Do you prefer VIT or DEF for seeker?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary
Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
edited May 2011 in Seeker
Do you prefer VIT or DEF for sharding, or a mix of both.

VIT (+10)= Primeval/Savant
DEF(+1,+2)=Diamond of dragon/Jade of steady defense

Assuming that it is endgear or near that =o
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I am really thinking -def shards- over vit, namely because of our buff line.. mainly to mitigate the bonuses nirvana/r9 gives, with our base defs buff we could easlity mitigate them.

    Also, im seeing it being very popular that people shard +attck....so.
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  • obliviondemon
    obliviondemon Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    umm i prefare def it is the best for the seeker
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    This is more a question of sharding.
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  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Defence, preferably +2
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I would go with vit or attack levels. Seekers already have free defense levels.
    /quit.

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  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    *Waiting for R9 to be implemented for Earthguards :3*
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    vit. even sharding JoSD with sage adrenal and a full r9 set wont balance out all the attack levels. then you are left in a somewhat squishy state.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    vit. even sharding JoSD with sage adrenal and a full r9 set wont balance out all the attack levels. then you are left in a somewhat squishy state.
    if your a seeker it would raise your DEF lv to 101 tho (for R9)

    im think im personally gonna try goin with DEF as opposed to VIT
    full JoSD
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Def lvl also covers more mag defense, Going VIt would give you nice HPs.. and even more physical defense.. But you will be super squishy to a magic attack, esspecially if they have attack lvl + shards + r9 bonus. Def sharding would significantly decrease damage from all around..
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    vit. even sharding JoSD with sage adrenal and a full r9 set wont balance out all the attack levels. then you are left in a somewhat squishy state.

    What, you plan to fight only full R9 players?

    Nvmd, go VIT, less demand for DoD.
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/217e4c2c618c7107


    R9 Build^^

    i have asterelle's site bookmarked for what shards were best....but i guess it's no longer there b:cry


    anyway, from what the shard calc said with full +10 R9 you would do best to have 4 vit and the rest jades. at +12 full jades is better.

    basically, the higher you HP is, the better the jade becomes.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Trawne - Lost City wrote: »
    i have asterelle's site bookmarked for what shards were best....but i guess it's no longer there b:cry

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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Why is everyone obsessed with defense? You will never tank as much as a barb. Seeker barely has any reliable stuns. So they need more killing power.
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why is everyone obsessed with defense? You will never tank as much as a barb. Seeker barely has any reliable stuns. So they need more killing power.

    Who said anyone want defense for tanking? o.o
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  • RawrGummy - Dreamweaver
    RawrGummy - Dreamweaver Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why is everyone obsessed with defense? You will never tank as much as a barb. Seeker barely has any reliable stuns. So they need more killing power.

    > Seeker barely has any reliable stuns
    > Less stun-locking by you
    > More stun-locking by your opponent
    > Need defense to survive stuns
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  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Check my sig or the wiki/Community Tools for the new web host.

    thanks :D b:cute
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  • HeavensRage - Raging Tide
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Vit is statistically better, we get great returns for Vit. Defense levels are severely overrated.
  • HeavensRage - Raging Tide
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    Def lvl also covers more mag defense, Going VIt would give you nice HPs.. and even more physical defense.. But you will be super squishy to a magic attack, esspecially if they have attack lvl + shards + r9 bonus. Def sharding would significantly decrease damage from all around..

    I think you're a little confused as to what each stat does...
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I think you're a little confused as to what each stat does...

    I don't think you get the idea of what 1% overall damage/defense is.
    re
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    I don't think you get the idea of what 1% overall damage/defense is.

    Is everyone on raging tide a vit tanker? :D Re i think i am on the wrong server.b:cry
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RawrGummy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    > Seeker barely has any reliable stuns
    > Less stun-locking by you
    > More stun-locking by your opponent
    > Need defense to survive stuns

    No amount of defense will save you from a r9 sin. The best you can do is kill them before they stun you. The only way psychic's can work with defense levels is because the opponent gets sealed for every 2-3 hits they do.
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  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No amount of defense will save you from a r9 sin. The best you can do is kill them before they stun you. The only way psychic's can work with defense levels is because the opponent gets sealed for every 2-3 hits they do.

    if thats true then no amount of vit will save you either. if both are true why shard at all? b:puzzled

    if you are looking to be the hardest to kill, you need to look at your EFFECTIVE HP.

    once you have 13k-14k HP (without shards), Jades give you more EHP than vit stones.
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  • _Ghostz_ - Archosaur
    _Ghostz_ - Archosaur Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No amount of defense will save you from a r9 sin. The best you can do is kill them before they stun you. The only way psychic's can work with defense levels is because the opponent gets sealed for every 2-3 hits they do.

    I'm sorry but youre sounding completely and severely **** so I'm going to put this in a way you could understand.

    5.0 sin combo= headhunt-triple spark- auto attack and they are usually dead at the end of the couple secs, if not then it's immobilize and silence stun combo and then ur dead...

    How the h*LL are you gonna kill the sin before he stuns you when his first skill outta stealth will always be *surprise* a stun! That's right, you dont.

    The high shard of def levels cancels out the sins high attack levels for one so it's virtually a 0-0 battle, the sin defenses are simple pitiful (most likely shards Att levels) and the seeker would have more hp than the sin most likely due to refines in a endgame battle as well as the seeker still having a decent Att level bonus and his DPH skills

    Virtually the def levels are setting it so the sin doesn't kill the seeker before he can get out of the stunlock, and 2-3 shot him.. Thus Ending the "almighty sin."
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  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    STR and VIT both raise defense so... this should be pretty easy to figure out.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Vit is statistically better, we get great returns for Vit. Defense levels are severely overrated.

    Not really, but I'm too lazy to explain.
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »
    STR and VIT both raise physical defense so... this should be pretty easy to figure out.

    fixed. defense levels and physical defense are NOT the same.

    also, the amount they add is very minor.
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    While that is true, you'd need alot more d.level than the standard 30%(defense lvl 30 from normal adrenal numbness).
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    _Ghostz_ - Archosaur wrote: »
    I'm sorry but youre sounding completely and severely **** so I'm going to put this in a way you could understand.

    5.0 sin combo= headhunt-triple spark- auto attack and they are usually dead at the end of the couple secs, if not then it's immobilize and silence stun combo and then ur dead...
    ."

    ehm yah, every1 now a days uses occult ice on genie, at least on DW server they do.

    i have badge of courage on my genie, if sin stuns me right away when he goes out of stealth i hit that skill and run

    really easy to do . recomend it to all kyters
  • _Ghostz_ - Archosaur
    _Ghostz_ - Archosaur Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Skippy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ehm yah, every1 now a days uses occult ice on genie, at least on DW server they do.

    i have badge of courage on my genie, if sin stuns me right away when he goes out of stealth i hit that skill and run

    really easy to do . recomend it to all kyters

    True but help me out because i havent been in game for about a year now, does Occult Ice override Maze Step now because it didnt use to and well it lasts for 10 secs which would be plenty of time to drop classes pretty easily.
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  • QuakeX - Lost City
    QuakeX - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    end game def>hp

    i shard all sap lol, cos i cnt afford deflv2.

    i have 10,1k mdef n 11.5kpdef with ep buff 39attlv 37deflv

    and 8.5k hp unbuff.

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