Level 90+ assassin tips about money and my gear
XDeath$trike - Dreamweaver
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Hey guys.I recently got my sin to lvl 91 and i have to ask some questions.
1st:This is my gear:http://pwcalc.com/375d88fd471f5f7d.Is it good for this lvl?(I have the TT90 gold bracers on my main lvl 94 archer which im not playing but i cant afford making another pair or getting acc stash stone so im using these TT90 green as -0.05 int doesnt increase my sparked att speed).
2nd:What would be a good way to farm money?I used to farm herbs in hell/heaven but recently ppl started to pay lower for it so it's not such a big deal anymore.About running TTs i can solo up to 2-1 and i think maybe even 2-2 tho i didnt try (single mode) but idk if the 2 subs that i have to pay are getting paid even with the mirages.
Ty for your answers ^_^
PS:I'm demon :P
1st:This is my gear:http://pwcalc.com/375d88fd471f5f7d.Is it good for this lvl?(I have the TT90 gold bracers on my main lvl 94 archer which im not playing but i cant afford making another pair or getting acc stash stone so im using these TT90 green as -0.05 int doesnt increase my sparked att speed).
2nd:What would be a good way to farm money?I used to farm herbs in hell/heaven but recently ppl started to pay lower for it so it's not such a big deal anymore.About running TTs i can solo up to 2-1 and i think maybe even 2-2 tho i didnt try (single mode) but idk if the 2 subs that i have to pay are getting paid even with the mirages.
Ty for your answers ^_^
PS:I'm demon :P
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Gear : reasonnable for your lvl.
possibilities : refine more till at least all is +3.
Farming : TT like there's no tomorrow. Gather as many mats as humanly possible, sell in AH. Save up, get rep badges, get rank , get rank gear.
Get into faction squads for TT 3-x to farm mats for your TT99 gear.
and lastly : buy cheap, sell for more. do not buy useless stuff.
that's about it.0 -
Hmm okay ty.And i also have 1 more question.At lvl 100 if i cant get Rank 8 should i put 30 points in str and get 5 aps deicide instead of 2.86 hook and thorns or jut use hooks?
Btw any other answers?:)0 -
XDeath$trike - Dreamweaver wrote: »Hmm okay ty.And i also have 1 more question.At lvl 100 if i cant get Rank 8 should i put 30 points in str and get 5 aps deicide instead of 2.86 hook and thorns or jut use hooks?
Btw any other answers?:)
5 APS Deicides should do more damage than 2.86 H&T. As soon as you can get 3.33 APS, that might change (I know for certain my sage Daggers at 3.33 APS outdamage Sins/Archers/some BMs at 5.0 with Deicides), but most random squads are dumb and don't care about DPS, but APS, so you might have an easier time getting parties with the Deicides, anyway.0 -
Ty.Any other answers?:30
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Going to hijack your post for a sec. What could I solo as far as TTs with this? Would it be about the same as Death, or could I do a bit more?Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »Going to hijack your post for a sec. What could I solo as far as TTs with this? Would it be about the same as Death, or could I do a bit more?
1. for starters, your HP is a bit on the low side to be able to do some TT's.
2. it all depends on the cost really.
explanation : When you're planning do "solo" TT's you have to take into consideration the cost/gain benefits. Soloing a TT 3-1 by example will cost you 3 subs, and will in all probability not give you much in return unless you're very lucky.
Second, your best bet is to start off with a lower TT. Meaning a TT with a lvl requirement "your lvl-10". Meaning TT's for lvl around 80+. Reason for this is simple : while bosses hit less in solo mode, they will still hit pretty hard depending on your gear.
My advice : try with a lower TT and move on the the next lvl upward. Always be charmed, and always use crabmeats. If in the TT you're doing the boss hurts you enough to get in a tight spot, then that's your maximum.
p.s. : lose the evasion belt. Get a decent protection belt (Pdef), way better.
Lastly : if you can afford the Ult.Subs to do TT's, then imo you can afford the mirages to refine your leggings to at least +2 (or 3).0 -
The belt is just to tide me over until TT90 HA, it was cheap and r6 so I got it
I'm getting a warsoul at 95 so that'll amp up my HP a good bit. I know it's a bit low now.
As for the pants, I'll be using Lunar soon (for Myriad Blossom) so I'm not too concerned about them.
I actually have a Sage veno (my girlfriend) with a herc to farm with so a few handicaps won't kill me. I was just curious what I could do with what I have now.
Tyvm for the tip ^^Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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TYPH~!!! b:victory man we can't wait till you're back in action man. I agree on the belt and understand you are waiting on a better piece( im personally using a phys prot belt 3* w/ 2x +4 vit and an evasion neck w/ 2x +5 vit). My sin (my actual 1st main) is approaching your lvls now and im grooming him to do some solo'ing as well.
You are on point with the nature's breath and I was having some doubts about using tt90 gold even though it is a fast route to more aps. the only diff with me is that im gonna be sage, so not focusing too greatly on APS.
I think though the nature's breath is pretty good, that a sky demon's pearl (or cube necklace if you can get one, it IS farmable!!) is a bit better for your HP. also I noticed your cape didn't reflect any sockets, which also effects your HP as well. I believe the FCC gold might ring is lvl 85 so I would recommend that if you can get it too. Otherwise I think you're on the right track and the advice Sthenith gave was very sound.
If you can get to the point where you can solo 2-1 (though i have doubts about solo'ing wurlord past that chapter, if at all), i think you should probably spam that as it has a really good profit vs. cost margin.0 -
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I got a job last week and our housemates got internet. Once I can get a one
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My cape has two sockets, but no shards. I'll just be refining it until I can get Perfects or better for it. Nature's Breath will actually be replaced with TT99 when I have it, probably even TT90
before that.
Sign of Frost: Chaos (and Sign of Frost) is level 95. I think I'll get that eventually.
As I posted earlier, but I don't think anyone noticed, I'll be going with the basic 3.33aps gear.
Guess I need to make an archer so I can get rid of these TT90 gold bracers xPDemon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »5 APS Deicides should do more damage than 2.86 H&T. As soon as you can get 3.33 APS, that might change (I know for certain my sage Daggers at 3.33 APS outdamage Sins/Archers/some BMs at 5.0 with Deicides), but most random squads are dumb and don't care about DPS, but APS, so you might have an easier time getting parties with the Deicides, anyway.
Um, level 100 with Ocean Supreme Daggers is superior to Deicides.
Compare this to this. The former has 62,732 dps, whereas teh latter has 51,421.
Also, the Ocean Supreme build is much cheaper, as you save a good 30-50m on not buying a Deicide.
And even speaking of Hook and Thorn for 100 is hilarious, since Ocean Supreme Dagger is vastly superior to it and pretty much free.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Um, level 100 with Ocean Supreme Daggers is superior to Deicides.
Compare this to this. The former has 62,732 dps, whereas teh latter has 51,421.
Also, the Ocean Supreme build is much cheaper, as you save a good 30-50m on not buying a Deicide.
And even speaking of Hook and Thorn for 100 is hilarious, since Ocean Supreme Dagger is vastly superior to it and pretty much free.
True.
My current setup is a little different (les str in stat, 2 Band fom Hjail rings) , but i must say the ocean supremes are just plain awesome.
You can oc go for nirvy daggers, or eve nrank9 for that matter, but compared to deicides and whatnot, the R8 daggers beats it all because of the cost. 2 Mill for R8 2sockets. Speaking of H&T at 100 is indeed a bit useless.
Most nirvy squads are indeed stupid. 5.0 aps with deicides vs 3.33 OS daggers ? Ocean beats that hands down.0 -
Sthenith - Dreamweaver wrote: »My current setup is a little different (les str in stat, 2 Band fom Hjail rings) , but i must say the ocean supremes are just plain awesome.
The truth is, General's Badge is better than Band from Heaven's Jail, as it gives you more DPS, more life and more crit%. And it's free.You can oc go for nirvy daggers, or eve nrank9 for that matter, but compared to deicides and whatnot, the R8 daggers beats it all because of the cost. 2 Mill for R8 2sockets. Speaking of H&T at 100 is indeed a bit useless.
Costwise, Rank 8 beats just about everything. You get a free 2 sockets, which would cost you 2,000 socket stones and 42 Chienkun stones to transfer from Barrier Thorn: Gutbreaker to Barrier Thorn: Nirvana. Hitman Legend costs 100,000,000+. If you used the cost of the most expensive weapon as a standard and using the overflow on better refines and shards in the optimal manner, you'd end up comparing something like a +10 Ocean Supreme Dagger to a +7 Hitman Legend to a +0 Barrier Thorn: Nirvana.
Just happens that if you compare them on an equal standing, Ocean Supreme Dagger losts out when you have higher -interval and refine.Most nirvy squads are indeed stupid. 5.0 aps with deicides vs 3.33 OS daggers ? Ocean beats that hands down.
Well yeah. I went Sage so I'll probably be looking at 2.22 aps on 100 until I can get a tome or Nirvana leggings. Because of that, I predict I might not get places in the highest APS squads. Well, ironic as it might be, I could buy an Account Stash Stone, move all of my gear to my Demon Archer, buy him a Deicide and have 5 aps. That is my backup plan.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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General's Badge is better than Band from Heaven's Jail, as it gives you more DPS, more life and more crit%. And it's free.
Seriously, no.
I've put my setup into pwcalc :http://pwcalc.com/cd005e7b09a89d45
On this setup the dmg is DIFFERENT from what i see in my char screen ingame.
but even so, just changing the ring to the generals bade gives this :
http://pwcalc.com/7f5fc84d84c870ae
As you can clearly see, the dmg LOWERS. and in char screen, for quite a bit really.
You know why ? Simple :
- Generals badge : 125 Pattack
- Band from Heavens Jail : 95 Pattack + 38 Patk (!) = 133 Patk.
Not to mention i LOSE 6 dex by removing 1 Band, so when you calculate it into the formula, i LOSE dmg power.
Suure, i gain crit, but thought about this : My STATS ? I have to restat more into STR, thus, again, losing DEX. Meaning i lose dmg again. (Restat more into str for the warsoul helmet).
Honestly, i have run this trough every possible scenario, and even have restatted coming from 117 str (for warsoul). Generals badge compared to my setup for Dmg, simply sucks, i lose to much dex (thus also crit). The only thing good about it is that its free indeed.
P.s. : dex i lose : 7 dex from ring (only 1 removed) , and the dex i lose from restatting more into str to be able to wear warsoul. And thats about total 14 dex.
P.s.2 : The only reason i would restat now is for the ring of trauma. Cause nothing beats that one. But it's freaky costly.0 -
Sthenith - Dreamweaver wrote: »Seriously, no.
I've put my setup into pwcalc :http://pwcalc.com/cd005e7b09a89d45
On this setup the dmg is DIFFERENT from what i see in my char screen ingame.
but even so, just changing the ring to the generals bade gives this :
http://pwcalc.com/7f5fc84d84c870ae
As you can clearly see, the dmg LOWERS. and in char screen, for quite a bit really.
You know why ? Simple :
- Generals badge : 125 Pattack
- Band from Heavens Jail : 95 Pattack + 38 Patk (!) = 133 Patk.
Not to mention i LOSE 6 dex by removing 1 Band, so when you calculate it into the formula, i LOSE dmg power.
Suure, i gain crit, but thought about this : My STATS ? I have to restat more into STR, thus, again, losing DEX. Meaning i lose dmg again. (Restat more into str for the warsoul helmet).
Honestly, i have run this trough every possible scenario, and even have restatted coming from 117 str (for warsoul). Generals badge compared to my setup for Dmg, simply sucks, i lose to much dex (thus also crit). The only thing good about it is that its free indeed.
P.s. : dex i lose : 7 dex from ring (only 1 removed) , and the dex i lose from restatting more into str to be able to wear warsoul. And thats about total 14 dex.
Um, crits add to your average DPS.
Taking your own links, the first one has an average DPS of 22,984, whereas the latter, after adding the remaining 7 str to dex, has 23,142 average DPS. Of course, the actual increase in average DPS is even larger when you factor in Wolf Emblem.
And also, if you're properly prepared, you do not need to restat. I'll personally be going from 2x Band from Heaven's Jail to 1x Band and General's Badge on 100 and I won't be restatting anything. You see, I'll be keeping 2 points from leveling up on 99 and then putting 7 to strength on 100 and I'll have exactly what I need with no restatting.
It's quite simple math, actually. You really shouldn't go claiming stuff just based on what you can see by looking.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Anyway i said deicides instead of hook and thorn bcuz idk if there will be any sale when i'll be 100 and still im looking for a way to make money so help me plz 0
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For me, I noticed that 5.0 Deicides +4 with 1 g7 garnet at level 99 pure dex (min str stat for deicides) did roughly the same damage as a 2.86 H&T +3 with 2 g7 garnets. Roughly in terms that H&T slightly outdamages it, but the 5.0 portion with the claws made it a permaspark.
That reason, along with experiencing 5 aps for the first time, and getting the weapon insignia for 30m, is why I used Decides, along with H&T, from level 99 to 100. I sold the claws for 42m later. b:victory[SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony[/SIGPIC]
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Uhm I checked the calc and i removed all aps clothes to study something. when all aps clothes were off you had 1.67 aps so i removed all clothes and it still was. i opened a new calc and it had 1.25 just like normal. so what happened?b:questionOlbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Um, level 100 with Ocean Supreme Daggers is superior to Deicides.
Compare this to this. The former has 62,732 dps, whereas teh latter has 51,421.
Also, the Ocean Supreme build is much cheaper, as you save a good 30-50m on not buying a Deicide.
And even speaking of Hook and Thorn for 100 is hilarious, since Ocean Supreme Dagger is vastly superior to it and pretty much free.0 -
Soeren - Harshlands wrote: »Uhm I checked the calc and i removed all aps clothes to study something. when all aps clothes were off you had 1.67 aps so i removed all clothes and it still was. i opened a new calc and it had 1.25 just like normal. so what happened?b:question
... It's this mysterious thing called Demon Spark. I hear it increases attack speed. Not sure though, since I'm a sage.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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i recently aquired lvl 90 know i know my char like the back of my hand and i have a unigue fighting style, but i have never gotten a char this high. so im asking wat is the best gear to get for lvl 90s. and yes im going demon. i want aps if possible0
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