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endlessseek
endlessseek Posts: 1 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
BM and Sins can solo or duo nirvanna. Which you can make 10mil coins in 1hour on one of your character. And you can solo FC with this class and level another class the fastest way possible. so BM and sin is the best class. But BM is cheaper to make than sins and you can do more with BM because your wanted more in squad. So BM is the best class right now i think. Before the best money making class was a veno but that like 2 years ago when i use to play. And now you can multi client...You can easily make 2 5aps class because you make so much money so fast with a BM...then make another 5aps sin in 1month.. Then u have 10aps. Now you can make 20mil+ every hour doing nirvana on double drops with multi client. I know people that do this. That is like 20dollars/hour.. Fastest way to make money here. All other class are useless now, they lack DD and you will have to squad with noobs which take 10-20minutes to form a freaking squad.And you will profit 1-3mil in 1hour.. compared to 20mil perhour is ****in sad. This game is unbalanced. The Herc and Nix sale is useless. You cant do **** with Nix.. Herc is too slow at soloing instance.
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Every post you've made is QQ. Gtfo. You can't be 5.0 just by being a BM.
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  • endlessseek
    endlessseek Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    BM is the cheapest best 5aps DD. Sin is a bit more expensive. But BM is wanted in squads more..So being a BM is more fun. And theyre the 2nd best DD in game. Sin is better DD but just more exnpensive to make.
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You said yourself you can make multiple 5.0 characters. There is no such thing as expensive anymore.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    at OP

    what do you want us to do? what do you want us to say? seriously? you come to the forum to write a wall'o'text but for what?

    you think people are going to stop? no. lol. if you had the ability to make so much money, and someone came here asking you to stop, would you think "wow, hes so right, im going to stop making money because other people are too lazy and/or just dont want to play those characters." no, you wouldnt.

    here are your options:
    1. make a 5 aps character you QQ so much about and get in the game
    2. stop playing the game if it bugs you so much
    3. send tickets to GMs in a slightly more polite and informative manner about how you think it hurts the game (although this would be a waste of time)
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You can solo or duo nirvana? Since when?
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    and why do you think there is so much money to be made in nirvana?

    because making a 5.0 BM or sin is expensive

    5.0 sin requires both nirvana pants and nirvana daggers (or very pricy r6 daggers + pants + even more expensive tome)

    5.0 BM (requires nirvana pants or even more costly tome)

    in addition to all the other somewhat costly interval gear.

    and nothing says you can only play one class, each account has 8 character slots, and 15 gold gets you an account stash stone to share otherwise untradable stuff across all your characters. sooooooo make a 5.0 farming character, find out for yourself how cheap and easy it is to get, and then come cry about how expensive it is.
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  • endlessseek
    endlessseek Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    5aps BM is not that expensive. All you need is tt99 gears and deicide. and nirvy pants.U dont need a freakin 200mil+ tome.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    5aps BM is not that expensive. All you need is tt99 gears and deicide. and nirvy pants.U dont need a freakin 200mil+ tome.

    Go make one then. Farout.
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  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    This is quite awful to read, my head hurts. A block of text, mega QQ and all.

    Spend a lot on the game (your cash, yes), make coins in return. And no, you cannot make $20 per hour. The equivalent yes, but you'll never get hard cold cash from PWI activities, unless you go on shady trades, which are you know... not welcome by the higher ups.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    5aps BM is not that expensive. All you need is tt99 gears and deicide. and nirvy pants.U dont need a freakin 200mil+ tome.
    Try to solo or duo an instance with unrefined gears and mediocre shards, you will get *****.


    Just getting 5 aps isn't enough, you have to refine high and shard well. Oh and deicide doesn't really cut it, you pretty much need to have nirvana/TT100
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    TT99 Boots - 25m
    TT99 Wrists - 15m
    TT99 Neck - 10m
    TT99 Belt - 35m
    NV Legging - 130m
    Decent Deicides - 75m
    Lunar Cape - 50m
    Warsoul Helm - 35m

    Seem expensive yet?

    +5 armours/orns - 5m*10
    Sharding - 700k*3*6

    To solo higher TTs, you'll need G11 cit/vit/JoSD so 20m*3*6
  • Kreuz - Raging Tide
    Kreuz - Raging Tide Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    TT99 Boots - 25m
    TT99 Wrists - 15m
    TT99 Neck - 10m
    TT99 Belt - 35m
    NV Legging - 130m
    Decent Deicides - 75m
    Lunar Cape - 50m
    Warsoul Helm - 35m

    Seem expensive yet?

    +5 armours/orns - 5m*10
    Sharding - 700k*3*6

    To solo higher TTs, you'll need G11 cit/vit/JoSD so 20m*3*6

    Totally cheap!


    And since BMs are born with 5 APS they can easly farm all of it by himself... owait..
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    5aps BM is not that expensive. All you need is tt99 gears and deicide. and nirvy pants.U dont need a freakin 200mil+ tome.

    so go make one, and stop crying
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  • Nightstalk - Raging Tide
    Nightstalk - Raging Tide Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You guys are all so serious.....lol. Hes obviously trying to get a reaction out of you all. Stop feeding the troll.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I'd like to believe that, but he QQs on other threads about BMs so...

    I'd like to see him dual at Ashura Tyrant
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  • ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver
    ThrasherXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    *yawn*

    Is it just me, or has the standard in trolling severely declined recently?
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    They should include a fully geared 5aps sin in packs. really no brains or traning needed to play those.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I'd like to believe that, but he QQs on other threads about BMs so...

    I'd like to see him dual at Ashura Tyrant

    duel b:avoid
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited April 2011
    duel b:avoid

    Actually, dual was right...referring to dual-clienting, since the OP said one could duo Nirvana with dual-cliented 5aps characters.
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    OP what is with you trolling newbs? .__. Seriously, instead of complaining all the time, go play the game and use the money practices you claim are true to make coin.

    No one should listen to OP until he makes a video of HIS characters farming using these techniques. >:U

    Also I'm about to make a Guild called Useless and invite all the people that aren't 5aps. We'll make lots of coin together and OP will QQ regardless.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    OK ladies, lets settle this once and for all.

    Dim Chest: 35% Unc
    Bronze Chest: 50% Unc
    Silver Chest: 60% Unc
    Gold Chest: 75% Unc
    Vanished Ancestor: 60.7500% Unc, 34.1250% Rap, 2 drops.

    So, during double drops, average number of Uncs obtained is the following:

    2*(0.35 + 0.5 + (0.5*0.8 + 0.2) + (0.6*0.8 + 1.2*0.2) + (0.75*0.8 +
    1.5*0.2) + 0.675*2)

    = 8.84 Uncs (sounds about right for a typical run everybody?)

    and for raps:

    .341250 * 4 = 1.365 Raps

    Assuming 380k per Unc, 1.8m per Rap, it's about 5.8m per run. To make 20m an hour, it would require you to finish a run every something like 17 minutes (technically 17.4, but you need time to get back into instance and ****...) Possible with 2 chars? Would it be cheap to make 2 chars with enough DD output to finish a Nirv run in under 20 minutes? Why don't you try it and let us know? Gonna walk in with +5 claws and take an hour or two? BM IS CHEAP!

    Fastest squads I've had is about 6-7min, with squadmates having +10 or better weps, using ADs to block seals, screamer boss AOE, flames, etc, perfect timing of debuffs and amps. Assuming you take a min to reform and get back into instance, that's about 7m an hour per squad mate - not too terrible.

    I can see 2 very talented people dual 2 DDs each and come out with good time, but who wants to work that hard for this game anyway? b:sweat
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  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    BM and Sins can solo or duo nirvanna. Which you can make 10mil coins in 1hour on one of your character. And you can solo FC with this class and level another class the fastest way possible. so BM and sin is the best class. But BM is cheaper to make than sins and you can do more with BM because your wanted more in squad. So BM is the best class right now i think. Before the best money making class was a veno but that like 2 years ago when i use to play. And now you can multi client...You can easily make 2 5aps class because you make so much money so fast with a BM...then make another 5aps sin in 1month.. Then u have 10aps. Now you can make 20mil+ every hour doing nirvana on double drops with multi client. I know people that do this. That is like 20dollars/hour.. Fastest way to make money here. All other class are useless now, they lack DD and you will have to squad with noobs which take 10-20minutes to form a freaking squad.And you will profit 1-3mil in 1hour.. compared to 20mil perhour is ****in sad. This game is unbalanced. The Herc and Nix sale is useless. You cant do **** with Nix.. Herc is too slow at soloing instance.

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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Assuming 380k per Unc, 1.8m per Rap, it's about 5.8m per run. To make 20m an hour, it would require you to finish a run every something like 17 minutes (technically 17.4, but you need time to get back into instance and ****...) Possible with 2 chars? Would it be cheap to make 2 chars with enough DD output to finish a Nirv run in under 20 minutes? Why don't you try it and let us know? Gonna walk in with +5 claws and take an hour or two? BM IS CHEAP!


    Not to mention you also have to pay people to open nirvana, plus money lost from charm ticks, repairs, crab meats, etc. It's been a while since I've seen someone solo/duo nirvana and back then the going rate was about 300k per nirvana key. That alone is 1.2mil per run which brings down profits to 4.6mil per run.
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    150k a key on dw. And yes I know people who solo it regularly, especially on double drops. But it is more profitable to make squads filled with aps and do multi runs that take 6 mins max.
  • Rivierra - Archosaur
    Rivierra - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    oh wow...

    I can't believe I tried to read the OP.
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    edited April 2011
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  • Cadeal - Dreamweaver
    Cadeal - Dreamweaver Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    5aps BM is not that expensive. All you need is tt99 gears and deicide. and nirvy pants.U dont need a freakin 200mil+ tome.

    You clearly have no idea what your talking about
  • fuzzywuzz
    fuzzywuzz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sorry, but Fuzzy doesn't see this thread getting any better.

    OP may be a fan of aps BM's and that is fine, however, the way he chose to post said opinion simply smacks of troll bait to the panda and as such, this thread has come to an end.


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