Dropping items rate increased? (death by mobs)

Blade_Vixen - Lost City wrote: »

Sorry if this has already been asked but....

has the rate for dropping items when killed by mobs increased?

JUST TODAY while doing frostcovered city runs, one person dropped 20 pure waters, another person dropped their bracers, and i dropped a stack of hyper exp stones.

This all happened dying from mobs not players, and all within 1-2 hours of eachother.

Any word on this? b:bye

*edit* nobody had infamy.

if players get 2x drops from mobs, why shouldnt the reverse be true?

Also depends on how red they were.

But white name drops aren't actually all that rare. It's just that when you don't die too often, have safety lock/GAs, or die in areas where things can't drop it starts to feel more and more like an incredibly rare occurrence.

I do like the idea of 2x drop rates on players though since it's only fair for the squads of mobs that when they go Player Boss hunting they should get 2x EXP/drops for killing us too. b:laugh

Isn't default drop rate for white names, 1%? so even if double drops also worked on mobs killing players, or players killing players, that would make it 2% by that theory, which of course woulden't make sense if the 2 people here just said about all that **** dropping.

2x event doesn't increase your chances of dropping. If it did affect players, you would have dropped two stacks of hypers instead of just dropping any at all.

RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

2x event doesn't increase your chances of dropping. If it did affect players, you would have dropped two stacks of hypers instead of just dropping any at all.

The 2x event doesn't actually mean twice the amount of items drop from mobs. It means double the drop rate.

Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »

And you cant drop items your wearing to mobs, white or red name...you cant.

You see why I am so confused, then. It shouldn't even be possible. Besides which, I didn't die to the mob, I killed it. Unless it somehow managed to swipe my swimtrunks in the split-second before its demise? . . . I have no idea. This game just gets more bizarre with every patch.
b:surrender

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's possible there's something... screwy going on with drops.
I was in the Emerald Dragon Gulf a couple nights ago goofing off with a friend - I killed a clamscout and my shorts dropped. The ones I was wearing.

Let me say that again: I killed the mob, and my pants fell off.

So yeah... I have no idea how that's even possible, but there ya go.

I took your shorts.b:cute

Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

this is incorrect you get double the drops from every mob. not double the chance. *points to nirvana chests*

Why don't we ask an archer?b:mischievous

b:laugh

i can relate-i had my little Mystic at the TB beach where you have to dig underwater for treasure chests, while trying to avoid those phrahna like fish mobs. so i had my fugly pet eating them while i was digging, and when she straightened up, no dress! nothing but a weird bikini undies that let you see what was on the other side of me! talk about seethrough clothes, yikes. but when i went to the next spot, where there were treasure chests with turtles around, no problems with 'clothing malfunctions'.

it always happens with the pearlblossom dresses, but not in any predictable way. first time was on my veno, when i was on my tiger mount, and the dress would disappear/reappear depending on camera angle.

whatever the reason, im paranoid now about wearing that style. its back to the old ballroom dress and fairy dresses for me now.

but you say 'you dropped your shorts'....do you mean they just disappeared, or you saw them floating beside you?

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's possible there's something... screwy going on with drops.
I was in the Emerald Dragon Gulf a couple nights ago goofing off with a friend - I killed a clamscout and my shorts dropped. The ones I was wearing.

Let me say that again: I killed the mob, and my pants fell off.

So yeah... I have no idea how that's even possible, but there ya go.

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »

...and when she straightened up, no dress!...

That's a flaw with the way PWI handles alpha-channel transparency. Most of the newer fashion and starter-armors use it (Nirvana gears too, actually), so anything post-Tideborn is likely to leave you feeling exposed on occasion - usually around water objects (or in water).

but you say 'you dropped your shorts'....do you mean they just disappeared, or you saw them floating beside you?

Literally dropped - there were about 200 coins, a flat peach, and the "ambassador shorts" he was wearing at the time - poor Keph was left floating in nothing but his tiger skivvies. It was... bizarre, to say the least.

RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

2x event doesn't increase your chances of dropping. If it did affect players, you would have dropped two stacks of hypers instead of just dropping any at all.

Wrong, 2x means doubble drop RATEb:cute

Shilizious - Heavens Tear wrote: »

you get double the droprate, every mob you kill, the server just counts droprate like you killed it twice

nirvana bosses: 100% chance to drop 1, server counts it twice, so 2 times 100% chance to drop 1

other mobs, for example 40% drop 1, 20% drop 2 and 10% drop 3, you can have 1 item and 3 items, so total of 4 drops from one mobs, you can also have 2 times 3 drops, giving a total of 6

Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wrong 2x drops means you get 2x the drops dont believe me? kill a boss in nirvana normally drops 1 chest you get 2 during 2x. i say normally cause there are 3 bosses in nirvana that give you 2 chests but those get bumped to 4 chests plus the boss at the end that drops 2 of either mirages raptures or uncanny gives you 4 items also the 99 key quest boss gives you 4 raptures instead of 2. if it were drop rate you wouldnt get 2 chests or anything actually. it would be the same as always.

*points to first quote*

Double drop rate...proven fact from the past (by the true mathematicians of PWI, archers b:mischievous).

that is hilarious!

ballroom and fairy dresses were ingame when it started, so i think im safe against losing them...going visually AWOL is another.

but one question about your shorts-either get off the diet, buy suspenders,b:laugh or perhaps you were in PK mode? how could something drop if you are in PVE mode? this is fun to laugh at, but should be reported.

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That's a flaw with the way PWI handles alpha-channel transparency. Most of the newer fashion and starter-armors use it (Nirvana gears too, actually), so anything post-Tideborn is likely to leave you feeling exposed on occasion - usually around water objects (or in water).



Literally dropped - there were about 200 coins, a flat peach, and the "ambassador shorts" he was wearing at the time - poor Keph was left floating in nothing but his tiger skivvies. It was... bizarre, to say the least.

I'm pretty sure that most people in this thread in regards to how 2x works are all partially correct. I am reminded of an old thread that equated 2x drops to rolling dice. If I recall, the way it was described was there were 2 sets of dice.

Die 1: drop count
Die set 2 (can be more than one, depending on mob/boss): drop item

In the case of non bonus nirvana bosses, die 1 has "1" on all sides - and die 2 has the chest type on all sides, so you always get 1 chest on normal drops. For bonus bosses, die 1 has "2" on all sides - so you always get 2 chests. For 2x drops the dice are rolled a second time and you get 2 chests on normal bosses and 4 chests on bonus bosses.

For EG the last boss in nirvana, die one has "2" on all sides and there are TWO dice for set 2. Each die in set 2 has "mirage" "uncanny" "rapture" as possible outcomes. Die 1 gets rolled first - always lands on "2", then die set 2 gets rolled and you end up with eg: "uncanny & rapture". THEN, die 1 gets rolled again - lands on 2 again as always, followed by a second roll of die set 2 where you might end up with eg: "mirage and rapture"

thus your actual drops received are "mirage, rapture, rapture, uncanny".

TheWorm - Dreamweaver wrote: »

your wrong, drop rate it is, scince chest drop rate is 100% for chests it becomes 200%
therefore 2 chestsb:chuckle

k explain the raptures then for me why do i get 4 items from the final boss if it were drop rate you would only have 2 items. plus double drop rate makes no sense say an uncanny has 50% you double that its 100% so i should be getting nothing but uncanny from the bosses? b:chuckle sorry but drop rate does not even begin to work right. b:chuckle oh and before you say " thats why you get 4 items because its 100% drop rate for so and so item" no its not possible cause i have gotten 4 raptures from 1 boss. This is Double Drops not Drop Rate.