2x TT 99 bonus

Daddytony - Sanctuary
Daddytony - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
I'm talkin about for BM only btw, theres 6 options, chest, legs, feet, wrist, waist, and neck. 2 of HA makes -.05 and 2 of LA makes .05 (interval bonus). So amma go ahead and rule out the top and legs cuz for the cost of r8 top amma just do that, and of course getting vana legs. So now we are down to just the wrist, feet, waist and neck. I ALWAYS see bm's with ashuras orns and HA wrist/boots, the thought of evasion orns makes me sick lol, it seems to me that one would wanna get the pdef orns (lionheart) and refine them, therefore giving u more pdef in the long run. The only benefit to HA wrist/boots in my eyes is a few hp from refining. Someone please give me some very good reasoning behind which is best lol. Thank you :)
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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    umm ur a bm so just get the heavy armor arm and boot, and lionheart orna lol

    unless u want the evasion, but youll already have that from all the dex u have?
  • Daddytony - Sanctuary
    Daddytony - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    So **** the APS????
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    rofl, dude post this in the BM's forum. You'll get more helpful answers.
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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Daddytony - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So **** the APS????

    o my bad yea if u want the aps then yea the ashura ornaments
  • Daddytony - Sanctuary
    Daddytony - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    rofl dude i did post in the BM forums and didnt really get what i wanted, even here.... i get "go with the ashuras ornaments" i'd really like to have a great reason why the ashuras orns are better then the lionheart orns and LA wrist/boots combo, and plz dont say cuz of the pdef.... after u refine the lionheart orns u come out with more pdef, and with all the dex i already have, i dont really need more evasion. plz and ty
  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    id say either combination is good, i mean they both are good
  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    no wrong way every BM does it different

    But for my BM in my opinion i went LA Arm+Boot HA Belt+Chest (Not counting leg that will eventually go nirvana)

    That option gives more Mdef and nice Pdef because refines on belt make up lost on Arm and Boot refines not as good but nirvana leg and HA chest make up for it.

    But thats my opinion its the way i did it and here are many different ways i know BMs with LA chest and boot HA belt and arm there is no wrong way all have there benefits.
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  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I know what are you getting at...

    I had a friend that said.. that Heavy armor was better than LA. I ask him why getting evasion ornaments instead of LA parts of armor n refining the HA as pdef.


    It is true.. LA parts are pretty much crappy compare to Heavy. You can easily get better Hp n defense from just heavy with Evasion addorns than having LA + Heavy addorns.

    Rich people.. Usually have an extra ornaments when fighting Mages though.. You can easily put Evasion addorns when your "target" stun lock.. While you getting into them having cube/warsong will be more helpful to survive.
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  • Tojop - Dreamweaver
    Tojop - Dreamweaver Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I'm pretty sure the right thing to do is get LA chest and bracers, heavy boots and belt, then nirvana legs and cube neck or something.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Way i've got my set-up right now is this:


    HA 99 Chest
    HA 99 Pants
    LA 99 Boots
    LA 99 Wrists


    While the LA boots+wrists combo kill my p.def, most **** dies before it even has a chance to blink because of the 2.86 base aps with my cape and deicide. Tho once refined to about +5 the p.def loss from the boots+wrists is kinda balanced back out and then the HA chest and pants help balance it out more.

    Atm I am trying to decide if I want to follow through with a true end-game gear I wanted or just say **** it, and just NV my pants, get a HA 99 belt and then get warsong/cube neck (idr which is the neck). If I don't do this I have to farm lunar chest and pants, then decomp the 90 version farm the 95 version, then farm enough NV to get both of those to Casade Glow Armor (2nd cast so 250 ea.). Along with this I'd have to get Pan Gu or Love: Up and down. Both of which are 190 (low low end) mil+

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  • DangerField - Dreamweaver
    DangerField - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    LA ornaments allow you to switch to g14 neck belt for tw or later skip tt99 ornaments completely if saving for a tome, while remain HA.

    HA ornaments can be shared with another char sin/archer.
  • Jenovadeath - Lost City
    Jenovadeath - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Not sure if its just a bug with pwcalc but doesnt the HA ornaments give the -.05 int as well? at least they give some pdef and are semi useful compared to evasion orns.

    TT HA orns for the extra -.05 int. that+lunar cape+decides+nv pants hell spark and lvl 10 cyclone heal and 90 gold 99 gold and 100 nv wrists can get you 5 aps and way cheaper than the tome. then once u have the 4-5 aps you can farm the tome up if you even need to way faster than you would before having all this.
  • Wunderkind - Dreamweaver
    Wunderkind - Dreamweaver Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    HA 99 Chest
    Nirvana Leggings
    LA 99 Boots
    LA 99 Bracers
    HA 99 Belt
    Cube Neck (ele) or TT90 Gold Neck (ele)

    Most appealing build for many BMs.
    Currently: pwcalc.com/b4c92dacf1da8c21
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It really all depends on your budget and what you plan on doing with your toon.

    personally if I were to make an APS toon I'd start out with (once at end game levels):

    (-.1)Deicides -> Regicides (approximately same overall DPS as TT100 fists, costs less IIRC)
    (-.05)Stage 2 HA legs
    (-.05)Tome (pan gu can be farmed in delta, doesnt require script of fate or scroll of tome)
    (-.05)Cape (can farm trophy modes with a pro squad)
    (-.1)Vana or Lunar wrists (they refine better than TT 99)
    (-.05)2x 99 gold complect bonus from Lionheart chest + Boots

    This gives you enough -int for a base of 3.33 unsparked / 5.0 sparked and you can use cube neck + warsong belt for atk and defense levels (not to mention better defenses). You still have the option to go with 2x Ashura ornaments to get 4.0 unsparked / 5.0 sparked, which you'd really only be using for farming - for pvp you'd use your g14 ornaments. If you wanted, you could go 2x Lionheart ornaments and upgrade all your armor to nirvy, and still have 5.0 sparked.
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