PK'ing Secret Passage

_Nuriko_ - Lost City wrote: »

Why is PVP on a ****** PVP server bad? Just because there is a way to draw the mains off there alts and we choose to do it, its bad? I chose a PVP server because i wanted the chance to kill everyone and everything i wanted to. For those complaining its greifing and stopping them from doing quest. So ****ing what, everybody on the damn Lost City server has gone through it. Thats the point of leveling and gearing up so you can actually take on the ****ers who took you out when you were low level. If you dont want pk'd there is more PVE servers then PVP, go reroll, your only a pathetic level 30. Level 30 takes maybe 1-2 days at most.

ColdSnow - Dreamweaver wrote: »

2. ever saw in SZ mobs with agro and bosses? Safe Zone message isnt only a message to inform player about pk.

truekossy wrote: »

Again, see

That, in and of itself, makes it clear that this isn't to protect lowbies.

Attacking other players in the Secret Passage instance (567, 743) is not allowed under any circumstance. It's a bannable offense, and if you get attacked by another player, please submit a ticket with a screenshot of the incident (and ideally the chatlog showing the attack).


Thanks!

This new rule applies, the one you posted is outdated. They changed it back and forward, this one counts and is final. So again...why would they make it bannable, if its not for reason of farming low levels?

And that right there is exactly why. SP has always been a PK hotspot.
Its not here on Dreamwaever anymore, its been always OT and is more comfortable then SP.

On top of that, you mention it being to protect those who can't defend themselves often, but what makes SP so much more special than... say... Old Heaven's Tear? Silver Pool? West Gates? Need I really go on? All areas that aren't cities on the world map are places where a lowbie may be unable to defend themselves in PK and get killed. Why aren't all these other places also deemed as somewhere that has PK bannable?

Cause the most complains came from SP and not other places maybe? Like i said, there is a reason to make this drastic rule. Seems like high levels prefered to farm low levels there, than on any other place.

Of those quests, only one is essential for character development. Also, at least two of those quests can be completed via killing monsters outside Secret Passage.
BH29 is not 3 BHs. It's the same singular boss and he's located inside the Hall of Deception, not secret passage. If one wishes, they can use the Illusion Stone to go to there directly and bypass any PK that may be occurring.

I didnt count those quests, i actually left them out.
1.Kill firemobs
2.Kill Poisonmobs for drop
3.Kill Dig Chest
4.Dig mirror
5.Kill Shade
6.Kill Dismal
7.fb29 (you do remember that noobs lvl29 people have like 100k if not less in their pockets? Why spending on teleporting? And then which noob would know about the stone?)
8.Kill Silver Frost
9. bh has still 3 bosses. in fact people dont stack bh29, they run it 3 times per day, which means they run through SP 3 times to do their bh. If i have only 100k, i wouldnt spend 15k for teleport.

As for the "lots of time" comment, you're greatly exaggerating that. If someone is hypering their levels, they won't be there at all until they need OHT culti chain. If someone is playing a character the old fashioned way and isn't completely new to how this game works, it may be a couple of hours at the most.

It was actually an indirect comment to someone who said, you can reach lvl30 within a day. Would love to see that, if he doesnt hypering in fc.

Like we've said before, the reason given for this rule concerning PK there is complete BS. Especially since it also applies to PvE servers where you must make a conscious decision to enter PK mode and are warned of the consequences.
I m not talking about pve servers, i m talking in common. a rule applies for all servers and most likely this came primary from PvP servers, so pve has to deal with it as well

Interesting... because you also missed my first point in the post you quoted. Everyone with common sense that has played this game for a decent amount of time has come to learn that the safe zone does not apply to monsters. As I've said, running into a safe zone will not protect you from any mobs chasing you. On the other hand, it will protect you from PKers.
1. i never said someone has to protect you, neither that a guard runs after to protect you. 2. why would it be bannable to bring a aoe boss to safe zone, if this message applies only for pk people? He can pull the boss to an area full of noobs, which is not SZ and THAT wouldnt be bannable. Hence Safe mode doesnt apply for me only for pk mode.

Oh and FYI, the boss thing you're talking about has been stated by GMs before to apply only to AoE bosses that could harm other players that were within a safe zone. Taking a boss like.. say... Charr into a sate zone to kill it would be considered perfectly fine until they decide to change that rule too. b:chuckle

kenpachikensai wrote: »

only time someone ACTUALLY has to quest INSIDE Secret Passage is when you need the one of the 3 bosses inside or to dig wheel of earth. which happens only once per character and less than once per day?

the mobs for quest like ossein guard or w.e. can be found outside and is better to do outside since if you about to die then you can fly and lose agro.