Dresden's Guide to being a PVE archer.

dresden69
dresden69 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Archer
Note: This guide will probably look rather plain, boring and simple, as it's my first guide. b:laugh Anyway, this guide is also based entirely off of personal experience and tidbits i've picked up as I've progressed in the world of archers.

Contents:
Builds
Skills
Combos
Sage vs Demon (My opinion)



BUILDS:

Pure Dex: 4 dex, 1 str per lvl.
Vit: 3 dex, 1 vit, 1 str per lvl
Pure/Vit Mix: Pure dex until lvl 50, then swap to vit build. Even with low hp, allows for tanking of bh 51 during 6x using BB and BoA(Barrage of Arrows)

Skills
The following skills are the ones I find to be the most useful to max and use on a regular basis.The order and speed at which you max the following skills is entirely up to you.


Quickshot
Blazing Arrow
Frost Arrow
Winged Blessing aka Range Mastery
Winged Shell
Lightning Strike
Knockback Arrow(Not essential to max, but essential to get)
Wings of Protection (Not essential, but people during bhs like getting the best and as many buffs from everyone possible in squad, so you may as well max it, plus it does save you some coinage on potions and chi stones for genie)
Winged Pledge (Great if you're tanking mobs and knockback is in cooldown)
Thundershock (Not personally used by me, but metal attacks are nice to have if mobs have increased def or get too close)
Aim Low (Nice life saver if knockback is in cooldown and mobs get close, didn't use much myself personally due to spark cost)
Stunning Arrow (Nice quick stun for tight situations)
Bow Mastery (Everyone enjoys higher damage)
Thunderous Blast (Metal aoe, useful in instances)
Sharpened Tooth Arrow (Great for faster boss killing and it's another aoe, so good for instances as well)
Deadly Shot (Highest damaging non spark skill. Makes for nice damage while sparked and a good lead attack for when you're just out and about questing or grinding)
Barrage of Arrowa aka BoA (Channeled ranged attack. Good for bosses when you have to go afk in middle of fight in bhs/fbs. Also fun to tank things with if you have an mp charm to keep it up)

Combos

Basic combo for lower lvls: Forst arrow, shot, shot, knockback, shot, shot. (Mob should die somewhere in there, if not, use knocback and more shots)

Basic combo for later lvls when you start doing good damage: Lead with Quickshot or Deadly Shot, then finish off mobs with reg attacks. Throw in frost arrow if it makes you feel safer.

BH/FB boss combo: Sharpened Tooth Arrow, then any array of attack of your choosing to help bring down the boss the fastest.

BH/FB mob combo: Not much of a combo, but make sure to use aoes, stuns, slows, etc to help bring down the monsters quickly.

Sage vs Demon

Sage: Great for survival. Highest dps, can be 5 aps with right gear and genie skills (Wind Shield I believe it was), so of course I'd naturally go sage because who wouldn't want to do more damage than demon archers and still be 5 aps? b:laugh

Demon: Good for killing things fast. Most common for being 5 aps. Demon Quickshot can get you to 5 aps without spark if you already have high enough base aps.


I do realize that this isn't the best guide ever, as I made in like half an hour. But it should be enought o get any pve archer started. Oh, one last thing. Jone's Blessing makes everything faster, so keep it up to date.
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Comments

  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    So why did you make this half hour guide if there is already a guide that's much better written and more thought out that already covered what you did?

    Don't get me wrong, new guides are great, but spending half an hour on one is just half-assed and an insult to people who put their time into making better guides.
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  • VivaKills - Raging Tide
    VivaKills - Raging Tide Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    this is the worst guide i have ever seen. im sorry but put some more time into a guide if ur gonna make one and atleast expect it to be half decent. i cant even say this is half decent cause u didnt say which skills were good, or really anything semi useful about the archer. just a build that everyone knows and that says on the other guides. u mid as well copy and pasted those other guides for this to be better
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    VivaKills - Raging Tide wrote: »
    this is the worst guide i have ever seen.

    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Archer_Low_to_High_Level
  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    dresden69 wrote: »
    Sage vs Demon

    Sage: Great for survival. Highest dps, can be 5 aps with right gear and genie skills (Wind Shield I believe it was), so of course I'd naturally go sage because who wouldn't want to do more damage than demon archers and still be 5 aps? b:laugh

    Demon: Good for killing things fast. Most common for being 5 aps. Demon Quickshot can get you to 5 aps without spark if you already have high enough base aps.

    All archers have to think when choosing their cultivation is 5aps n how much damage they do. b:shutup Best guide ever.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I really hope that mods wont sticky this. But they walked into troll-traps before.

    Using QS to reach 5 APS is kinda funny though, same with opening Barrage when going afk on bosses, i did laugh a bit.

    If this guide is serious ( there are some crazy people out there), I'm really sorry for whoever OP is in a party with.
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    afk fist auto... is so much better then barrage afk.

    No one really uses deadly shot anymore lol, like no one. I literally haven't seen a deadly shot skill in months.

    Using Aim Low in PvE is just fail when you can just holy path away, or even just run without holy path, it would still give you more survival then using aim low on a mob since normal mobs never even hit higher then 5% of your hp.

    Getting 5aps with sage is a lot more expensive then demon 5 aps. I don't know if this is possible, but if Archers was able to cancel cast demon blazing arrow, their dps would raise much higher.

    I have never seen any archer use winged pledge on a mob. I think you are talking about Wingspan since your relating it to knockback arrow.

    Bow mastery really doesn't matter much since most of archer damage comes from fist. Bow mastery works nice in PvP though.

    And as I said, most of fist damage comes from fists. You should never use skills to bring down a boss. Heck Bow auto attack is much better then using skills.

    Oh yeah, just so you know, bosses cannot be stunned or slowed.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    KedgeSniper - Lost City wrote: »
    All archers have to think when choosing their cultivation is 5aps n how much damage they do. b:shutup Best guide ever.

    b:scorn You can get to 5.0 base on an archer, Sage or Demon.

    The only reason to go Demon is to get a higher APS with a bow, slingshot, or crossbow. Even then, you aren't gonna get enough APS to permaspark with a bow, so...
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:scorn You can get to 5.0 base on an archer, Sage or Demon.

    The only reason to go Demon is to get a higher APS with a bow, slingshot, or crossbow. Even then, you aren't gonna get enough APS to permaspark with a bow, so...

    So its the most stupid reason why choosing your cultivation... Base your cultivation cause of fist.. real.....
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:scorn You can get to 5.0 base on an archer, Sage or Demon.

    The only reason to go Demon is to get a higher APS with a bow, slingshot, or crossbow. Even then, you aren't gonna get enough APS to permaspark with a bow, so...

    Actually, if you have full rank 9 gear, you will have better survivability using 5aps if you are demon than if you are sage: Sage spark conflicts with blue bubble for up to 2 seconds after you spark, and demon spark lets you get defense levels from rank gear along with the rank 9 armor refines without sacrificing 5aps.
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No one really uses deadly shot anymore lol, like no one. I literally haven't seen a deadly shot skill in months.

    But that tells us something about the people you saw, and the situations they were in, and does not tell us about the skill.

    For example, you can use deadly shot on assassins when take aim is cooling off. (Thunderous blast can also be useful here.)
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But that tells us something about the people you saw, and the situations they were in, and does not tell us about the skill.

    For example, you can use deadly shot on assassins when take aim is cooling off. (Thunderous blast can also be useful here.)

    DS and TB hit sins when they stealth too? I might add DS back on my skillbar....
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    DS and TB hit sins when they stealth too? I might add DS back on my skillbar....

    If you were channelling the skill before they stealthed, any skill other than barrage can hit them. (I think that barrage does not work because it stops when you lose your target.)
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Getting 5aps with sage is a lot more expensive then demon 5 aps. I don't know if this is possible, but if Archers was able to cancel cast demon blazing arrow, their dps would raise much higher

    I have tried and now I believe it isn't possible to cancel cast demon blazing arrow :<
  • madrith
    madrith Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have tried and now I believe it isn't possible to cancel cast demon blazing arrow :<


    when we are talking 5 aps w/ demon or maybe sage archer this is fists right? not bow? or both..?
  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have tried and now I believe it isn't possible to cancel cast demon blazing arrow :<

    its not lol
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