Low level cleric questions

Ragrog - Sanctuary
Ragrog - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Cleric
I couldn't find a topic on this so I decided to make one. My cleric is level 27, and it has some...survivability issues that I don't seem to have with any other avatars. Every mob he attacks gets only to half health before reaching him then beating the pulp out my poor cleric. Most of the time the only thing that keeps him alive is the silver hiero I have on him even then it doesn't save him all the time. b:sad

My armors, weapons and spam skills are up to date, in fact three pieces of my armor is legendary, am I doing something wrong or are clerics just horrible at low levels and get better as they level like sins?
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  • Fiorrello_ - Raging Tide
    Fiorrello_ - Raging Tide Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    the problem could lay in point distribution, if you are going light armor then i would not be surprised because as everyone knows light armor is terrible and gimps your damage output as an arcane class.

    one thing to keep in mind is that you really don't want any extra vitality points, the hp gain is dramatically disproportional to the damage reduction you will suffer.

    additionally have you been kiting the mobs?
    you have a slow skill for a reason, try spamming it and running
    patience is a virtue
  • Tollingbell - Sanctuary
    Tollingbell - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Maybe don't wait to get hit before healing yourself, i.e. attack once or twice, IH self once or twice, repeat. Figure out how much IH you need depending on the mob you're killing.
    It's TollingBell b:angry
  • Pakoshi - Dreamweaver
    Pakoshi - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    That's pretty much the story of a cleric from mid 20-s till late 30's. Just part of life unless you want to waste time kiting.

    Just started mixing in IHs on a regular basis with your attacks and you should be ok.
  • Ragrog - Sanctuary
    Ragrog - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Thank you everyone. b:victory
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    do you heal yourself before and after? or do you neglect your health and keep on attacking....
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  • jiq
    jiq Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ragrog - Sanctuary wrote: »
    in fact three pieces of my armor is legendary

    You should get Legendary weapon instead, better damage = faster kills.
    Also, get Jones' Blessing, it's useful, even at low lvls.
    Get maxed Cleric buffs from friends / faction if you can, the extra magic attack helps ALOT!
    I remember I could 2-3 hit kill all mobs at your lvl with the stuff I mentioned, and I'm not even pure mag.
    Fast kills = mobs can't reach you.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    most of us grew up with npc gear. i dont see why such things now are suddenly impossible or unthinkable....
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  • Flickerfae - Sanctuary
    Flickerfae - Sanctuary Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Fiorrello_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    additionally have you been kiting the mobs?
    you have a slow skill for a reason, try spamming it and running

    I've never, ever kited on my cleric. On my wizard, yeah. And on my archer, only when the knockback is still on cooldown. But never ever on my cleric.

    It's much easier and faster to just drop an Ironheart or two on yourself and pewpew the mob to death. Yeah, you'll get hit a couple times, but that's that why the heal-over-time aspect of IH is so handy. Also, Plume Shell if you're looking and a mob that hits hard, like a tauroc or a lynx.

    Cleric survivability should be waaaaay above other squishy classes, because of the strength of our heals. We have the heals for a reason, so use them to your advantage!
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  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    most of us grew up with npc gear. i dont see why such things now are suddenly impossible or unthinkable....

    i agree, i used whatever leftovers dropped from mobs, never got lucky in my fb'sb:surrender
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  • Mekkhala - Lost City
    Mekkhala - Lost City Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    The issues I had with dying at low lvls was mostly due to me not understanding how long IH takes to work. Use IH on yourself before you hit the mob. If you wait too long you'll be dead before it starts restoring your hp. You also might need to stack yourself.

    Some people might not agree with this, but I chose to go vit build until I was able to wear gear that could be imbued with at least flawless to make up for the low hp. Dunno if that helps you- but the extra hp padding really helped me.
  • GoogleMaster - Raging Tide
    GoogleMaster - Raging Tide Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I'd say start kiting! Great Cyclone>Run back > GC > run... rinse and repeat till mob is dead. It might be slow but it cuts down your repair bills. o.o Most of the times, the mobs won't even be able to get a shot in which means no HP loss!

    Oh, one more thing, if you don't wanna kite, try a plume shell for increased survivability against physical mobs.
  • Mekkhala - Lost City
    Mekkhala - Lost City Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    GoogleMaster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I'd say start kiting! Great Cyclone>Run back > GC > run... rinse and repeat till mob is dead. It might be slow but it cuts down your repair bills. o.o Most of the times, the mobs won't even be able to get a shot in which means no HP loss!

    Oh, one more thing, if you don't wanna kite, try a plume shell for increased survivability against physical mobs.

    At lvl 27 his mana pool would be gone in two smacks from a phys mob if he put on Plume shell....so then he's left with no shell, a mob up in his face, and no mana to heal himself....
  • GoogleMaster - Raging Tide
    GoogleMaster - Raging Tide Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Mekkhala - Lost City wrote: »
    At lvl 27 his mana pool would be gone in two smacks from a phys mob if he put on Plume shell....so then he's left with no shell, a mob up in his face, and no mana to heal himself....

    o.o I managed to take two adawolf archers down at least before I had to meditate. Yeah, it'll be slow, reeeally slow. Thats why I chose kiting instead! :D No HP loss ftw! b:pleased
  • Mekkhala - Lost City
    Mekkhala - Lost City Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    GoogleMaster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    o.o I managed to take two adawolf archers down at least before I had to meditate. Yeah, it'll be slow, reeeally slow. Thats why I chose kiting instead! :D No HP loss ftw! b:pleased

    Might be because I was vit build at lower lvls, so I didn't have much mana to spare before that.
    I just remember that using Plume shell = major pot spamming for me because my pool was drained after a few hits.
  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cant believe no one has suggested this. Put one earth point into your geanie and give it earthquake, free cleric knock back. Buys you a free hit or two, or a heal or plume shell before they get back to you.

    Also farming basic herbs(i use raging tide) and making level one appo potions called life powders, 50hp recovery per sec doesnt mess around at low-mid lvls
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  • Brittany_Mia - Sanctuary
    Brittany_Mia - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Im lvl 80 cleric.. didnt have to worry so much at lower lvl coz i had an archer as a sheild BUT..... as people have said we have heals for a reason. we have limitless hp with ih (almost atleast :P) so use it..

    And that archer sheild... still going strong :P

    Also get as much hp/phy res in your gear as possible it will help with your survivability.. im full mag build and at lvl 80 can solo the whole of bh59.. with the help from my phy res gear and a little IH...

    Clerics just take a bit of getting used to, they are one of the most strategic classes i know..

    goodluck XD
  • Will_Truman - Dreamweaver
    Will_Truman - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    just do what I do. GC>PS>IH>GC>PS>PS. no need to kite or run around. saves time. it works on every mob I've met so far.
  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Will_Truman - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    just do what I do. GC>PS>IH>GC>PS>PS. no need to kite or run around. saves time. it works on every mob I've met so far.

    It stops working so well later on ~
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  • DudeLupus - Raging Tide
    DudeLupus - Raging Tide Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I know someone else brought it up, but I gotta say again....LIFE POWDERS!! I don't remember the herbs to make them, but they are all over the place. At lvl 21 on my cleric I've already made quite a bit of powders to use when killing lots of mobs. 10 minutes of +50 hp regen keeps us low lvl clerics at max hp the whole time.

    It also saves mana not having to cast IH so much. Then I think there's a lvl 2 apothecary pot you can make that restores 3,000 mp, which really comes in handy when you start doing BH and don't wanna waste time taking a BUNCH of regular pots.

    For both my cleric and wizard, I realized fairly quickly that weapons outweigh armor in terms of priority. More weapon dmg = shorter fights.

    And with the free armor you get when you make a char, you really don't have to buy armor at all until around lvl 30/rank 1. I'm up to lvl 21 on my cleric and still have 18 days left on the free "elder's blessing" armor (which is awesome btw).

    If I were you I'd start saving up for a Wheel of Fate for lvl 43. It's the only weapon you need till lvl 60, but they're usually around 1.5 mil in the AH.
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  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    DudeLupus - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I know someone else brought it up, but I gotta say again....LIFE POWDERS!! I don't remember the herbs to make them, but they are all over the place.

    Golden and nectar, it takes about 10-15mins to farm enough to make like 15 life orbs, aside from keeping you alive as you lvl once your done with a few mobs you can meditate and be back to full hp in the blink of an eye(for those who dont have heals like clerics lol, i use em on my sin while grinding)
    Yeah my sig doesn't match my name...i would say im being all clever and trying to confuse people...but im really just too lazy to make a new one
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  • Prophete - Dreamweaver
    Prophete - Dreamweaver Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    The only mobs that could be a problem are metal resistant physical mobs.
    Other mobs are not a problem.
    As said before, you shouldn't even kite them, just use cyclone>plume shot>cyclone>plume shot, and Ih if you think the mob will have the time to lend some hits on you.

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