All 'sins faction for TW.
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I don't know if this has been discussed already, I used the search function but couldn't find anything related.
Just imagine 80 invisible enemies in TW...80 'sins headhunting left and right, dropping your defenses, obliterating your crystal, while also possesing the absolute defense themselves - stealth.
Feel free to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of such a faction, especially one filled with level 100+ 'sins. Think they could take the map ?
Just imagine 80 invisible enemies in TW...80 'sins headhunting left and right, dropping your defenses, obliterating your crystal, while also possesing the absolute defense themselves - stealth.
Feel free to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of such a faction, especially one filled with level 100+ 'sins. Think they could take the map ?
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If they we're all r9+12 sure. Otherwise, no. A single wiz could probably take them all out while they're busy with the crystal or a tower./quit.
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get veno buffs on every member of the faction they're fighting against and let them **** themselves.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »If they we're all r9+12 sure. Otherwise, no. A single wiz could probably take them all out while they're busy with the crystal or a tower.
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I'd want to see that just for the names. I'd love to see a faction called the Seven Deadly Sins (obviously consisting of only seven members lol), but they're all overpowered rank nine monstrosities.. their names would be "Sin After Sin", "Original Sin", "Ultimate Sin".. basically what I'm saying is I want to see a faction devoted to making puns off the word "sin" as it pertains to religion.0
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Get the wizzes from behind ? b:scorn b:sinWTB>More Fash
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Lonzooo - Harshlands wrote: »get veno buffs on every member of the faction they're fighting against and let them **** themselves.
Good point. How about a scenario where a part of the sins use highly refined lunar bows to avoid bramble ?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »Good point. How about a scenario where a part of the sins use highly refined lunar bows to avoid bramble ?
hmm then they have to leave stealth and cant stun, makes them squishy and easy to kill (i mean, ya if they have +12 and rank 9 stuff not really easy, but lets assume the fac the're fighting has about the same gear)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Lonzooo - Harshlands wrote: »hmm then they have to leave stealth and cant stun, makes them squishy and easy to kill (i mean, ya if they have +12 and rank 9 stuff not really easy, but lets assume the fac the're fighting has about the same gear)
Exactly. Let's also assume this 'sins faction is armed to the teeth with apoth, charms and most importantly, brains.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Would you like to see a TW with an all Assassin faction?
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_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »Would you like to see a TW with an all Assassin faction?
Overdose vs. CrimsonJr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZ9Qbq4WJc
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LOL omg so fun to see those sins kill themselves on bramble even after seeing the veno use hood b:laugh"Common sense isn't so common anymore." ~ Yusiong - Lost City
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_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »Would you like to see a TW with an all Assassin faction?
Overdose vs. CrimsonJr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZ9Qbq4WJc
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...Wow, that's just plain pathetic.Retired b:bye0 -
Yea me a smart fishy i see bramble hood pop im outta there till its gone >.> **** 1shotting my self id rather live to fight again xD
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Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »I don't know if this has been discussed already, I used the search function but couldn't find anything related.
Just imagine 80 invisible enemies in TW...80 'sins headhunting left and right, dropping your defenses, obliterating your crystal, while also possesing the absolute defense themselves - stealth.
Feel free to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of such a faction, especially one filled with level 100+ 'sins. Think they could take the map ?
My guild actually fought one of these and someone filmed.
I hope the duration of the video and the sheer footage teach you a lesson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZ9Qbq4WJc
EDIT: Lulz a factionmate beat me to it. But yeah, one level 89 veno basically solo'ed the TW for us. I saw and killed one level 101-102 sin, everyone else was basically killed by that veno.I
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_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »Would you like to see a TW with an all Assassin faction?
Overdose vs. CrimsonJr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZ9Qbq4WJc
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Unless if they had far superior gear, then they would get *****. If the other guilds gear is even close, they stand no chance.
I'd be way more scared of a guild of 80 psychics[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »I don't know if this has been discussed already, I used the search function but couldn't find anything related.
Just imagine 80 invisible enemies in TW...80 'sins headhunting left and right, dropping your defenses, obliterating your crystal, while also possesing the absolute defense themselves - stealth.
Feel free to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of such a faction, especially one filled with level 100+ 'sins. Think they could take the map ?Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »But first that wiz would have to be alive.
Wizard, "I cant see anything! I dont know what to attack!"
Cleric to guild sin, "Lets all just huddle around the towers."
Guild sin, "Theres a sin," *signals psy* "and theres a sin," *signals psy* "and there's a sin *signals psy*...
Archer, "Theres a catapult." *fires STA*
Barb, "Charge!!" *uses beastial onslaught* exposes cata sin*
Blademaster, "YEARGH!!!!" *roar*
Wizard, "Death to the infedels!!!!" *Bids*
All sin faction leader, "there's GOT to be a way we can cloak the catapult."0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Unless if they had far superior gear, then they would get *****. If the other guilds gear is even close, they stand no chance.
I'd be way more scared of a guild of 80 psychics
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wow thats hilarious >.>_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »Would you like to see a TW with an all Assassin faction?
Overdose vs. CrimsonJr
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wait a guild of 80 psy's all r8 or higher ._.Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Unless if they had far superior gear, then they would get *****. If the other guilds gear is even close, they stand no chance.
I'd be way more scared of a guild of 80 psychics
OH HELL NO! *runs other direction*Cadeal - Dreamweaver wrote: »Wizard, "I cant see anything! I dont know what to attack!"
Cleric to guild sin, "Lets all just huddle around the towers."
Guild sin, "Theres a sin," *signals psy* "and theres a sin," *signals psy* "and there's a sin *signals psy*...
Archer, "Theres a catapult." *fires STA*
Barb, "Charge!!" *uses beastial onslaught* exposes cata sin*
Blademaster, "YEARGH!!!!" *roar*
Wizard, "Death to the infedels!!!!" *Bids*
All sin faction leader, "there's GOT to be a way we can cloak the catapult."
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Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Unless if they had far superior gear, then they would get *****. If the other guilds gear is even close, they stand no chance.
I'd be way more scared of a guild of 80 psychics
Those two towers that oneshot everyone around the spawn point? I think that an all Psy faction in TW could kill those towers. ^^
And 75 Psy's and 5 Barbs in one TW, against whatever else, would be, by far, pure and unbridled ownage. Especially if they're all R8 +8 or higher. They would just faceroll their way through the other faction's catas, to the other factions base. Then, they would just wipe the entire faction, all at once, over and over. It would be so unfair...
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people forget the usefulness of Badge of Courage and Fortify all sin faction sure... but they wouldn't last long enough on the crystal as you have to be near a cata in order to pull it... so you're stealthed... AOEs on the cata will kill you and everyone around in stealth....
sure they could kill but TW isn't about just killing so without a effective plan to hold a cata in the base a bunch of 1 class with no cleric buffs or anything else for that matter won't really matter...besides all it would take is 1 sin on the otherside being higher level than all of those sins and their "invisible strategy" would be exposed.0 -
Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »Just imagine 80 invisible enemies in TW...80 'sins headhunting left and right
A mass of drama over ego! b:chuckleMadness?
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Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »people forget the usefulness of Badge of Courage and Fortify all sin faction sure... but they wouldn't last long enough on the crystal as you have to be near a cata in order to pull it... so you're stealthed... AOEs on the cata will kill you and everyone around in stealth....
sure they could kill but TW isn't about just killing so without a effective plan to hold a cata in the base a bunch of 1 class with no cleric buffs or anything else for that matter won't really matter...besides all it would take is 1 sin on the otherside being higher level than all of those sins and their "invisible strategy" would be exposed.
Yeah, but then you come to Psys. I've seen a Psy pull a cata. And if one psy can more or less wipe an entire faction in TW, think of what 70+ psys could do in a TW. Strategy isn't really needed, you just repeatedly faceroll everyone so they can't kill you or the cata.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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I've thought about this before. There are two advantages a smart, all-sin faction could employ in a TW.
1) Sins can get catas to the enemy base unhindered. Yes, it can be done. If you fly at just the right speed above in front of the cata, no aoe will hit you. That means, the catas can make it to base. How long they can last inside base is another question altogether. With some well coordinate absolute domains, and maybe an ironguard, each cata could maybe be good for 30s. If this strategy of chipping away at enemy crystal was used, an all sin faction could eventually get crystal to 0.
2) Sins can stop enemy catapult pullers in their tracks via massive ganks from stealth. Call it suicide bombing if you will. 5, 10 or 15 assassins double spark, faction leader says the word, they all subsea strike & earthen rift at the same time. Number of suicide bombers would depend on the cata puller. Anything aside from the best of the best barbs caught inside death zone would die instantly; and if such a barb were the cata puller, 2 more seconds of dps from so many sins would finish the job. Yes, all of these sins would probably die, if somebody tries to pick up the cata again, another group of sins can do the same thing.
Hypothetically here's how I'd group the troops, assuming 4 catapults:
24 of the highest lvl sins assigned to 4 catapults. Each of the sins would have cata scrolls. For each squad you'd assign order, 1, 2, 3, etc. If puller 1 dies, 2 takes over. (Can a cata be picked up when in stealth?). When arriving at base, that same order would apply to when to use absolute domain when you are brought out of stealth.
Rest of sins would form the suicide bomb corps. 4 squads would watch lane B. 2 squads each would cover lane A and C, respectively. If all catapults are observed to be going up B, squads on A and C could fly over to assist. When a cata is spotted, the squads communicate to decide which squad divebombs the cata puller. After divebombing the cata puller, the sins in that squad would then go on to kill as many ppl as possible before being killed. The remaining 3 squads (if lane
or squad (A or C) would then decide if the enemy has few enough ppl left to kill, or whether to simply wait for somebody new to pick up their catapult, in which case the process can be repeated again.
As well, assassins can take down the enemy binding posts in a way that is impossible to stop. Stealth to post, triple spark, absolute domain, ironguard, post dead and nobody can do a damn thing about it.
Could it work? Maybe.
Will we ever get to test it? Unfortunately not, lol.
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Would never work.
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That would be why the catapult puller flies ;o[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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LOL at the TW video with stupid sins. Shes actually triple sparking on the venos Bramble Hood and 1 shots herself b:chuckle
All sin faction would fail in TW, im sure they score loads of kills but they will never be able to bring down the Chrystal. You need to stand next to the Crystal for a pretty long time with the cata to break down its massive hp. You need a tank with a lot of HP, defenses, immune skills and healers to stay alive in the center of enemy base while everyone is attacking you. There is no way you're gonna have 20-30 people standing on top of each other and chain Absolute Domain with the massive lag in TW.
Sins pulling a cata would get knocked out of stealth from aoe or towers some where outside or just entering base anyway, than get 2 shot. It doesn't matter if you fly lol. People still know you're there when they see the cata coming. Enemy factions assassins will be able to see you as well, its not like a sin can stay hidden with a huge cata following him.0 -
TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »LOL at the TW video with stupid sins. Shes actually triple sparking on the venos Bramble Hood and 1 shots herself b:chuckle
All sin faction would fail in TW, im sure they score loads of kills but they will never be able to bring down the Chrystal. You need to stand next to the Crystal for a pretty long time with the cata to break down its massive hp. You need a tank with a lot of HP, defenses, immune skills and healers to stay alive in the center of enemy base while everyone is attacking you. There is no way you're gonna have 20-30 people standing on top of each other and chain Absolute Domain with the massive lag in TW.
Sins pulling a cata would get knocked out of stealth from aoe or towers some where outside or just entering base anyway, than get 2 shot. It doesn't matter if you fly lol. People still know you're there when they see the cata coming. Enemy factions assassins will be able to see you as well, its not like a sin can stay hidden with a huge cata following him.
Now, it would be funny if the cata went invisible with the Sin. b:shutup101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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