Knightblayde's PvE Seeker Guide

Neyda - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm using the Str+5 Dex+3 Vit+2 every 2 Levels, and for me its the most usefull Build for Seekers.

If you want you compare the Builds, which the OP explained.
they are all lvl 100 and without Equipp

Str+5, Dex+3, Vit+2 (every 2 Level) :
http://pwcalc.com/603dc6364b20e0d5

Str+3, Dex+2 (every level) :
http://pwcalc.com/c95ef3c6bb607899
For me, this is the worst Build for Seeker. Maybe its works pretty
good for BM, or if you want to go on APS. But its **** for the Seeker.

Str+5, Dex+5 (every 2 level) :
http://pwcalc.com/0670dd66caafd65e


Str+7, Dex+3 (every 2 Levels) :
http://pwcalc.com/de8f8e25ef0afbbb

Like Magic User, the Seeker's Damage comes from his Skills, so Str isn't that Important.
I hope this helps you a bit.

Knightblayde - Raging Tide wrote: »

That's not me, lol.



I did not suggest for someone to follow the formulas up to lvl 100. My guide suggests (clearly in the builds section) for people to start with a formula until they figure out the gear that they want. b:chuckle

I've been using the 3str/2dex build with some limits and will add VIT when I reach those limits. My HP and other things have come from gear, shards, and refines. My seeker is currently lvl 97 and quite popular for being requested to do pulls in FC because of barb absences sometimes. It's funny sometimes when people think I can't do pulls because of my HP (currently 5.7k). HP doesn't matter that much when vortex + bp does the job, imo.

I agree that STR isn't that important for damage, but one of the reasons I add more points into it is for stance chaining with the skills that use base dmg + add-ons (like stalagstrike and staggering strike). Skills like gemini slash or yataghan vortex already gets is damage from the % bonus, so it's very irrelevant there. Even though STR only adds a bit of damage, I prefer it over having more HP using a lot of VIT points. It's possible to get well over 10k HP with gear, refines, and shards and not adding points into VIT, so that is why I chose not to add too much VIT (not that the VIT build is ineffective). I am a bit offended that this 3/2 build is called **** when many lvl 100 seekers have had great success with it and that the argument isn't supported by logical reasoning. b:angry

The endgame level builds should not be compared without gears as it only proves that ~1.5k more hp is obtainable. The reasoning for the 3/2 build is for those that plan to balance the loss of hp with gears, refines, and shards. A lot of thought is actually put into it, so it's not a random speculation.

Blaydewind - Raging Tide wrote: »

Knightblayde here...

I'm going to start using my Seeker's name when posting in here from now on b:chuckle.

I recently just completed my first full delta on my Seeker and enjoyed it! b:victory The Seeker role in delta, although a little less interactive than a BM's, has taught me a lot more about stationary AoE positioning, how fun quid pro quo can be against some delta bosses, and how useful the soulsever stance chain (as well as the shatter debuffs) can be in an environment like delta.

In my next update, I think I will add in some tips for delta (based on my experiences) and some information about genie setup/skills. Based on my previous experiences with FC, BH100, delta, and regular questing, I will have to change my opinion on the prioritizing of some of the Seeker skills.

Blaydewind - Raging Tide wrote: »

Thanks for the sticky, ChaoticShelly b:victory. You responded rather quickly b:chuckle b:avoid

Knightblayde - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm actually planning to add detail on that tonight during maint. Stay tuned! b:victory

Blaydewind - Raging Tide wrote: »

Honestly, you can use whatever genie you want. The only real difference is their starting stats, looks, and initial skills. In the end, it's the additional stat points and skills that make the difference.

I only recommended a zeal genie for the genie section on my guide as a means for luring a specific mob or boss away from groups. In BHs, a zeal's earthflame can be great for luring adds or the boss(es). In FC, you can lure a mob to punch it for chi. While questing, sometimes the mob/boss you have to kill is surrounded by tons of other mobs you don't want to fight -- earthflame makes that process a whole lot easier. I personally like the zeal genie for how useful the luring ability can be. I have had experiences where I was in a BH and no one had a zeal genie. We had to kill EVERYTHING in the way just to get the BH done b:surrender. Because of that, you can always see any of my characters having at least 1 zeal genie b:chuckle. I just like to be prepared b:victory.

There are also places where you would pick other genies because their base stats further enhance the skill types you want to use (infliction further enhances the STR bonus for tangling mire, for example). Nirvana and delta, for example, have no need for luring, so you can fill your genie skill bar with skills that actually help you get the job done better.

Those example skill lists in my guides are just that -- examples. Each player should build their genie to their own preferences. They know what activities they like to do and should research/understand what genie skills will help their performance in those activities.

If there is any one skill that I think is a must on most genie builds, it would be holy path. It speeds up instance runs, it helps you position yourself better to save squad members, it helps you avoid obstacles (like slash boss and circle boss in FC), and my most favorite use: linking mobs for AoEs. If this skill didn't exist, instances would be a bit more boring with the long walks in the big instances.

Blaydewind - Raging Tide wrote: »

Be careful with how much spirit you use, so you don't luck out on the sp for your skills (I ran out of spirit once b:surrender). At the higher levels, genies tend to use ~1 mil sp per level, which is the kind of sp you'll need for demon/sage skills. For now, I'd just suggest focusing on making your own general all-purpose genie (which is what I did until 100). Perhaps you can use one with earthflame, a heal skill, holy path, and cloud eruption.

By the way, you can keep cloud eruption at level 1 if you want because the spark it gives is really all you need from that skill. Extra levels makes the energy cost higher and adds a small amount of chi. You can get chi boosts by adding STR points to your genie, anyways. If you keep the energy cost low, you can get sparks more often.

notsononymous wrote: »

By the way, when is a "good" time to stop levelling vitality?