Where to spend money

keertano1 · May 2011

Used to play PWI but stopped for a year and now i am back. I found out about Forsaken world and played it and already lvl 30. Its loaded and heavily populated and seems to be more or less the same like PWI. So my question is should i spend the cash i have on it and start investing in it or go back to PWI and spend on my old chr. I kind of felt that PWI is now less populated than when i used to play so i am afraid to buy stuff and then everyone just move to forsaken and then i cant really make use of the money i spent in PWI.

Mraochan - Lost City · May 2011

You might want to post in the server forums asking about population for whichever server(s) your char(s) are on, as I only know Lost City.

On Lost City, it seems like there are more people now than when I started... (~2 years ago) Having said that, the game has changed in many ways and you could probably spend a year reading about all that.

ColdSnow - Dreamweaver · May 2011

O.o if u have money to spend, go for p2p games. why spend money on this..-consored-

seriously PWI is 10x expensive than any p2p games i tried >.>

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · May 2011

ColdSnow - Dreamweaver wrote: »

O.o if u have money to spend, go for p2p games. why spend money on this..-consored-

seriously PWI is 10x expensive than any p2p games i tried >.>

This.

In the end, though, it comes down to what you like. I couldn't get into the P2P games I tried... Even though it will end up costing waaaaaaaay more to get to endgame in PWI, require more time, be more of a headache, there's NO customer support, and there's a 'made in china' sticker on it (along with... the... quality issue... "Oh, the american players are complaining again? Let's give them a **** horse to shut them up!"), I'm sticking with PWI until I get tired of it, then I'm going to a P2P game, gonna get to level cap in a month, and spend 4 weeks farming gear, while I make friends along the way. But... The characters can't be customized, you have no flexibility in what you do with your character. On the other hand, they tweak things CONSTANTLY for balance. Which... For a long term gaming commitment, is a better strategy. And, that particular MMO has been around for 3 years longer than PWI... So... Meh.

If I was just starting out, I'd go with P2P, hands down. The initial startup cost and monthly cost is small beans compared to what endgame gear costs in PWI. It's 'free at first', in other words.

meh. Try both and see which you like...

TreeHugs - Harshlands · May 2011

forsaken world is new, so i dont see it "failing" or "dieing" anytime soon (not saying PWI is dieing, but that PWI is a lot older than forsaken world). by all means, if you love the game then go ahead and support it.

but if you havnt played PWI in awhile, i would first start playing again before spending money on it, just in case you decide you like forsaken world more now.

if you find yourself getting back into PWI, then like said before, if you love the game, then go ahead and support it.

SinfuINature - Harshlands · May 2011

TreeHugs - Harshlands wrote: »

forsaken world is new, so i dont see it "failing" or "dieing" anytime soon (not saying PWI is dieing, but that PWI is a lot older than forsaken world). by all means, if you love the game then go ahead and support it.

but if you havnt played PWI in awhile, i would first start playing again before spending money on it, just in case you decide you like forsaken world more now.

if you find yourself getting back into PWI, then like said before, if you love the game, then go ahead and support it.

nice sig btw tree... i need to make me one but im lazy... b:victory

TreeHugs - Harshlands · May 2011

lols... thank you XD

maybe if your so lazy, go request one in the fanatics forum :P

LShattered - Heavens Tear · May 2011

Go get a good Pay2Play game.

KaKabel - Harshlands · May 2011

I have a lvl 42 mage on Forsaken World, but tbh the game's levelling is like going to work: "omg 7:30pm, have to do GT!"
Sure there is lots to do, but at the same time it was mind numbing and not needed, who would wanna spend a day working irl then work in a game too? lolz..

All pwe games require money, and the worst out of the ones I've played is probably BOI (because i was addicted to pets

and there is too many items/gear to refine/upgrade) but if you want to really compare, you would probably spend less in FW compared to PWI, due to the fact there is less equipment and the NPC buying statues at a set price to stop gold inflating too much, simply.

But knowing PWE, you know they have ways of making you spend...

But gameplay and pvp wise, def pwi because of the no of realms in FW (too many), not enough population (except Erdya - for pvp server anyway) and it will probably die in a yr like all the rest of PWE's games, after PWI, just seeing a trend..

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

If I were you, I'd stick to FW. It's a lot more fun, reasonable, balanced and definitely not the same.
Edit: Just to be fair
PWI wins in terms of variety of playgame because gear is not class restricted (except for dags and spheres ) and the option of having stat points.

Both games got pros and cons but for me, FW > PWI

keertano1 · May 2011

b:bye well i have to say that i bought a p2p game as one advise was and man i have to say wow what a difference. you pay upfront but then you dont pay much at all later and wow the graphics and other stuff is just much better. PWI and FW are great. but

jiq · May 2011

Don't spend money on FW, after lvl 35 lvling slows down and gets really booooring. At 50, you will only lvl once a week. XD

FW has annoying crafting system and you have to spam potions nonstop, because characters run out of HP and MP fast and HP/MP regen is almost nonexistent, you can't even SIT down to regen HP/MP. There are not enough skills to keep gameplay intererting, it takes forever to kill mobs with most classes, the quests give crappy exp after lvl 25, you can only count on daily events but they also give almost nothing after 35-40. The random parties are usually full of noobs who mess up your instance runs and they always trashtalk and insult you. So you better join a guild to do instances but they will kick you out if you don't do quild quests, rofl. :P Also, you can do PWI's dailies anytime, but FW events have fixed times. x.x

If you look at the 2 forums, you will see that the PWI forum is more active and that means more people are inetrested in this game. PWI has many players, maybe not as much as in 2008 or 2009, but still a lot more than most free MMOs. The gameplay is more fun, there are more things to do, you lvl faster (though that doesn't mean you should power lvl, that's lame). Do your quests and dailies for a decent lvling speed. I have been playing PWI since August 2009. I quitted FW after 1 month. =_=

XDracona - Heavens Tear · May 2011

I didn't really care for FW...but it's up to you.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · May 2011

jiq wrote: »

Don't spend money on FW, after lvl 35 lvling slows down and gets really booooring. At 50, you will only lvl once a week. XD

FW has annoying crafting system and you have to spam potions nonstop, because characters run out of HP and MP fast and HP/MP regen is almost nonexistent, you can't even SIT down to regen HP/MP. There are not enough skills to keep gameplay intererting, it takes forever to kill mobs with most classes, the quests give crappy exp after lvl 25, you can only count on daily events but they also give almost nothing after 35-40. The random parties are usually full of noobs who mess up your instance runs and they always trashtalk and insult you. So you better join a guild to do instances but they will kick you out if you don't do quild quests, rofl. :P Also, you can do PWI's dailies anytime, but FW events have fixed times. x.x

If you look at the 2 forums, you will see that the PWI forum is more active and that means more people are inetrested in this game. PWI has many players, maybe not as much as in 2008 or 2009, but still a lot more than most free MMOs. The gameplay is more fun, there are more things to do, you lvl faster (though that doesn't mean you should power lvl, that's lame). Do your quests and dailies for a decent lvling speed. I have been playing PWI since August 2009. I quitted FW after 1 month. =_=

I quit LoMA after 1 week. It was... Extremely annoying. I think my character got deleted by now anyway... Or, if not, I'll delete it myself. Not worth playing.

Purge - Raging Tide · May 2011

I had a quick look at FW too and didn't think much of it. It's one of those games where particular mobs are bunched into little groups - almost certainly to accommodate the fascination most PW games seem to have with mass AOE'ing. I hate games like that.

As for PWI costing 10x as much as any P2P - depends on the person. When I started playing PWI I decided to limit myself to $10 per month (less than I've ever paid for a P2P game). I've stuck to that and hadn't spent anything since January, so treated myself to some packs this month

Of course, if you're going to powerlevel your character(s) or are ridiculously desperate to have the best available gear...you're likely to end up wanting to pay out far more than is necessary.

_Petal_ - Harshlands · May 2011

Find another game. This one isn't worth spending jack on. Maybe if we keep telling new players this, and PWI's wallet takes a nosedive, they'll start paying attention to the obvious.

....and maybe I will win the lottery. (Pretty sure I have a higher chance than winning ANYTHING in the miniature casinos this game has...)

Get a P2P game. I suggest Edited. They're allowing people who have bought the game to play free because not all of the content has been released yet.

If you're too dense to take that advice, go get a mount or a pair of wings. Get a starter pack. If you're feeling generous, go get a fashion you can live with. (Sorry, can't chose your own color.)

jiq · May 2011

Purge - Raging Tide wrote: »

As for PWI costing 10x as much as any P2P - depends on the person. When I started playing PWI I decided to limit myself to $10 per month (less than I've ever paid for a P2P game). I've stuck to that and hadn't spent anything since January, so treated myself to some packs this month Of course, if you're going to powerlevel your character(s) or are ridiculously desperate to have the best available gear...you're likely to end up wanting to pay out far more than is necessary.

I agree!

I live in a poor country and can't spend money mindlessly like most Americans. I have been playing PWI since 2009 and only spent 30 dollars so far. I don't have the best gear but it's more than enough to be a good PVE Cleric (I never PVP, I don't like it). Now I'm farming money in Nirvana + TT and it's enough to slowly improve my gear. It took me a month to save up enough money for my R8 and I recently reached 6k HP unbuffed by improving my refines. Not as good as a heavy cash shopper, but I'm proud because I work hard for my stuff. b:victory

Yulk_owns - Lost City · May 2011

You cannot go wrong with

Account stash
4x Safe stones
8x Cuboard stones (unless you find 40 tokens cheap)
Super inventory stone
And maybe a wardrobe stone

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

jiq wrote: »

Don't spend money on FW, after lvl 35 lvling slows down and gets really booooring. At 50, you will only lvl once a week. XD

FW has annoying crafting system and you have to spam potions nonstop, because characters run out of HP and MP fast and HP/MP regen is almost nonexistent, you can't even SIT down to regen HP/MP. There are not enough skills to keep gameplay intererting, it takes forever to kill mobs with most classes, the quests give crappy exp after lvl 25, you can only count on daily events but they also give almost nothing after 35-40. The random parties are usually full of noobs who mess up your instance runs and they always trashtalk and insult you. So you better join a guild to do instances but they will kick you out if you don't do quild quests, rofl. :P Also, you can do PWI's dailies anytime, but FW events have fixed times. x.x

Just lil notes:
- Cap level is 60 in FW, If lvling was fast, everyone will end up lvl +55 in a short time, wheres the fun in that?

- I don't see why crafting system is annoying, since mats exist on a very large scale with insignificant respawn time, I can farm 100 pots in 5 minutes and manufacture them on any spot I like on the map. Not to mention the map which shows resources, pretty convenient.

- I agree that it is kinda annoying that you cannot meditate, but with cooking products, this is fairly easy, again farming cooking products isn't slow at all.

- Yes, there isn't enough skills. But have you noticed that the 1 skill itself does more than 1 thing? Besides, there is autoattack, so you're not supposed to be spamming skills.

- Combat is slow, yes. But seeing the kills I gotta make, they don't exceed 20 on lvl +30, I kill 1/3 of them using the soulforce skill, could be more, if you wanna group the mobs. Besides, not all quests require killing a bunch of mobs.

- Guild quests are part of your dailies, you can do them while you're doing your dailies, like life in the freedom harbor for example, I don't see them much of a pain, in fact, bonus on normal quests I should be doing.

- Events are fixed, yes. But hell, I haven't been able to enter dragon temple or jungle ruins in PWI at all due to the crappy time they happen at. FW has 2 times for each event, and in case of GT, it can stack up to 3 days.

- FW has many more events than PWI and they are not a must. But they are fun though
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- Another thing about FW. Getting excellent gear isn't a pain in the *** like PWI, you can easily collect shards and get yourself an awesome set. Refining isn't a pain in the *** and fairly cheap. And I'm saying this as a noob who does not have any high lvl main to help with coins.

- Mounts, another pain in the *** in PWI, you can either buy them with gold or spend 2m on a horse, 1m if you buy from another player (which most lvl +40 don't have ) But I managed to get a decent rep mount on FW, and I didn't grind for it. I just had the coins for it when it was available at lvl 30.

-Queue system, a brilliant idea that I think PWI should adopt, you don't have to waste 2 hrs looking for a full squad with barb and cleric. Everything is automatic.

This is just what I think

Zarni - Dreamweaver · May 2011

Forsaken World is just a stripped down hybrid of a few other pieces of junk. PWE didn't spend any money to make it, I wouldn't recommend spending any to play.
It has some good points, but very few.

ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »

Just lil notes:
- Cap level is 60 in FW, If lvling was fast, everyone will end up lvl +55 in a short time, wheres the fun in that? Level cap was 80 in PWI originally, look for it to go up in FW as well as more speed leveling options.

- I don't see why crafting system is annoying, since mats exist on a very large scale with insignificant respawn time, I can farm 100 pots in 5 minutes and manufacture them on any spot I like on the map. Not to mention the map which shows resources, pretty convenient.
The weapon and armor crafting systems are highly annoying, although most people use the armor you can farm from the mini-bosses and weapons dropped from dungeons anyway.

- I agree that it is kinda annoying that you cannot meditate, but with cooking products, this is fairy easy, again farming cooking products isn't slow at all. All the different cooking/alchemy that is available is just another way to fill up your inventory making you want to buy more space, too many blatant marketing schemes and too little fun to do......

- Yes, there isn't enough skills. But have you noticed that the 1 skill itself does more than 1 thing? Besides, there is autoattack, so you're not supposed to be spamming skills.
Who cares about spamming? It's just less fun when there are only 4-5 things you can do other than auto-attack. Also, PWI classes either have an auto-attack anyway or a couple spammable skills with very low mp cost, and most skills above the first basic ones have more effects than simple damage, so I think I missed the point of this comment.....

- Combat is slow, yes. But seeing the kills I gotta make, they don't exceed 20 on lvl +30, I kill 1/3 of them using the soulforce skill, could be more, if you wanna group the mobs. Besides, not all quests require killing a bunch of mobs. In fact you'll do very little mob killing at all after level 25-30..... just a bunch of errands for Henry, maybe chase some little girl around town a couple times or sell some bear livers......
oh, and don;t forget your cooking and alchemy lessons, cause you want your chance for rare recipies right?...........

- Guild quests are part of your dailies, you can do them while you're doing your dailies, like life in the freedom harbor for example, I don't see them much of a pain, in fact, bonus on normal quests I should be doing. Yay, dailies dailies and more dailies...... mindless clicking ftw!

- Events are fixed, yes. But hell, I haven't been able to enter dragon temple or jungle ruins in PWI at all due to the crappy time they happen at. FW has 2 times for each event, and in case of GT, it can stack up to 3 days. GT=BH...... if you can only do BH in 2 1hour windows a day, that blows.

- FW has many more events than PWI and they are not a must. But they are fun though.
Glad you enjoy them, I found the word "event" to be a huge exaggeration (not surprising, in PWI the cube and crazy stone are listed as "events"). Spamming right click on a fishing pole icon twice a day or running around on a boat that gets attacked 4 times a day patching holes and firing cannons was fun a few times, but there's no real challenge and if it happens almost constantly, is it an event at all?

- Another thing about FW. Getting excellent gear isn't a pain in the *** like PWI, you can easily collect shards and get yourself an awesome set. Refining isn't a pain in the *** and fairly cheap. And I'm saying this as a noob who does not have any high lvl main to help with coins. What is considered excellent gear now in FW will someday be comparable to the blue junk gear you get from quests in PWI, high level refines and epically sharded gear is still expensive as hell, they just give you a free +4 or +5 to make you feel special, if it's free then it is the base level.....

- Mounts, another pain in the *** in PWI, you can either buy them with gold or spend 2m on a horse, 1m if you buy from another player (which most lvl +40 don't have ) But I managed to get a decent rep mount on FW, and I didn't grind for it. I just had the coins for it when it was available at lvl 30. Level 30 rep mount = level 30 free flyer in PWI (what level 40 in PWI doesn't have at least a base flyer?), wait a year for the fast mounts to come out and tell me that the free rep mount is a good reason to play..... Ground mounts in PWI are not required, they are a luxury item.......In FW there are limited ways to move from one part of the map to another, you cannot double-jump or fly at all (in some places a small stone or log will totally prevent you from moving)..... but to solve these problems they just made 95% of the mobs non-agressive anyway, so you can just auto-route anywhere...... through masses of lobotomized mobs that share about 20 different skins.......

-Queue system, a brilliant idea that I think PWI should adopt, you don't have to waste 2 hrs looking for a full squad with barb and cleric. Everything is automatic. Including the automatic completion of the instance because everything is also incredibly easy (read: not challenging).

This is just what I think

Obviously just my opinions, take them with whatever seasoning you feel appropriate.

But if you are comparing uber-geared endgame character's costs, I have a feeling FW would come out the most expensive after all the refining/socketing of gear, mastery/resistance training etc.

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

Zarni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Forsaken World is just a stripped down hybrid of a few other pieces of junk. PWE didn't spend any money to make it, I wouldn't recommend spending any to play.
It has some good points, but very few. Maybe, but I find it pretty fun, so I don't really care where it came from.

Level cap was 80 in PWI originally, look for it to go up in FW as well as more speed leveling options. That's when developers decide to ruin games, yes

The weapon and armor crafting systems are highly annoying, although most people use the armor you can farm from the mini-bosses and weapons dropped from dungeons anyway. I haven't tried weapon/armor crafting yet since I'm not at that lvl. But I was talking about potions which bothered the person I replied to.

All the different cooking/alchemy that is available is just another way to fill up your inventory making you want to buy more space, too many blatant marketing schemes and too little fun to do...... You do realize that stash box gives you a lot of safe/box extension stones? I don't find any problem in space.

Who cares about spamming? It's just less fun when there are only 4-5 things you can do other than auto-attack. Also, PWI classes either have an auto-attack anyway or a couple spammable skills with very low mp cost, and most skills above the first basic ones have more effects than simple damage, so I think I missed the point of this comment..... Spark +auto attack, more fun? At least there isn't useless skills much, although I pretty much hate it that aoe skills are limited in FW. And think of the spammable skills you mentioned as your auto attack on a mage...

In fact you'll do very little mob killing at all after level 25-30..... just a bunch of errands for Henry, maybe chase some little girl around town a couple times or sell some bear livers......
oh, and don;t forget your cooking and alchemy lessons, cause you want your chance for rare recipies right?........... Don't people in PWI QQ about the number of mobs they gotta kill and rush to endgame because quests are boring? At least the rewards from the so called boring quests to you are worth it. But again, they are not obligatory, rare recipe? Who cares about them. To me, GT and 1 instance a day fill the desire for killing for me, I don't see why I should be getting more kill quests on normal.

Spamming right click on a fishing pole icon twice a day or running around on a boat that gets attacked 4 times a day patching holes and firing cannons was fun a few times, but there's no real challenge and if it happens almost constantly, is it an event at all? Doesn't everything get boring after you do it a million times?

What is considered excellent gear now in FW will someday be comparable to the blue junk gear you get from quests in PWI, high level refines and epically sharded gear is still expensive as hell, they just give you a free +4 or +5 to make you feel special, if it's free then it is the base level..... Again you're talking about what might happen, are you 100% sure? Yes? No? +4 base, I'm happy with it.

Level 30 rep mount = level 30 free flyer in PWI (what level 40 in PWI doesn't have at least a base flyer?), wait a year for the fast mounts to come out and tell me that the free rep mount is a good reason to play..... Ground mounts in PWI are not required, they are a luxury item.......In FW there are limited ways to move from one part of the map to another, you cannot double-jump or fly at all (in some places a small stone or log will totally prevent you from moving)..... but to solve these problems they just made 95% of the mobs non-agressive anyway, so you can just auto-route anywhere...... through masses of lobotomized mobs that share about 20 different skins....... The crappy free flyer that you get is not compared to the speed of a lets say 3 mps flyer that you can buy via the boutique. However, the rep mount is slightly slower than the mount in the boutique. But who said a mount is a must in FW too? Maps are small, teleportation within the map is free, and you can afk auto route.
You're sad because mobs are mostly non aggro? Really? And I don't see FW needing flyers, although I've heard a rumor about them coming as they are out in china version.

Including the automatic completion of the instance because everything is also incredibly easy (read: not challenging). I don't see the challenge in spending a lot of time trying to form a squad, more like...a waste of time.
And you're talking about easy? Isn't PWI becoming easy, hell, as a cleric I'm literally useless in a bh squad that has 2 or 3 aps players.....maybe a buff puppet. I'll trade easy for class balanceb:bye

I respect your opinion and I appreciate it. But as any game...we will all end up getting bored with it and roll to something else.

KaKabel - Harshlands · May 2011

The current level cap in FW is 80 in Chinese servers and after only a few months (because closed beta was so long) people have already started to find it boring and quit, compared to after 1+ years of PWI.

You need 2k diamonds + to reach maximum Mastery/resistance (which is the biggest money sink in game) but useless (or why would you unless you're rich irl or won the lottery

) do it on pve servers?
Wrath (red hand) system was an attempt to balance cash shoppers vs non cash shoppers, but now you see people QQing about it being OP. (people may never be happy..)

I quite enjoyed FW, but yes i did get bored of the timed events. I miss sitting around chatting, dossing, not doing anything and not feel like ive missed out on chunks of exp because I didnt do Henry. <.<

Just my 2 cents as a quick reply from work

P.S: About class balance in FW, Mages are OP (be it Fire/wind or water - because they change bits in patches) (CS Fire/Light human mages are OP due to DOT/DPS, Light mages in arena is OP due to an AOE that takes away opponents mana, Water mages have an OP AOE at lvl 60 that 1/2 shots ppl)

Sins are still OP in gank/ 1v1 pk

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

KaKabel - Harshlands wrote: »

P.S: About class balance in FW, Mages are OP (be it Fire/wind or water - because they change bits in patches) (CS Fire/Light human mages are OP due to DOT/DPS, Light mages in arena is OP due to an AOE that takes away opponents mana, Water mages have an OP AOE at lvl 60 that 1/2 shots ppl)

Sins are still OP in gank/ 1v1 pk

Hmmm that's interesting, as I read mages saying that everyone pwns them in pvp, maybe they sucked. But don't wizards in pwi have instant seal and sleep? That's OP too. Not to mention psychics.
I didn't try sin myself as I shivered when I saw the class really lol (got that phobia from pwi) but the thing I noticed is that people on FW are not obsessed with them, but they are called assassins, they should be good pvp'ers just not like sins in pwi....Oh and the vampire skill that cancels stealth

That's kinda nerfing some of that OP'ness.
But can't really talk about pvp since I never pvp on pwi in the first place and don't care for it, hence the example I gave was in bhb:cute

KaKabel - Harshlands · May 2011

ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »

Hmmm that's interesting, as I read mages saying that everyone pwns them in pvp, maybe they sucked. But don't wizards in pwi have instant seal and sleep? That's OP too. Not to mention psychics.
I didn't try sin myself as I shivered when I saw the class really lol (got that phobia from pwi) but the thing I noticed is that people on FW are not obsessed with them, but they are called assassins, they should be good pvp'ers just not like sins in pwi....Oh and the vampire skill that cancels stealth That's kinda nerfing some of that OP'ness.
But can't really talk about pvp since I never pvp on pwi in the first place and don't care for it, hence the example I gave was in bhb:cute

Hehe it all comes down to the player too, FW does reward some skilled players

(the ones who do try to CC and run for orbs) but still limited to limitations of a F2P game (i.e Cash > ALL)
I lol'd at the sin comment xD, same here >< the sins in FW are very similar to PWI (/puke) and frankly, it also requires very little skill to be good at gank/ stealth 1v1 pk (only directed to those who do the aforementionned). Sins are meant to be good at 1v1 pvp so no comment on that on both games.

Feast has a long CD (the vamp skill you were talking about). Some AOEs by other classes also takes sins out of stealth. (but sins have 2 stealths xD)

Sins are still OP in BOI and FW because they have since changed the EVA/ACC formula, EVA is very OP in FW, even mages stack eva. lolz

I havn't pvp'ed much on pwi too but did alot on FW, i like pvp and have heard enough of both QQ's and bragging in both games, tbh, enjoy what you do, if you are happy with playing/spending (whatever) do it. Just don't regret after (spending) or whinge if you don't, (Iv spent too much in BOI - because I was addicted to pets) but i dont regret it, I was happy in spending (amount) that month instead of clubbing/drinking.

Do what makes you happy, its a game, games are for leisure. (I found most ppl on FW very stressed ><)

N.B. I miss zhen parties and doing instances slowly and messing about instead of rushing through everything. (Might be a new generation Y_Y gosh i feel old..)

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

KaKabel - Harshlands wrote: »

Hehe it all comes down to the player too, FW does reward some skilled players (the ones who do try to CC and run for orbs) but still limited to limitations of a F2P game (i.e Cash > ALL)
I lol'd at the sin comment xD, same here >< the sins in FW are very similar to PWI (/puke) and frankly, it also requires very little skill to be good at gank/ stealth 1v1 pk (only directed to those who do the aforementionned). Sins are meant to be good at 1v1 pvp so no comment on that on both games.

Feast has a long CD (the vamp skill you were talking about). Some AOEs by other classes also takes sins out of stealth. (but sins have 2 stealths xD)

Sins are still OP in BOI and FW because they have since changed the EVA/ACC formula, EVA is very OP in FW, even mages stack eva. lolz

I havn't pvp'ed much on pwi too but did alot on FW, i like pvp and have heard enough of both QQ's and bragging in both games, tbh, enjoy what you do, if you are happy with playing/spending (whatever) do it. Just don't regret after (spending) or whinge if you don't, (Iv spent too much in BOI - because I was addicted to pets) but i dont regret it, I was happy in spending (amount) that month instead of clubbing/drinking.

Do what makes you happy, its a game, games are for leisure. (I found most ppl on FW very stressed ><)

N.B. I miss zhen parties and doing instances slowly and messing about instead of rushing through everything. (Might be a new generation Y_Y gosh i feel old..)

Yup, it's all gaming, gotta enjoy it! And no game is 100% perfect (perfect world entertainment, ironic e.e) That's why I play both XD
And true, feast has a long cooldown but at least I have something

-thinks cancel stealth skill in pwi would be kinda neat, but I dare to dream-

KaKabel - Harshlands · May 2011

But tbh i think the support in PWI by PWE is actually better than their counterparts/newer games, (only judging by patch updates and forum activity mind you) and as a F2P, I can't really complain - I've played too many xD (FW not included in the "support" comment atm cos still new)

To be OP in FW (Proven in CN servers): Roll a sin (more recent due to newest patches/tweaks in skills across game), or (previously done) roll a kindred mage, cash shop to high heavens and get lvl 3 wings (all lvl 4 gems in all sockets), Masteries and resistences to max lvl (costs 2k diamonds), not to mention fortifying gear (but thats not as bad). Get gear with 2 bonus stats as evasion then the extra 2 attributes re-identified as eva (so 4 extra eva stats)
Then kill some noobs for red hand, and you will be able to AOE and beat 60 vs 1 (already achieved by the biggest cash shopper in CN servers after just 6 months of CB and couple of months of OB - then they got bored and quit...lolz)

ILubby - Raging Tide · May 2011

KaKabel - Harshlands wrote: »

But tbh i think the support in PWI by PWE is actually better than their counterparts/newer games, (only judging by patch updates and forum activity mind you) and as a F2P, I can't really complain - I've played too many xD (FW not included in the "support" comment atm cos still new)

To be OP in FW (Proven in CN servers): Roll a sin (more recent due to newest patches/tweaks in skills across game), or (previously done) roll a kindred mage, cash shop to high heavens and get lvl 3 wings (all lvl 4 gems in all sockets), Masteries and resistences to max lvl (costs 2k diamonds), not to mention fortifying gear (but thats not as bad). Get gear with 2 bonus stats as evasion then the extra 2 attributes re-identified as eva (so 4 extra eva stats)
Then kill some noobs for red hand, and you will be able to AOE and beat 60 vs 1 (already achieved by the biggest cash shopper in CN servers after just 6 months of CB and couple of months of OB - then they got bored and quit...lolz)

I haven't tried customer support in FW, but if I wanna say that support in pwi is good? Mmm no..I have submitted a lot of tickets concerning bugs and harassments with proofs, but I felt I was dealing with a bot ._. they sent answers which are irrelevant to the problem I was mentioning. Or proofs that are impossible to get, like a corpse in cube entrance..

On the being OP, well pwi isn't any better....unless you grind like hell or do gold trading, which I find boring ._. I haven't tried merchanting yet in fw but seems lil complicated to dig in advance lol, we will see (im lazy)

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