Most Common Item Scams

ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver
ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
I thought it might be a good idea to make a list of items which players are scammed with most, and which item is used in the scam. Two that I know of are the Lunar Glade Insignia: Weapon/Mystical Orb scam and the Perfect Token of Best Luck/Perfect Token of Luck scam...anyone have any other examples of similar/shared iconed items used in scams? I'll keep a list in this first post, and update it as often as I can.

~Lunar Glade Insignia: Weapon/Mystical Orb
~Perfect Token of Best Luck/Perfect Token of Luck
~Heart of Nature (TT100 red mat)/FB79 wine
~Championship Scroll/Resurrection Scroll, Pet rename scroll, etc.
~Frostcovered Sign: Force/Godwill Powder (apoth. item)
~Sapphire Gem/Frost Orb (apoth. item)
~Bracers of Blood Moon/Lvl 64 LA wrists, Forshura's Arm (TT mat)


This thread's purpose is to warn others before they find out the hard way.
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  • Ankiel - Raging Tide
    Ankiel - Raging Tide Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    now all the scammers can learn all the tips and tricks of the trade
  • Lurani - Raging Tide
    Lurani - Raging Tide Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    -Takes down notes.-
    Jk.
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  • Omea - Lost City
    Omea - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Heart of Nature (TT100 red mat) and FB79 wine.
    How come, if someone asks a question in a forum, at least 13/20 posts answers the question in the same exact way, 5/20 word the exact same answer differently and 2/20 say something completely unrelated to both life and death?
  • Gigglesnort - Lost City
    Gigglesnort - Lost City Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Not sure if it's a scam or not.

    Shop half full of oracles priced at 32k except for the last stack which is priced at 320k.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    A good rule of thumb is that if something has to be shown in giant huge annoying red text it's probably not useful information.
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  • DarkGifts - Harshlands
    DarkGifts - Harshlands Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Genie exp cube with 1 exp left... (happened to me b:angry)
  • ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver
    ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    A good rule of thumb is that if something has to be shown in giant huge annoying red text it's probably not useful information.

    Any other suggestion? Or are you just here to be a critic? Colors/size can be changed, I just figured that it was the best way to get the most important part of the post noticed.
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Championship Scroll - Pet renaming scroll or something.
    .-.
  • BaconBong - Lost City
    BaconBong - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited April 2011

    "9.5K teles!"
    *teles are actually 95,000*
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  • ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver
    ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    While I understand that pricing scams occur a lot, the particular scams I am asking for are ones where a less expensive item with a similar/shared icon is substituted for an item worth much more.
  • Sakuba - Harshlands
    Sakuba - Harshlands Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Bracer of Blood Moon and some DQ Item works as well...
    Also Lunar Insignia Ornament and one of those orbs u manufacture at apothecary
    And everything you gave me...vanished without a trace.

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  • DrowsEdge - Heavens Tear
    DrowsEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    While I understand that pricing scams occur a lot, the particular scams I am asking for are ones where a less expensive item with a similar/shared icon is substituted for an item worth much more.

    This is a big problem and pretty much sums it up.
    Maybe if they add Gold Stars or some kind of small icon attachment on items that are very Rare and very valuable. So item shops cannot scam people into paying hundreds if not thousands of times more than what their Common item is worth.
  • Gwenwyn - Raging Tide
    Gwenwyn - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I saw on the AH once, a page just of Flawless gems for 175,000 except for one that was 1,750,000. For someone just buying up abunch, easy for them to just click on it and buy out auction, and end up paying 10x the price if they were not careful. Its a scam that dont just pop up on this game, seen it happen in the AH of other games outside of PWI.

    Item: Qty: Min Bid: Buyout:
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000

    Easy to fall for it if you are not watching for that extra 0, and buying out the auctions as fast as you can click. As in buying abunch of gems to fuse to a set of armor.

    A variation of above is to put up stacks of an item, x10 for a price, then sell 1 of an item for the same price as the stack of 10.

    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Gwenwyn - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I saw on the AH once, a page just of Flawless gems for 175,000 except for one that was 1,750,000. For someone just buying up abunch, easy for them to just click on it and buy out auction, and end up paying 10x the price if they were not careful. Its a scam that dont just pop up on this game, seen it happen in the AH of other games outside of PWI.

    Item: Qty: Min Bid: Buyout:
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000

    Easy to fall for it if you are not watching for that extra 0, and buying out the auctions as fast as you can click. As in buying abunch of gems to fuse to a set of armor.

    A variation of above is to put up stacks of an item, x10 for a price, then sell 1 of an item for the same price as the stack of 10.

    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000

    Wow, you're really good at this scamming thing. b:cute
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sakuba - Harshlands wrote: »
    Bracer of Blood Moon and some DQ Item works as well...
    Also Lunar Insignia Ornament and one of those orbs u manufacture at apothecary

    Bracers of B.Moon have the same icon of lv.64 LA Bracers,and Forshura's Arms too.
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited April 2011

    The fundamental way of beating scammers is to instead of have the shop layout like.
    X X X X X
    X X X X X
    X X

    Each X representing and item.

    You have it as a list:

    <name> <amount> <price>
    <name> <amount> <price>
    <name> <amount> <price>
    <name> <amount> <price>
    <name> <amount> <price>

    and the shop is scrollable. This is probably too much effort for developers because coding is costly and time consuming, also making money is more important because watching ignorant users make mistakes is also priceless and we've all got to have a good laugh sometime. or laugh your **** off at miserable failures. But its cool to make a mistakes, cause then you get smarter unless you're Lindsay Lohan swearing off hard-drugs.

    The second way is to change the icons, so people who are suffering from topographical agnosia or simultanagnosia to make the game disabled friendly not that it matters with the type of food people eat, the type of activities you do.

    The third and more important way is hover your/leave your mouse cursor over the item you're going to buy, until there is a pop-up. There is no RUSH TO GET SAID ITEM, (*cough* OMG I JUST GOT SCAMMED WAH WAH WORLD CHAT...*cough*) and take you're time, it won't kill you..

    If you buy it without thinking then you might as well walk-through the street blindfolded with a pack of starving lynx cats about to pounce on you. You're as stupid as a pillock. b:thanks

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    Yes, I like to rebuttal above posts but it seems that's what it takes these days because some people's attention spans are like a alpaca on cocaine.
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Gwenwyn - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I saw on the AH once, a page just of Flawless gems for 175,000 except for one that was 1,750,000. For someone just buying up abunch, easy for them to just click on it and buy out auction, and end up paying 10x the price if they were not careful. Its a scam that dont just pop up on this game, seen it happen in the AH of other games outside of PWI.

    Item: Qty: Min Bid: Buyout:
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000
    ItemX (1) 75,000 100,000

    Easy to fall for it if you are not watching for that extra 0, and buying out the auctions as fast as you can click. As in buying abunch of gems to fuse to a set of armor.

    A variation of above is to put up stacks of an item, x10 for a price, then sell 1 of an item for the same price as the stack of 10.

    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (1) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000
    ItemY (10) 75,000 1,000,000


    Oh my god, Gwenwyn did you just solve our problem, Wow I'd make you a developer any day. b:victory
    Time won't wake/make you wiser, but it will definitely wound you.
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    Subtly is never my strong point, but I like to find the gaps in walls and the cracks in bricks.
    Are you kind of seeing what I'm saying. b:bye
  • DrowsEdge - Heavens Tear
    DrowsEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    In my opinion the auction house should remain the way it is, it's easy to spot a rip off in there. The way catshops are made with item icons being identical needs to change. Why don't they make new icons for these few items? It shows a sort of cheap laziness to use the same icons for completely different items.
  • _Ink_ - Raging Tide
    _Ink_ - Raging Tide Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Why don't people just pay closer attention to what they're buying? I get that accidents happen, sometimes you're in a hurry and are just being dumb about it. And, yeah, the game devs need to pull their finger out of their nose and give every item it's own icon. But really if you fall for a scam like these, it's at least partially your own fault. Double check what you're buying, double check the prices. No matter if it's in a trade, catshop or AH. If it's a trade and the person is rushing you, there's probably a reason for that.

    Scammers are really just talentless idiots counting on the stupidity of others for their rip-offs to work. So what Kinjeto said is completely right and if you get ripped off, really it's your own fault. No point in QQing over it when all you had to do was double check before buying.
  • __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver
    __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I'm surprised no one said Crazy Stone shards.

    Oh wait...given the times, no I'm not. XD;;;
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    eh.. keep lookign and you'll find TT mats reuse the same icons over and over again
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I thought it might be a good idea to make a list of items which players are scammed with most, and which item is used in the scam. Two that I know of are the Lunar Glade Insignia: Weapon/Mystical Orb scam and the Perfect Token of Best Luck/Perfect Token of Luck scam...anyone have any other examples of similar/shared iconed items used in scams? I'll keep a list in this first post, and update it as often as I can.

    ~Lunar Glade Insignia: Weapon/Mystical Orb
    ~Perfect Token of Best Luck/Perfect Token of Luck
    ~Heart of Nature (TT100 red mat)/FB79 wine
    ~Championship Scroll/Resurrection Scroll, Pet rename scroll, etc.
    ~Frostcovered Sign: Force/Godwill Powder (apoth. item)
    ~Sapphire Gem/Frost Orb (apoth. item)
    ~Bracers of Blood Moon/Lvl 64 LA wrists, Forshura's Arm (TT mat)


    This thread's purpose is to warn others before they find out the hard way.

    You forgot to add 'Packs,' they look like youll get something good, but are really just garbage when you open em :|.
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