Am i doing it right?

http://pwcalc.com/3a0bcc3735f16d59My sin at lvl 60 :P I messed up..b:shocked

Pytharia - Lost City wrote: »

I understand this isn't the sin forum but this isn't a question about sins, it's about my math and my calculation of aps.

If these are the hypothetical build: Darth Death Thorn - Catastrophe Stinger

I don't know the proc of SS, but i'm using 15% (if it's more or less correct me please)

Dark Death Thorn
((26076+21354)/2)=23715
23715*1.59=37706.85
37706.85*1.15=43362.88
43362.88*5APS = 216814.4 per second

Catastrophe Stinger
((25889+21879)/2)=23884
23884*1.89=45140.76
45140.76*1.15=51911.87
51911.87*4APS = 207647.5 per second

I suck at math so theirs a huge chance i messed up, but... is this right?

Um, you're completely ignoring crits there.

Adding crits, you get:
DDT: 260,177 avg dps
R9: 249,176 avg dps

From here, it looks like DDT is better, but you have to notice that GoF has a higher proc rate, so that'll most likely put R9 ahead. For example, if you assumed 15% for SS and 30% for GoF, you'd get the following numbers:
DDT: 299,134 avg dps
R9: 323,928 avg dmg

If you were to factor in Wolf Emblem, it'd put R9 even more ahead of DDT because of the higher base DPH.

What about the +30 attack levels o.o??

Pytharia - Lost City wrote: »

I did that already when i did
"1.59*---"
"1.89*---"

I did that on purpose because i wanted to see which has the most aps

... I do hope that you mean "dps" and not "aps".

APS = Attacks Per Second
DPS = Damage Per Second

It's rather obvious that DDT will have a higher APS since it can spawn with -interval on it. Whether it has a higher DPS isn't necessarily guaranteed, though.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, i'm being a fool playing with "+12 calcs" but i always used to believe R9 had the best aps, without question and i wanted to test it.

Again, please tell me you mean "dps" and not "aps". Of course, if you just compare the numbers, it's easy to make a setup where Rank 9 looks bad. However, your comparison is at best questionable since you're favoring the other setup, not to mention that you're using a rather dreamy DDT as well.

Also, you have to consider other factors than just the DPS number.

For example, R9 will be a lot better in any AOE situation or any situation where you're more likely to use skills, such as TW.

Also, you're using the R9 ring for both setups. Of course at a "no cost accounted" comparison, this is valid, but you have to ask: would you really get the ring?

Similarly, your DDT is extremely dreamy. Do you really expect to ever land one such DDT? And if you do, do you expect that it'll be cheaper than the R9 dagger?

Also, the effort required to get such a DDT is much higher than getting the R9 dagger.

And finally, does any of it even matter? At the level you're comparing, there's nothing in PvE that could even be a bother. After all, we know that Cheze soloed Harpy Wraith. And the extra DPS you'd be gaining is pretty much pointless in PvP because you'd wtfpwn 99.99% of everything you could come across with either setup.

So even if, in theory, R9 isn't the best possible setup you can have, does that have any actual meaning? Because really, unless you are comparing such extremes, R9 will be superior to DDT. And that's all that matters to most people.

Again, i know i'm giving DDT amazing adds but i disagree with me putting almost all the advantage on them, they both have the same armour, i just ultimately want to know which has better dps because i always thought R9 was the "no question about it" end game daggers.

You're not only giving DDT amazing adds, you're also:
1. Adding Jones' Blessing to both setups which dulls the attack level advantage R9 has
2. Adding R9 ring to both setups, which is unrealistic and dulls the advantage of R9
3. You're sharding full DoTs on a Demon sin, which again dulls the effect of the attack levels on R9

And hey, it doesn't really matter. Saying "Yeah, if you have a 100% perfect DDT, plus every other piece of gear, it's the best weapon in the game" doesn't actually matter to a majority of all people.