Dai(Cleric) vs. Ran(BM) (Need Advice)

Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Arigora Colosseum
Yea....so i lost to him like 5 times straight during this video.
I saw alot of failed moves >.<

For one..I had physical marrow on when he caught me with stuns.
Two...I keep chasing him with plume shell on without waiting for it to run out.

If your a BM or a cleric that can help me, then post some strategies for me plz.

Dai(Cleric) vs. Ran(BM)
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    A real genie and apoth/mdef charms would do you wonders. Would also help to try a stun lock so he 1. can't run.. and 2. can't atk you through the stun lock.
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  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    A real genie and apoth/mdef charms would do you wonders. Would also help to try a stun lock so he 1. can't run.. and 2. can't atk you through the stun lock.

    I will try...

    I know drake bash is a quick stun but sometimes miss.
    Aoelian blade doesn't work all the time with stuns.
    Roar of pride takes to long to cast be4 he thinks of a way loose.
  • Tenronth - Lost City
    Tenronth - Lost City Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Then use Smack to Seal him, he cant attack u while u stun lock.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    He's charmed, you aren't.
    That right there gives him a huuuuge advantage.

    Work on stun locking. Too often you'd finally get to him and use garrote, which sucks in pk normally, but especially so against clerics. Get to him, roar, wack wack wack, drake, wack wack wack, aoelin blade, wack wack wack

    Wack is interchangeable with fap
  • Brittany_Mia - Sanctuary
    Brittany_Mia - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ok so we've heard the advice for the bm.... Im a cleric but when i duel my hubby (bm) he has so many stuns im dead before i can land a hit.... Even with IH stck full and plume shell.. generally i sleeep him IH stack and use tempest or any other mag based high attack.. before he comes out of sleep.. unfortunately this doesnt kill him in 1 shot and i then get stunned and killed...

    Any advice for the cleric side of this fight??
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Get less interval, deicides or GV's, max all stuns. Roar of the Pride does not take long to cast at all. HP food. Learn Smack. Get Occult Ice and/or Extreme Poison. Keep him stunned and keep auto punching.

    I wanna 1 vs 1 this cleric myself uncharmed.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Then use Smack to Seal him, he cant attack u while u stun lock.

    Smack him 1st then go str8 into the stun lock, or smack him while my stuns are in cooldown?
  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    He's charmed, you aren't.
    That right there gives him a huuuuge advantage.

    Work on stun locking. Too often you'd finally get to him and use garrote, which sucks in pk normally, but especially so against clerics. Get to him, roar, wack wack wack, drake, wack wack wack, aoelin blade, wack wack wack

    Wack is interchangeable with fap

    I eventually bought my a charm in the video to balance the odds.
    What is garrote?
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I eventually bought my a charm in the video to balance the odds.
    What is garrote?

    a barb skill.
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  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Get less interval, deicides or GV's, max all stuns. Roar of the Pride does not take long to cast at all. HP food. Learn Smack. Get Occult Ice and/or Extreme Poison. Keep him stunned and keep auto punching.

    I wanna 1 vs 1 this cleric myself uncharmed.

    My friend got me decides the other day.
    When he uses plume shell and i attack with my axes its really low damage.
    I think for fists would b alot worse, or this is when i stun lock him until his shell is gone?

    Yea i need a TW genie...
    My friends suggest

    Bramble Rage, Tangling Mire, Absolute Domain, and extreme poison.
    I had some recommendations like what skills to use with which genie skills.
    Like i think my friends said don't bramble rage with HF cuz bramble rage is a magic move
    while HF lowers physical defense.

    Any bm skills with genie skills ideas will be very beneficial to me.
  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ok so we've heard the advice for the bm.... Im a cleric but when i duel my hubby (bm) he has so many stuns im dead before i can land a hit.... Even with IH stck full and plume shell.. generally i sleeep him IH stack and use tempest or any other mag based high attack.. before he comes out of sleep.. unfortunately this doesnt kill him in 1 shot and i then get stunned and killed...

    Any advice for the cleric side of this fight??

    I am not a great cleric for pvp...
    After he uses sleep, he goes str8 into his silence attack after I move.
    He uses guardian light, plume shell and wings of protection a lil after plume shell is bout to drop.

    Once you attack him he wakes up from sleep.
    My hubby uses the sleep time to debuff me with those mag n phys defense buff things
    and also uses his genie like tangling mire on me then he attacks...
    I usually take huge damage from that.

    I hope it helps.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    My friend got me decides the other day.
    When he uses plume shell and i attack with my axes its really low damage.
    I think for fists would b alot worse, or this is when i stun lock him until his shell is gone?
    Plume Shell is a massive reduction on physical damage at the cost of MP. Sure, your damage will be low with fists, but you'll be burning through his MP much faster that way... and if he runs out of MP, not only will plume shell drop, he'll also be unable to attack momentarily. You should be aiming to keep a stunlock up anyways regardless of whether or not plume shell is up.

    Yea i need a TW genie...
    My friends suggest

    Bramble Rage, Tangling Mire, Absolute Domain, and extreme poison.
    I had some recommendations like what skills to use with which genie skills.
    Like i think my friends said don't bramble rage with HF cuz bramble rage is a magic move
    while HF lowers physical defense.
    That's just plain bad overall. Domain, Occult Ice, Mire, Frenzy/Extreme Poison, Balance, and True Emptiness are all far more useful overall. On top of that, the HF thing isn't true. Heaven's Flame doubles all damage the target receives, both physical and magical, so using HF followed up by Bramble Rage or True Emptiness is a rather common and effective strategy.
    Responses in red. Was too lazy to respond properly and make it look coherent.
  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    truekossy wrote: »
    Responses in red. Was too lazy to respond properly and make it look coherent.

    Ty for all the useful info.
    Ill start working on a pvp genie.
    Just making a great affinity genie is hard, so i might end up making 2 genies.
    Then switching i have to w8 for the bothersome cooldown.
    If you guys have any good affinity trees and the skills on ur genies will b helpful b:thanks
  • Tenronth - Lost City
    Tenronth - Lost City Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    if enemy is melee smack first, if its a kiter, smack to complete 15 seconds stun lock.
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I know drake bash is a quick stun but sometimes miss.
    Aoelian blade doesn't work all the time with stuns.
    Roar of pride takes to long to cast be4 he thinks of a way loose.

    You miss 100% of the shots you never take. Stun lock more, even if it might miss.
    Also, a better genie could probably help. Alpha Male and Earthflame aren't all that useful 1 v 1, lol.
    while HF lowers physical defense.

    lolwut?
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You miss 100% of the shots you never take. Stun lock more, even if it might miss.
    Also, a better genie could probably help. Alpha Male and Earthflame aren't all that useful 1 v 1, lol.

    Clearly, Earthflame is for pulling clerics out of cata squads in TW without aggro'ing the rest of the squad. Alpha Male is to maintain aggro on the cleric while your squad members kill it. b:victory
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    a barb skill.

    lol wewps. Meant to say Draw Blood b:chuckle
  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    lol wewps. Meant to say Draw Blood b:chuckle

    lol ty i am like what xD
    Do I look that fluffy? b:chuckle
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Do I look that fluffy? b:chuckle

    Do you really want me to answer that? b:laughb:cute
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I am wondering the gear difference here because you are not hitting the Cleric for much, but you also cannot seem to get close enough as well...

    Also, as Sage, when he uses Silent Seal, he takes a pretty large damage reduction to his atttacks (he should be purifying it first and a few times you might have gone down faster had he purified himself).

    You need a new Genie for sure though!!! b:surrender

    Learn to properly stun lock...A GOOD stun lock can take down a Cleric pretty well and fast if they are not in tune with things.

    Smack.

    Occult Ice.

    Change the orders of your Marrows when you use them for chi when fighting a Mag class, you got caught with P. Marrow up a few times :/

    M.def charms would help as well as apoth, as mentioned before, but the m.def charms would help you greatly.

    Plume shell becomes your chance to get some chi. Learn to time it since there is about 10 seconds in-between being able to recast it once the time is up. Sage version though will absorb 85% of incoming p.damage. Like mentioned before, you CAN use up a Cleric's MP much faster then they can pot through it (unless charmed but sometimes even then that makes no difference) if you time your attacks correctly. Cleric's can Plume shell, G. Light and use Wings of Protection if needed (the 79 skills often used as a last resort if needed) and they can be a great in-between if Plume Shell is on cool down.

    Also, you running gives Cleric's a MUCH larger advantage then staying closer since all of the attacks are ranged and cool down times are given a chance. This is where stun locking, timing anti-stun skills and a new Genie comes in.

    Know what to expect from the Cleric. Many Cleric's have a pattern that can be read (this can be said the same of those BM's that can Stun Lock the **** out of someone). Know their skills and use the pattern(s) to your advantage. Cleric's WILL use their Silent Seal, Sleep and Elemental Seal when they get a chance too :P

    I dunno, that is what I thought of at this moment, but pretty in tune with what others have been saying/said here...
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  • Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver
    Rancoroustwo - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I am wondering the gear difference here because you are not hitting the Cleric for much, but you also cannot seem to get close enough as well...

    I am wearing mostly tt 90 gear but some are like ordinary purple and molds.
    His gear outranks me by a long shot >.<
    He is -45 channeling now since he gotten his lunar robe 3 days ago.


    Also, as Sage, when he uses Silent Seal, he takes a pretty large damage reduction to his atttacks (he should be purifying it first and a few times you might have gone down faster had he purified himself).

    He isn't a sage, he's a demon cleric so i don't know the difference of the silent seal in that
    case. He claims he made a big mistake and at 100 he's changing to sage anyhow.



    You need a new Genie for sure though!!! b:surrender
    WORKING ON IT Q.Q

    I dunno, that is what I thought of at this moment, but pretty in tune with what others have been saying/said here...

    Ty for all your great info to slay that savage cleric beast b:thanks