Most viable caster class?

fncrzyjordan wrote: »

You are joking about people spending that much money right? I have a hard time spending 15$ a month on a game let alone anywhere near that much....

no joke lol

fncrzyjordan wrote: »

You are joking about people spending that much money right? I have a hard time spending 15$ a month on a game let alone anywhere near that much....

no joke. although what exactly they spend it all on, i can only guess... i've been playing since, well, my forum avatar's got my join date correct, and i've spent maybe $100 USD total in that time. and right now, i can't think of anything in the cash shop i could buy that i think would be worth it, at this moment.

...in fact, i think i still have five or six gold left over from the last time i spent money on the game, three or four weeks ago... never thought of any good use for it, so it's sitting in my account unspent. i'll call it a rainy game day fund and see if some good sale comes along, i suppose.

fncrzyjordan wrote: »

See now this is the kind of post I was looking for. So if I'm set on playing a caster class then im looking at playing solo alot of the time. Otherwise, I will have to choose a melee class to get into the dungeons and end game content. Is this all summed up?

The only dungeon I can see any class having trouble getting into is a Nirvana run, which is late 90s or early 100s. That's about the only dungeon I see people calling specifically for APS characters, at least on my server. (DISCLAIMER: There are a couple dungeons I haven't gotten to yet, so this is just from what I've observed)

So, to really sum myself up, until your late 90s, any caster you play will be useful/able to get into dungeon parties without much problem. From what I've seen, you will only have trouble getting into Nirvana, which is an endgame gear farming instance (basically).

P.S.: I realize I just said the same thing twice, but it'll get my points across.

Viable caster classes early game is pretty much any
at end game its just: Cleric and Veno, mystic idk since haven't squadded with any 100+ mystics yet just seekers

cleric will always be needed aside from full 5.0 squads where boss just dies b4 any1 gets hurt but thats not often enough to make clerics obsolete (specially with all the squishy as hell 5.0s <.< [speaking ofc of crappy geared/refined sins/archers])

veno, altho they may not be the best DDs, they do have a good skill called "Amplify Damage" which does help all the 5.0s to kill faster by 20% (if lv10), 25%( if demon) or 30% (if sage) and another useful skill called "Purge" which rids bosses of any buffs they may have put on themselves (such as increased def/attack/att speed)

not to mention if u do a full 5.0 squad w/o a barb to devour, when ur demon/sage ironwood hits it'll be god-blessing to them along with the myriads, think of this:

Extreme Poison (genie skill w/ 20% amp) + armor break (100% phys debuff from myriads) + (amp 20-30% depending on lv) and a BM's HF skill, now thats [1.2 x 1.25 x 2= 3] times normal damage excluding the armor break which would make boss take more damage
now this rly helps aps chars a hell of a lot more in speeding up instance runs as it results in faster boss kills (use this to check math if u have to <.<)

If you make a caster, than you want to do PvP.

So roll on a PvP server. I recommend Wizard or Psychic.

Wizard if you like kiting, Psychic if you like buffs that make hitting you suicidal.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ignore these two.


Roll a veno, get decent survivability, max purge, get level 11 amp.

not only that, but ive seen a psy take on 3 5.0's and own them cuz they get silenced from his buffb:chuckle and if done right they can beat a sin too

IF UR in lost city (pvp) server look merceneri up we are making a NON aps faction 30+
i am sure there are ather faction who would wana do something like this or ppl should.
i mean if ppl still wana keep there barb cleric archer wiz veno active that is.
i am sure most would have 80% sin in guilds but i belive if the faction dont care about the
time and want pre APS era something like no aps should we made.


b:cute i am sure some ppl will flame this cos we dont want aps but without aps caster would we needed again and barbs would love 2 tank again and that is what
merceneri wish.

APS is nice but not everything.. Yes in Endgame they are really strong.. I've seen an 5APS assa killing bosses, BUT I'hve seen the same assa dealing with the range mobs in the same instance and I must say they can easily kill him, because bloodpaint doesn't work if you can't hit.

So, anyway in the beginning it should be REALY easy to get a squat as a cleric or a mystic, 'cause healer are needed. I don't know how its in Nirvana later on but there are manny instances where I wouldn't go without a decent healer, even if I was 5APS. So if you are fine with healing - get a cleric as caster class.

If you love Zhen(AoE) I would take a Wiz, but be aware besides Zhen you will have your difficulties getting a squat. On the positiv side is that a wiz has a lot of controling skills so normal mobs wont even reach you and he has the highest dmg in one attack. Negativ side he is quite slow.

Mystic: In my eyes its a really good mix of DD and healer..In some areas even a better healer than a cleric. It's a good support for Squats, because he can handle a lot of chaotic situations. I really enjoy playing mine. One more problem is that a Mystic is more or less a single target player. So if you like to take down bosses and play in squats from time to time, thats your choice.

Psych: That type is a good AoE -DMG dealer. Sure he has no permanent AoE like Wiz but still he has faster AoE skills. I would say all in all he is a better AoE DD than a wiz if you go a bit more solo or don't wana stand around all the time. All in all its prety similar to Wiz in Handling

Veno: A good choice for solo playing. Get a Herc and you can solo most of the instances. When there are mystic pets more or less to do dmg , Veno pets can tank. You can do nearly all TT solo, even in squat mode, but than you need a higher lvl than the one to open it(for a Mystic it's harder). In Terms of 5APS - it's even possible to build a 5APS veno, just you wont get Bloodpaint. In Squats your job is mostly to lure or to debuff the boss. So if you love to solo and it's no problem for you to lvl your pets - thats the best option.

I have a Wiz as my main and so far i m not having any problems to lvl up or to kill mobs.. most of the time they cannot even reach me.. When i was a low lvl I helped a lot of people and i made a lot of friends.. now most of them are at the same lvl than me or higher and they always invite me to squad because for some people is not all about money sometimes is better to run with a friend... but of course i m just lvl 41..

ya know i still done know why casters QQ about not getting into this or that... think for a sec with me... if clerics are not wanted... barbs are not wanted... wiz are not wanterd... archers are not wanted.. psy are not wanted... venos are not wanted... im guessing mystics and seekers are not wanted also... wait thats every class but 2... i know how to fix this... RUN YOUR OWN SQUAD AND SAY **** THE SINS and BM's... but you dont b/c you want a fast run too so you try and get into a 5 bm or 5 sin squad so you can run it fast also... just have all the other classes form a squad and run what ever you want to... the game will be like old times... b:victory

but for the record i will take caster/other clss with me in any squad b/c if i can do a niv run in 15 mins... i can drop one DD for a caster and make it take 15-20 mins... i will live over 5 mins... most ppl spend 10-20 mins trying to get a 6th 5aps character and it would be faster if they took a wiz or cleric or ect...