The reason why PWI did not give you an endgame dungeon

CandyCorn - Raging Tide
CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
edited May 2011 in General Discussion
Because you'll just complain about it.."omg this dungeon sucks" " so glichty" " whats the point of this"...good gracious you guys complain about everything they give you. That is all
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  • Leolin - Dreamweaver
    Leolin - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Don't forget, people don't even consider lunar glade an end game dungeon, because it "isnt worth doing"
    Unless they made a new dungeon that dropped medals, people would probably never use it.
    And if it did the other half of the server would riot about the unfairness of it.
  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Don't forget, people don't even consider lunar glade an end game dungeon, because it "isnt worth doing"
    Unless they made a new dungeon that dropped medals, people would probably never use it.
    And if it did the other half of the server would riot about the unfairness of it.

    b:surrender people think they are untitled to new stuff and new much want to use the stuff they already have
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  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    What I'd like is a non copy and pasted dungeon + mobs for a tiny bit of exp per daily run, what would be nice is perhaps giving just what the dungeon lacks, a money making dungeon so the non-csers can make some easy cash without having to find TT squads and such at low levels, which is hard unless you're in a good guild or simply have a lot of friends online.

    Either way, it would be nice if they simply made a quest, even for the pointless dungeon we have now, that when you kill the final boss and perhaps kill x amount of mobs in there, you get some more bonus exp and perhaps even 100k coins or something depending on level or what ever, of course GM's will never read this or care enough to mention such an idea to the devs.
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There's no new endgame dungeon because their is no new gear.

    Real endgame on any game is pvp whether you like it or not.
    /quit.

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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    What I'd like is a non copy and pasted dungeon + mobs for a tiny bit of exp per daily run, what would be nice is perhaps giving just what the dungeon lacks, a money making dungeon so the non-csers can make some easy cash without having to find TT squads and such at low levels, which is hard unless you're in a good guild or simply have a lot of friends online.

    What do you propose in a coins dungeon. anything too easy will be over farmed and price of whatever drops will drop. anything too hard and no one except the top geared can farm it. anything in the middle (aka nirvana) is not good enough for you. and in order for you to make money... someone has to be willing to buy whatever you are selling.
    Either way, it would be nice if they simply made a quest, even for the pointless dungeon we have now, that when you kill the final boss and perhaps kill x amount of mobs in there, you get some more bonus exp and perhaps even 100k coins or something depending on level or what ever, of course GM's will never read this or care enough to mention such an idea to the devs.

    lets see... a quest for existing dungeons where you have to kill x amount of mobs and the final boss for exp. i wonder if that could be refering to trophy mode. oh wait... you are not geared enough for trophy mode.
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  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    What do you propose in a coins dungeon. anything too easy will be over farmed and price of whatever drops will drop. anything too hard and no one except the top geared can farm it. anything in the middle (aka nirvana) is not good enough for you. and in order for you to make money... someone has to be willing to buy whatever you are selling.

    Erm, clearly you didn't understand what I was trying to say, I don't even no why you quoted this bit separately, as you need both to understand anyway...

    lets see... a quest for existing dungeons where you have to kill x amount of mobs and the final boss for exp. i wonder if that could be refering to trophy mode. oh wait... you are not geared enough for trophy mode.

    I never said only to get exp for killing the mobs and final boss did I? if you read the top bit of what you quoted again and then the bottom, fully, you will get it, what the idea was, was for handing in the quest for the main purpose of getting coins, the exp was just a lil bonus hence why I said bonus.

    I'd like to think it would be a decent bit of money for lower levels getting started in this game, especially for getting there skills as we all remember being newbies, we can't say that It would **** the economy up now can we, I think the several thousand+ packs being opened a day would say otherwise anyway.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Lol, OP is complaining about complainers.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Lol, OP is complaining about complainers.

    Yep, and there's gonna be people complaining about people complaing about complainers.

    It's just gonna get worse. We're gonna lol at them too. XD
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  • _Ink_ - Raging Tide
    _Ink_ - Raging Tide Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Welcome to the internet.
  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Because you'll just complain about it.."omg this dungeon sucks" " so glichty" " whats the point of this"...good gracious you guys complain about everything they give you. That is all

    Because a lot of people (although i dont know why) pay a lot of money to play this game.

    If you bought a car for a lot of money and it was broken and didnt work right, you woudl complain.
    What kind of fool pays for a free game.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Because a lot of people (although i dont know why) pay a lot of money to play this game.

    If you bought a car for a lot of money and it was broken and didnt work right, you woudl complain.

    No, you would either 1) warranty it, 2) go through insurance to fix it or 3) contact the loan holder/lending institution and tell them the product is defective, and see if they can get your money back so you can dump the pile of **** back on the seller (only if it's under warranty and the seller [dealer] isn't honoring the legally binding contract for the warranty).

    Since PWI has the most stupid TOU ever, we have none of these options. We're essentially giving them money to play with stuff that still 'expressly belongs to PWE', so if it's complete ****, you can QQ, and RAGE like lunatics on the forum (and we have), but do nothing else.

    The ultimate driving factor, in the past on certain things, has been their bottom line. They completely reversed their decision on TW rewards when participation in TW fell through the floor (that effected their sales, charm sales dropped, and so did their stocks).

    The people here on the forums are a small percentage of the overall players in the game, which may be part of why the people who run this game seem to ignore us most of the time (come on, **** horse?). WE all might be QQing like a bunch of cats over a steak that they can't get to, but if their sales are up, do you really think they're gonna give even a little bit of thought to what we say? Talk of 'boycott this', 'I'm not spending anymore!' that, they really don't care much. They look at their sales and stocks, and judge what EVERYONE thinks and wants over that. I'm SURE they have seen their $$$ incoming go up once rubberbanding started getting REALLY FIXED.

    Do you think that people are going to stop spending money on this game because of a new instance, fail or not? I seriously doubt it. People still TW, are still leveling alts, still getting mains to endgame...

    So, the bottom line is, money talks, regardless of what a bunch of trolls pitch their fit over on the forums.
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  • AgentPotato - Archosaur
    AgentPotato - Archosaur Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    People complain for the same reason you complain about people complaining: to vent. b:bye

    Not to mention everything pwi has done in the past year is legitimately something stupid enough to complain about. b:chuckle
  • Pvp_watcher - Harshlands
    Pvp_watcher - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There's no new endgame dungeon because their is no new gear.

    Real endgame on any game is pvp whether you like it or not.

    My endgame is flying around the world, chatting to friends and getting all giddy when someone needs to do an FB. ._.
    Or playing on my plethora of alts. b:chuckle
  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    People complain for the same reason you complain about people complaining: to vent. b:bye

    Not to mention everything pwi has done in the past year is legitimately something stupid enough to complain about. b:chuckle
    Lol, OP is complaining about complainers.

    I'm not complaining, I'm simply giving you a reason why you won't be getting anything b:cute. The as you can see i had to use "big" words and a complaining like tone to so people could fully understand it (like yourselves) because how else will understand b:shutup
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  • sjsharksfan
    sjsharksfan Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Because a lot of people (although i dont know why) pay a lot of money to play this game.

    If you bought a car for a lot of money and it was broken and didnt work right, you woudl complain.

    Lol then they bought a lemon, sell it and get a new car! b:chuckle
  • Deoxyribonuc - Archosaur
    Deoxyribonuc - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    So, the bottom line is, money talks, regardless of what a bunch of trolls pitch their fit over on the forums.

    QFMFT
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  • BaconBong - Lost City
    BaconBong - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Because you'll just complain about it.."omg this dungeon sucks" " so glichty" " whats the point of this"...good gracious you guys

    complain about everything they give you. That is all

    Naww they don't care if we complain cus they dont read forums b:shutup
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Because you'll just complain about it.."omg this dungeon sucks" " so glichty" " whats the point of this"...good gracious you guys complain about everything they give you. That is all

    That's not a reason.

    The reason is because they just don't give a sh*t about end-game content and they know there are plenty of idiots who will blindly stick up for them and make their excuses for them no matter how horrible they are.

    Your post pretty much proves my point.

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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Don't forget, people don't even consider lunar glade an end game dungeon, because it "isnt worth doing"
    Unless they made a new dungeon that dropped medals, people would probably never use it.
    And if it did the other half of the server would riot about the unfairness of it.

    the main reason people dont run lunar is because its 500k+ per person for 1 run. = not worth it.
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  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    No, you would either 1) warranty it, 2) go through insurance to fix it or 3) contact the loan holder/lending institution and tell them the product is defective, and see if they can get your money back so you can dump the pile of **** back on the seller (only if it's under warranty and the seller [dealer] isn't honoring the legally binding contract for the warranty).

    Since PWI has the most stupid TOU ever, we have none of these options. We're essentially giving them money to play with stuff that still 'expressly belongs to PWE', so if it's complete ****, you can QQ, and RAGE like lunatics on the forum (and we have), but do nothing else.

    The ultimate driving factor, in the past on certain things, has been their bottom line. They completely reversed their decision on TW rewards when participation in TW fell through the floor (that effected their sales, charm sales dropped, and so did their stocks).

    The people here on the forums are a small percentage of the overall players in the game, which may be part of why the people who run this game seem to ignore us most of the time (come on, **** horse?). WE all might be QQing like a bunch of cats over a steak that they can't get to, but if their sales are up, do you really think they're gonna give even a little bit of thought to what we say? Talk of 'boycott this', 'I'm not spending anymore!' that, they really don't care much. They look at their sales and stocks, and judge what EVERYONE thinks and wants over that. I'm SURE they have seen their $$$ incoming go up once rubberbanding started getting REALLY FIXED.

    Do you think that people are going to stop spending money on this game because of a new instance, fail or not? I seriously doubt it. People still TW, are still leveling alts, still getting mains to endgame...

    So, the bottom line is, money talks, regardless of what a bunch of trolls pitch their fit over on the forums.

    One of the greatest answers I ever see... money talks...
  • Strife_son - Sanctuary
    Strife_son - Sanctuary Posts: 1,217 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Deal with it

    b:cute
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Maybe its more profitable to invent new classes which people will level/gear up, rather than spending time trying to come up with a challenging endgame dungeon that is also rewarding.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Maybe its more profitable to invent new classes which people will level/gear up, rather than spending time trying to come up with a challenging endgame dungeon that is also rewarding.

    We have a winrar. b:victory
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  • Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver
    Samurai_Jack - Dreamweaver Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I don't see the point of new dungeon since there is BH dungeons,TT and Nirvana at 100+
    you get good coins from drops mats books costs milions if you're luckie.
    Since 2 years of gameplay had over 30M got 1 good book witch costed 13M some FC drops
    wich has the chaneling ring for 15M
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  • Manostra - Harshlands
    Manostra - Harshlands Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If the Average Level is high enough , if we burned enough monney to have all +12 and if we dont know were to spend our cash anymore THAN they will raise the level cap and give us new dungeons where we can grind new stuff that need to be refined again.

    Its up to us when we get new dungeons b:angry
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Best way for them to force people to spend money is to make refines go up to +15 and not introduce new orbs. It would force people to keep trying just to be the best of the best.

    Another reason why they don't have to make a new dungeon.
    /quit.

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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    nice infinite loop you got there
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