Rescind, Narla version 3.0?

_Icon - Archosaur wrote: »

As the title says, it's becoming clear that rescind doesn't look like Elusive version 3.0, it's more like narla version 3.0. Proc or should i say sympathi's just inviting people, whoever they are, whatever faction they're from, and it's making some members inside their faction unhappy. Now that nemesis are losing a lot of people day by day, who will face this faction? Immunity? They're done. Phoenix? LoL. None is more like the answer. So proski, here's my question to you, will you remake elusive to face this faction or you just don't care anymore. I know a lot of people will join you if you do remake elusive, many people do miss that faction, and they did enjoy and loved that faction a lot. Anyways god help this server, it's dead.

/EndOfQQ

@ the first part-
is it me or is every faction thats made a new version of narla or elusive..... wanna know why? because like it or not those faction at their peek were the best factions in this server..... so w.e no point QQing just decide which side u like better (elusive > narla ijs) b:victory

@the second part-
PROSKI ... that being said why dont u do something... this server always turns to proski once their is a power house faction that seemingly cant be beat. on that note >.> proski u should remake it u nabcake (once ur unbanned )

_Icon - Archosaur wrote: »

Elusive > any faction alive ijs b:surrender

idk whos ur main but i love u

stf.u i was ambushed with ma marshals tag..... wts rescind marshal leave offers b:laugh

Sure it is, in the sense that it's the top faction now.

Every TW faction strives for "Narla" status - that is, recruiting to get stronger in TWs, conquering more land, leveling up faction members, leveling up themselves to get stronger and more useful in TW, farming herbs, making the apothecary and charms, and so on. In fewer words, just being #1 faction. Once a faction is #1, the majority of people outside of leadership, no longer wants it. It's actually pretty humorous if you think about it. Being a r9 +12 sin, I face the problem of lack of challenges daily. People can gtfo with the "solo fc with lvl 1 dags"... what's the point, who am I going to brag to over something like that? Nobody is going to care. The same also applies to dumbing yourself down in a TW - fewer cata squads, not using apoth... ideas like this were thrown all around and taken into serious consideration when I was in Nemesis, and will probably happen in Rescind too.

You strive and work towards a goal, and when you accomplish it, you're left with only an ever-increasing TW pay and ever increasingly active faction chat, which can be bad depending on how badly people annoy you.

Once you have 150+ people in your faction, personalities WILL clash, so signups are almost required. Do I hate sign ups? Yes, but I also understand the importance of them, because on many occasions I'll see somebody in faction chat be like "why are they here?" and then the leader is put into an awkward position - older member has a problem with new member, but new member has already been recruited into the faction.

tl;dl = #1 sux

ummm nemesis is not breaking apart so get ur facts st8 please

Even if it's not, everybody gets tired of leading sooner or later, and when they do, new leadership defines the entire structure of a faction. If you disagree, then Rescind = Nemesis = Immunity = Phoenix = DeezNutz

[QUOTE=StudmuffinIX - Archosaur;12933571(...)@the second part-
PROSKI ... that being said why dont u do something... this server always turns to proski once their is a power house faction that seemingly cant be beat. on that note >.> proski u should remake it u nabcake (once ur unbanned )[/QUOTE]

b:shocked proski is banned again???? b:sad ... noooooooo b:cry

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Not hardly. All factions are struggling now with something that never plagued the "Narla" that everyone thinks of: apathy.

Narla prior to the fall of Impulse, noone was apathetic. Period. It was the absolute best faction ever. Period. None of these current factions is even remotely close to that.



A. If he did that, your so-called "new" Narla wouldn't even really exist anymore, at least as presently constructed. Or Elusive wouldn't as it used to exist.

B. The problem with the server at the moment isn't the names of the factions, its the attitude of the players. Pulling the rip cord on Elusive once more won't change that.

C. I love proski, but Elusive's success wasn't really about his "leadership" abilities. It's that he is a horribly likeable chap. If you don't like proski, basically you can take that as a clear indication that there is something wrong with you.

That said, it was the fact that he was so likeable, and that his goal wasn't map domination, or self-aggrandizement, or any of that **** that he was able to assemble some of the biggest egos on the server under one banner. The only goal being fun on a server that, in spite of so much promise, had had far to little of it.

But at least recognize that the greatness of Elusive wasn't proski himself, it was the players. And thats no slam on Proski: he's said the very same thing himself. The players set aside their ego, and came together to beat Narla. Some did it because they were former impulse members who hated Narla. Some did it because they were former Narla memebers who hated what Narla had become, or in a few notable instances wanted to prove something to Narla's current leadership. Some did it for the few fun TWs it produced, always intending to move on once it was done. Some did it because they, quite simply, had nothing better to do.

But in the end, it wasn't proski's leadership at all. It was the players.

Which, quite simply, is why it won't work simply if Proski starts hitting the "invite to faction" button a few hundred times. When the players on the server decide that they want to go to a faction not because of some "family" aspects, which wear out all too quickly, and instead to help balance out TW competition on the server, then and only then will this server have lasting TWs worth showing up for.

But that time is not now. We have plenty of instances of factions outside of nemesis and rescind doing things to AVOID competitive TW. They have learned, im afraid, horribly bad habits from their betters. Yes, the only thing that ever changed TW on our server (and the only thing that will change TW on our server again) is the players. Pure and simple. Regardless of "leadership", and regardless of the name on the banner under which they assemble.

+20^^^

10char

Your siggy says it all!

Lol..whoever you are why dont you use your main and say what you have to say,but you have to make an alt??
I probably have an idea who you are but...whatever.If narla lost some players and they joined Rescind,it doesnt means Rescind is Narla lol...
Wait actually...what happened when a few rescind people joined nemesis?Nemesis=Rescind v2.0?
And each time some faction defeats Narla/Nemesis there has to be drama and that faction is bad,full of asshol*s. Elusive was bad as i remember when we defeated narla?Zulusive was bad too...Now Rescind is bad too since they defeated Nemesis?
But since you say ...Elusive was good and lots of people are missing it...okay(even thou you were probably the first one saying Elusive suxs back then when there was Elusive) b:bye

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

b:laughb:laughb:laugh cool story bro

Say what you want, as more and more of your members join Rescind and others looking for the active pve faction you advertised yourselves as but apparently aren't delivering.

As for me, I play my barb. Lemme give this a try -

"kitty no need faction for pve fun times - kitty have people always asking kitty to join group for fun time, and world chat for kitty to run through bad guys for dem cuz kitty be one tuff kitty, even though kitty have claws and wear wizard gear"

how was that?

Hahahahaaaaa, in the end there can be only ONE true kitty. Wnb, get'im !

Proski brough the elusive people together.

Proc got given that group on a silver platter and made another map raep/dominator faction.

Proski therefore gave Proc the means to make another narla/nemesis, thus being responsible for something he trolled for months on end about preventing.

/end.

No, but he was at the beginning, and proc used same people that had been together with elu, zulu to structure rescind from the start, regardless of where proski is now, treason was last I saw, he played his part.

wnb most of the server thinks your an idiot, so ill just ignore that.

RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »

wnb most of the server thinks your an idiot, so ill just ignore that.

b:angry take that back!!! how dare you speak like that of my favorite troll!!!

Elusive just came at a perfect time... Every month prior to that, there would be an Anti Narla faction form up, and scream the same tune elusive members screamed. No one listened for numerous reasons to them... But lets take a look in history...


1) TW Pay was tossed out, thus turning a NONE FUN CENTRIC faction like narla into now a pointless organized business.. I mean back in those days, TW pay for alot was a huge need, or even just a helpful relief from weekly in game bills.. and the elite few at the top of the ranks were benefiting well im sure.. Narla always had internal issues, people simply hung on like clocking into a job they hated. So of course, when the paychecks ended, why even perform like they demanded of their members? Most the --**** im gonna use this word-- FACTORS they had in faction hated having to do helpful to faction mundane task... They preferred sitting in west polishing their paychecks. So it left them with the option of....go have a fun stress free environment, or sit here and be driven to own the entire map, for absolutely no reason at all....other than to make the leaders e-peen have a viagra overdose.

2) Fatalis and Impulse, with their constant rage quitting leadership, and pampered handful of heavy CS mercenary wannabes, it was inevitable every time they lose a TW to have mass reductions in power players.. And they were their only backbone either of them had.
Along side Narla they lost the ability to force people to show for TWs, make demands on their officers/leaders... and those factions still tried to promote "structure" as if they had a leg to stand on.. People was burnt fast on be demanded upon, and still be a losing faction..

Around this time Elusive like so many pop-up factions before them, was preaching FUN FUN FUN... so where would all the people go? Why not? wagering the difs...stay here...be treated like a weekend grunt, for absolutely no rewards, or go have fun, and kill the faction that most the server either grew up to hate, or wanted to suck their ****.

Most of what was left of Narla up until the last days were those visionaries that still wanted to own the map for whatever e-peen reason. And the mass loads of newbs that joined just so they could have a winning team tag over their head.. What was left of the other two factions, were people with some silly nostalgic attachment to a faction name..

Needless to say, the timing was perfect, because in truth, had PWI not took TW away, Narla would still be around, people would still be clocking in every weekend like blind sheeple...And pop-up factions would still be ignored....

So is there another Narla brewing up? I don't doubt it one bit... Guess those people that PAY to win, will be the ones to choose that fate for us.. Because what made Narla a huge powerhouse, was back in the day all the lvl 100s on the server would flock there... Now days, it will be all the heavy CSers will flock to one organization.

Another Elusive to come and prevent that from happening? Again, thats up to the pay-to-win players to wager whats more important to them,... Sit here and making sure they take the map, and compiling together all of the most expensive players to make sure that happens...

Or actually do like a VERY small handful of people in the same position does, and branch out to promote real TWs...Because really, those big notes will NEVER cover what is spent to have that power.

when I see mass numbers of rank-8/9s roll a faction full of still TT/lunar geared people, I wonder how they can even call that an accomplishment.. Don't get me wrong, I am a big CSer myself... I just refuse to contribute to this movement of owning the whole map, and forcing my weight around an basically ruin it for the rest of the server.. To me its a selfish act to do that. And you ruin the rest of the server's potential to have fun..Also prevents myself from having fun..


So if Proc has it in his head to take over the map...which I don't know for sure whats in his head, only he does, and those few around him.. I hope he ask himself, did he REALLY win it? or simply purchased it too...and will it really be worth MONTHS of 10 min TWs. We already knew Mango wanted that...

I know I use to brow beat on Proski, (mainly for the lulz) But one thing I can say: I respect his movement to promote actual PvP on this server..


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