most likely the first.

    You are assuming I mean only in PvP. However, it is a valid point for those who decide to focus on PvP. I however grew tired of it for the most part, with the exception of TW, quite some time ago.

    Besides, it has been pretty much established that for the most part, Sage=PvE and Demon=PvP. I am a preferred PvE player who is playing on a PvE server. Sage is actually perfect for me.
  • StudmuffinIX - Archosaur
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    You are assuming I mean only in PvP. However, it is a valid point for those who decide to focus on PvP. I however grew tired of it for the most part, with the exception of TW, quite some time ago.

    Besides, it has been pretty much established that for the most part, Sage=PvE and Demon=PvP. I am a preferred PvE player who is playing on a PvE server. Sage is actually perfect for me.

    ok so what 5 aps sin takes 30 mins to kill something in pve?

    A PRO ONE THATS WHO b:chuckle
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »
    ok so what 5 aps sin takes 30 mins to kill something in pve?

    A PRO ONE THATS WHO b:chuckle

    You have also made an early assumption. You assume I am planning to go 5 APS. There are other ways to play an Assassin than by doing that. People got along fine levels 1-99 without having 5 APS on their Assassin, I'm quite certain they can do the same at 100+.
  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    You have also made an early assumption. You assume I am planning to go 5 APS. There are other ways to play an Assassin than by doing that. People got along fine levels 1-99 without having 5 APS on their Assassin, I'm quite certain they can do the same at 100+.

    pve = demon aps or gtfo

    sage = mediocre for pvp, demon still better/easier


    ** 5aps.

    go 4aps r9 daggers instead.

    you can deny it all u like, but thats the easiest and most effecient way to play, plus its the most effective for farming, and succeeding in pwi.
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  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    sage was i guess decent to choose pre-rank sale.
    However, now that interval and hard hitting weapons are so easily attained, there's absolutely no reason to go sage other than to just be different.
    the ONLY reason i'd go sage is for sage BP but that's not a cultivation changing factor.

    Bring up ANY skill and i'll tell you why it can be neglected and turned in favor for demon sins.
  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »
    pve = demon aps or gtfo

    sage = mediocre for pvp, demon still better/easier


    ** 5aps.

    go 4aps r9 daggers instead.

    you can deny it all u like, but thats the easiest and most effecient way to play, plus its the most effective for farming, and succeeding in pwi.

    If I am looking to farm, I can still go 4 APS with sage and daggers, and while the damage is lower, it is more than enough to be effective. If I am in a squad of 4-5 APS people, I am going Sage for no reason other than that I like it's skill set better, and I also do not plan to PvP on my Assassin outside of TW. Not to mention, many will agree that 5 APS is next to worthless in most cases in TW. You need to know how to actually use skills, not just spark and auto attack.
    Zhadi - Archosaur wrote: »
    sage was i guess decent to choose pre-rank sale.
    However, now that interval and hard hitting weapons are so easily attained, there's absolutely no reason to go sage other than to just be different.
    the ONLY reason i'd go sage is for sage BP but that's not a cultivation changing factor.

    Bring up ANY skill and i'll tell you why it can be neglected and turned in favor for demon sins.

    Not trying to sound like an ***, but rather than picking and choosing, why not just explain why each one can be? I suppose though, if I had to pick on (aside from BloodPaint, as I am assuming you mean any other than that one), I would say Throatcut or Power Dash would probably be the hardest to argue for demon in PvE, seeing as I really don't plan to concentrate on PvP. After all, that is what my Seeker will be for mostly.


    I'm not saying anything against demon, but it is just not right for me personally, as far as my Assassin goes. Cleric is definitely going demon simply because I feel like saving a Barb some MP pots with the heals. b:pleased
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    Not trying to sound like an ***, but rather than picking and choosing, why not just explain why each one can be? I suppose though, if I had to pick on (aside from BloodPaint, as I am assuming you mean any other than that one), I would say Throatcut or Power Dash would probably be the hardest to argue for demon in PvE, seeing as I really don't plan to concentrate on PvP. After all, that is what my Seeker will be for mostly.

    I'm not picking and choosing, I'm asking you to give me YOUR examples.
    You mentioned two: Throatcut and Powerdash.

    Throatcut: throatcut would be better in pvp and pve for demon because it amplifies damage. all sage does is brings it from a 95% chance to a 100% chance of silencing.. also, the fact that you mention throatcut as a pve skill really does make me question your "skill".

    Sage Powerdash: For PvE, yes, it is better, but not for PvP... However, you just stated that you're not focusing on being the highest Damage Dealer possible, which you won't be. Even if I, as a demon, don't have my demon version of powerdash and you have your sage powerdash, and we have the same daggers, same refines, same interval, you won't ever outDPS me because 5 aps is 25% more damage than 4 aps.

    Now, you say you won't PK, and you'll TW, and you need to have skills to TW.
    I wonder, have you ever TWd as a sin?

    It's extremely difficult to be effective as a sin in TW. Ask ANY sin. Sage and demon alike.
    What you need mostly in TW is to have your force stealth ready and not on cooldown. Check that skill out for demon. It has a faster cooldown. Also, being able to cast your shadow walk faster so you don't get targetted and it cancels. That's what demon does. What does sage shadow walk do? reduces mp usage by 3 mp per sec...

    You'll also need your targets in place so you aren't chasing them as surrounding enemies take you down. Demon has longer stuns. By 2 seconds. Demon HH lasts 7 seconds and Demon telestun lasts 5.

    You say you want to go sage because you want to use your skills...
    This is really ignorant to say because you're more than likely assuming that all demon sins just normal attack and dont use any skills at all.

    In my opinion, you just need more experience.

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