New old server pls!!

Negreiros - Sanctuary
Negreiros - Sanctuary Posts: 113 Arc User
edited May 2011 in General Discussion
Is there any chance you guys create a new server with the first version released here in nd pwi,please?b:pleased

that would be a nice way to show new people how was the game on its beggining...



i mean...everything like in first version,
only old events(old jungle ruins,arena,no flying on TWs...)
only original 3 races
even the boutique would have the same itens that there were back then[ few clothes ,few mounts,few flyers...]



suggestion name for server : Museum Server
PS: if there is enought people voting "yes" ,you guys GMs,devs,mods(i have no idea who would do it =P) would consider doing it?

edit:i didnt put a NO option cuz i like to troll the trolls =)
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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    don't post any more, your post count is 69 and that's good.

    Also this idea won't work, the big problem is the economy and it will just be the same, as for old events, fair enough :/
  • ColdSnow - Dreamweaver
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver Posts: 983 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    The server would be dead, cause noone likes to do justice quests after lvl60. some people would miss their genie (yeah i love my holy).

    PS: Where is the NO option.
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  • HellWariorB - Raging Tide
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If u want old PWI go to a private server and see how it is
  • Negreiros - Sanctuary
    Negreiros - Sanctuary Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Pytharia - Lost City wrote: »
    don't post any more, your post count is 69 and that's good.

    Also this idea won't work, the big problem is the economy and it will just be the same, as for old events, fair enough :/

    Once its implemented it have already worked, its suposed to SHOW people how the game was...
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  • Negreiros - Sanctuary
    Negreiros - Sanctuary Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If u want old PWI go to a private server and see how it is

    i have been on privates , i thought i would see the past there, but then i saw g17,g18 itens and even a motorcycle as mounts(ops)
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  • Negreiros - Sanctuary
    Negreiros - Sanctuary Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The server would be dead, cause noone likes to do justice quests after lvl60. some people would miss their genie (yeah i love my holy).

    PS: Where is the NO option.

    i love to do it, ur argment is invalid.
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  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    why post 3 times in a row? you know you can edit your posts, put them all together, less spam.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Considering that PWE pretty much ****ed up the previous two new server introductions by putting on Oracle and Hyper sales is pretty much proof that they just cannot put up a new server while fully intending to cash on the fact that a bucketload of hopefuls will spam hypers and oracles in hope of being on the top of the server.

    So something like this would never happen. Especially not since it'd not generate any sales, as you couldn't put in anything as it'd ruin the whole point. So it'd just be a big minus. Not to mention that it'd also act as negative PR for PWE itself as it'd pretty much show how bad the game has turned.

    So why not just tell them to take up shotguns and shoot their own feet while you're at it?
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Where's the 'No' option ? b:cute
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    >_> i think the OP should become Amish. Live like it's 1800 again. Because that's what this poll suggests...
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  • Drazomyst - Dreamweaver
    Drazomyst - Dreamweaver Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Biased poll is biased. b:chuckle
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  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    SylenThunder - Twilight Temple Posts: 7,908
    edited May 2011
    1. your poll fails.

    2. go play a private server
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  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1. your poll fails.

    2. go play a private server

    ^ This b:bye
    Madness?

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  • nakhtuul
    nakhtuul Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    For those who say go play a private server, show me 1 private server that does not have insane drop rates, insta-level 100+, and is heavily populated.

    Thing is this: If old version came out on 1 server, with no packs, no BH, no fish or worm people...old PWI gamers would flock to it like flies to piles of poo.

    And for the record, people def. bought things on old version. The hard way of doing things requires more farming, more charm **** and spending more time on the game. When people spend more time on the game, they are more likely to purchase boutique items because it makes them feel it is worth the money spent, if they are spending a good amount of time and effort playing the game.

    I know for a fact, that several thousand people would go to that server, even if it was purely for the nostalgia. And more than likely, people would leave their other characters with cash shop, r8-9 gear on other servers to spend more time on the 'old version' server.

    Honestly, it would be something different for a gaming company to do, and would help PWE stand out from the rest.

    I voted yes, ofc.

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  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    nakhtuul wrote: »
    For those who say go play a private server, show me 1 private server that does not have insane drop rates, insta-level 100+, and is heavily populated.

    Thing is this: If old version came out on 1 server, with no packs, no BH, no fish or worm people...old PWI gamers would flock to it like flies to piles of poo.

    And for the record, people def. bought things on old version. The hard way of doing things requires more farming, more charm **** and spending more time on the game. When people spend more time on the game, they are more likely to purchase boutique items because it makes them feel it is worth the money spent, if they are spending a good amount of time and effort playing the game.

    I know for a fact, that several thousand people would go to that server, even if it was purely for the nostalgia. And more than likely, people would leave their other characters with cash shop, r8-9 gear on other servers to spend more time on the 'old version' server.

    Honestly, it would be something different for a gaming company to do, and would help PWE stand out from the rest.

    I voted yes, ofc.

    ^ This +9000. Idk about the several thousand people part, but I'd leave my 11 toons to go to it. For good.

    Also, the way people think/talk nowadays, it's amazing that the game was ever free to play??... Yeah, it must have been really hard back then, what with the execs and devs and gm's all living together in one apartment, hosting the game from some second-hand scrapped-together machines and doing tweaks and updates late at night when they got home from their second job delivering Chinese food.... back in the old days when there was "nothing in the boutique", etc... Suuuuure.

    It was released as a f2p, it didn't turn into one. You think they did it like that out of the kindness of their hearts? Lol no. They already had a successful business. Do the math new people, the game you see today represents pure greed.
  • ColdSnow - Dreamweaver
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver Posts: 983 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    nakhtuul wrote: »
    For those who say go play a private server, show me 1 private server that does not have insane drop rates, insta-level 100+, and is heavily populated.

    Thing is this: If old version came out on 1 server, with no packs, no BH, no fish or worm people...old PWI gamers would flock to it like flies to piles of poo.

    And for the record, people def. bought things on old version. The hard way of doing things requires more farming, more charm **** and spending more time on the game. When people spend more time on the game, they are more likely to purchase boutique items because it makes them feel it is worth the money spent, if they are spending a good amount of time and effort playing the game.

    I know for a fact, that several thousand people would go to that server, even if it was purely for the nostalgia. And more than likely, people would leave their other characters with cash shop, r8-9 gear on other servers to spend more time on the 'old version' server.

    Honestly, it would be something different for a gaming company to do, and would help PWE stand out from the rest.

    I voted yes, ofc.

    i would reroll on this kind of server but when we had genies and only once or twice a day bh after lvl60. Cause seriously it is borring after lvl60 doing only justice quests.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    i like the idea... but the more i think about it, the more i remember the 8+hrs of daily grinding in the same spot, for several days, on nearly same mobs, from lv60s to 95.... the leveling gave you a feel of accomplishment but hell.................im not sure if i wanna repeat that again.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1. your poll fails.

    2. go play Hello Kitty's Super Wonderful Adventures Part 3

    Fixed it for you.
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
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  • FiDollaYou - Sanctuary
    FiDollaYou - Sanctuary Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    nakhtuul wrote: »
    For those who say go play a private server, show me 1 private server that does not have insane drop rates, insta-level 100+, and is heavily populated.

    Thing is this: If old version came out on 1 server, with no packs, no BH, no fish or worm people...old PWI gamers would flock to it like flies to piles of poo.

    And for the record, people def. bought things on old version. The hard way of doing things requires more farming, more charm **** and spending more time on the game. When people spend more time on the game, they are more likely to purchase boutique items because it makes them feel it is worth the money spent, if they are spending a good amount of time and effort playing the game.

    I know for a fact, that several thousand people would go to that server, even if it was purely for the nostalgia. And more than likely, people would leave their other characters with cash shop, r8-9 gear on other servers to spend more time on the 'old version' server.

    Honestly, it would be something different for a gaming company to do, and would help PWE stand out from the rest.

    I voted yes, ofc.

    You're probably right. A couple of thousand people would probably go start a toon on the new server. Then, after a month or so (depending on how much the nostalgia *really* means to them), the server would be a ghost town after people realize how much they've come to depend on everything available in the game now. Then, if they *do* keep it running, try to imagine how *little* attention would be given this server by the devs.

    "Nostalgia" servers are nice in theory, but I've never seen one work out in a production environment.
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Fixed it for you.

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  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    To OP: That is too late for that... It will never happen. Devs and GMs will not care about that kind of matters anyway (and there are bigger problems to solve right now). 'Museum server', seriously? Why not 'Jurassic PWI'?
    By the way, your poll is not good enough.

    And so I cannot take your thread seriously.

    P.S.: Maybe was I too harsh there. I guess your idea is not bad, really, but it would be impractical and I would not want to start anew. I have reluctantly learned to not care about the state of game economy and what others think. I just go my way, slowly... And since matters like packs, gold rate or being the best around do not matter to me anymore, an old-school server means nothing to me anymore.

    P.P.S.: 'How the game was in the beginning'... I am sad to say most people won't care at all. If people really cared, there would be not so much of a self-centred, greedy and egoistical part of the game community... And I wonder if the total spending numbers would be lower (both in total number and volume per capita). Packs may have been very damaging to the game's economy, but they sure brought tons of revenues to PWE... And bear the fact, it's the only latter point that counts for the game makers (otherwise they would not have let that mess get rampant for so long and to this extent).

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  • Troller - Sanctuary
    Troller - Sanctuary Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Bias poll is Bias. I would argue about it if I wouldn't choose "yes" anyways.
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  • nakhtuul
    nakhtuul Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    FiDollaYou - Sanctuary wrote: »

    "Nostalgia" servers are nice in theory, but I've never seen one work out in a production environment.

    Show me a production environment (especially in the gaming industry), where 'nostalgia servers' were even implemented and tested out?

    Nostalgia products are consistently re-released, with proper marketing, and become a re-immediate success. The clothes you wear, the fashion you follow? Its re-hashed, nostalgic **** that was marketed and repackaged.

    IJS.....I'd like to see PWE entertain this idea, they may be surprised at how much money they would make.

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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    nakhtuul wrote: »
    Show me a production environment (especially in the gaming industry), where 'nostalgia servers' were even implemented and tested out?

    Nostalgia products are consistently re-released, with proper marketing, and become a re-immediate success. The clothes you wear, the fashion you follow? Its re-hashed, nostalgic **** that was marketed and repackaged.

    IJS.....I'd like to see PWE entertain this idea, they may be surprised at how much money they would make.

    EverQuest... legends server...

    fail
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  • VeonitaMysti - Dreamweaver
    VeonitaMysti - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I would like a server like that.
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  • FiDollaYou - Sanctuary
    FiDollaYou - Sanctuary Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    EverQuest... legends server...

    fail

    This. Sony actually tried it twice. First was a relative success (from the point of view of players that actually played on it long term) *only* because it "caught up" with the rest of the servers in terms of expansions rather quickly.

    Even the private servers that tried to replicate the original game couldn't buy a crowd.

    Part of the problem is that if you poll 100 people who want a "nostalgia" server, you'll get at least 50 different answers as to how far back they should go. Release day? after the addition of XXX feature? So, even among the subset of players that want to go back in time (probably a small minority of overall player-base), anything PWE chooses for a point in time will leave most unhappy.

    The cash shop is an additional complication, as no F2P game is EVER going to release a server that doesn't make the cash shop available. If you again poll those 100 players to determine what should and should not be available, you'll get 100 different answers.
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    It was released as a f2p, it didn't turn into one. You think they did it like that out of the kindness of their hearts? Lol no. They already had a successful business. Do the math new people, the game you see today represents pure greed.

    It was released as a P2P game which ended up failing, this game used to have housing for players which got took out when it came off P2P, it went F2P of course to try get the game going again with the cash shop, greed slowly came into the cash shop with the stupid invention of mp/hp charms and not giving us any "worth while non stupidly expensive" pots, till of course the event pots that came from packs, in which again they saw more greed and etc etc, we already know how greedy this game is in general, shamefully the devs don't care.
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  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It was released as a P2P game which ended up failing, this game used to have housing for players which got took out when it came off P2P, it went F2P of course to try get the game going again with the cash shop, greed slowly came into the cash shop with the stupid invention of mp/hp charms and not giving us any "worth while non stupidly expensive" pots, till of course the event pots that came from packs, in which again they saw more greed and etc etc, we already know how greedy this game is in general, shamefully the devs don't care.

    I'm referring specifically to PWI, not PW-CN or MY, I don't know anything about them. Point being when the US servers went up, it was already a working, profitable business, and it was F2P. If it wasn't, it would have never expanded overseas in the first place. The way some new players defend the cash shop nowadays is like there wouldn't be a game without 6 different kinds of packs constantly on sale. That's just not true, not even close.

    Yes I was here, and I remember the greed slowly coming into the cash shop. That's another good point, it came SLOWLY. So slowly in fact that I for one could not see the full scope of what exactly would change in the future. I have no issue with the cash shop, or players that cash shop. I understand there are salaries to be paid and the business needs to make a profit and grow.

    Back before packs were introduced, SOME things actually got fixed, and there wasn't something new added to the cash shop every freaking week. The lvl 25 Jiaozis and Yuanxiaos were fine, people still went to TW and had a blast.

    And yes, NOW we know the devs don't care, and NOW we know the true extent of the greed... indeed.

    Anyways back on topic LOL

    Renza, do you want a nostalgia server? b:cute
  • FiDollaYou - Sanctuary
    FiDollaYou - Sanctuary Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    Anyways back on topic LOL

    Renza, do you want a nostalgia server? b:cute

    Please define for us exactly what *you* mean by a nostalgia server. To which exact point in the game's evolution do you want to revert (game version number if possible). Keeping in mind that the server would most likely stay at that point until they shut it down - no development, no new content, no bug fixes, no changes.

    I can almost guarantee that you have a different definition than the OP has. And any third person that wants it will have an opinion different from both of yours.

    That's one of the problems with a nostalgia server - everyone is nostalgic for something slightly different, and the chances of pleasing even a majority, much less everyone, is vanishingly small.

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