Gale Force change

Yeah, I've noticed too. The skill description hasn't changed so I guess it was bugged before... but I liked it so much more then. lol
Wish they'd stop mobs/pets from running away with seal

well that sucks. that explains why it wasnt working when i was using it today... awww man pwi always does this, they give us something good then they jack it up. b:angry

great... what use do we have in fc now? besides helping out a cleric. if our aoes are just going too **** everyone off theyre not going to want to invite mystics anymore. unless we just spam cragglord aoes all the time... which would take a crapload of sparks and mp to summon him. i wish one of our plants at least did an aoe paralyze ... id be ok with that instead of sleep lol.

but seriously, i kept thicket at 5 because people freaked out when mobs were running away like "omg the mobs are resetting" now i might as well lvl it because it does the same effect as gale now but with less chance of running away and more dmg and paralyze/seal time. but does thickets aoe have as big of a range?

Hush and Gale force were what I used in FF, and GF is still better than thicket on pulls for the simple fact that if any DO run they don't run far. Thicket runners keep running, and running, usually right into another group of mobs as opposed to ANY other direction.

Considering how relatively useless seal is, since any attack/channeling they are already doing still continues while sealed I wish it wouldn't even do it.

Or, and I know this is asking for the largest miracle ever as far as this game goes, could they just make it so that mobs DON"T FLEE LIKE THEY ARE ON FIRE when they get sealed? Its why I never use soul of silence, why I rarely used Parasitic nova, nave no use for throat cut and now about half my attack skills are pretty limited in use due to seal runners and swirling mist being a conditional dot.

This has annoyed EVERY class, both the ones using said skills and the people that have to put up with it since day one. I can't imagine anyone being in favor, aside from incurable trolls, of having mobs run away in every direction when people use one of their most damaging skills.

wouldnt it be better to use cragg for big pulss sinse u can blast out muliple aoes?

Yes Gale Force used to do both

I was just starting to raise Gale Force because of how well it worked in instances, too... b:sad How could they do this? Now I'm back to poking one mob at a time.

Martincho - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thicket
Focuses Sparks to summon plants, which deal
Wood damage equal to 12 times Weapon
Damage plus 3755.
Has a chance to Silence and Freeze the target.

Thicket should be fixed to do both silence and freeze consistently, then.

It is indeed an AOE, the range of the AOE isn't that high however...

...and yes Gale Force used to do both silence and freeze in place even with the description pointing the other way...guess the ends didn't justify the means this time b:cry

Having spammed it about every chance I could since patch I have to say, for myself anyways, the chance of freeze is much less than seal.

Like I can have it seal a mob about 1 in 4 trys and freeze 1 in 13 trys. Both is about 1 in 20.

It has just become too unpredictable. With one effect being to stop the mobs (with low chance) and the other to make them run away (much higher chance) its kinda up to the individual on how they want to classify its purpose.

You can either think of it as an aoe knockback that fails frequently, or an aoe freeze that fails frequently. B4 I would use it like I would earth vector or glacial shards TO AOE CATCH MOBS. If they were running towards me, or away from me, or just respawned, or I just wanted to aoe a group I would use it.

Unlike glacial shards or EV, GF had a much lower chance to proc, had a lil less of a duration, didn't stop attacks already in progress like a stun would, AND required me to be in the middle of the mobs instead of at max range. I was gambling on it procing more than I would any of my psy's control skills, because anyone that uses EV and fails wants a bm around to roar if possible. BMs get to spam a 100% aoe stun, and we get to have the new and "improved" gale force.

It can no longer be classified as a control skill because there is a complete lack of control with its use now. B4 it was one of the skills that made the class special. I liked that the duration of the seal+freeze was perfectly timed to follow up with bramble tornado. I assumed that the two skills were made to be complimentary, and with 30 chi cost for both it seemed like they were a lil more balanced than psys who don't need chi for ANY of their spam/control skills other than earth vector.

If I was gambling on people rerolling my shiny new classes, I wouldn't break a skill that everyone was enjoying. The changes to rez are positive at least. I just think that if any skills needs to be nerfed it would be thicket. I can't imagine too many people having even known what gale force was in the first place, let alone QQed about it enough to get the devs to change it.

Were the chinese players burning down their forums over it? More than they do about sins, aps, psys, and idk what else they QQ about.

I wish that a complete negative reaction of players to this change actually counted for something, or that the decision to change it was made after considerable debate and consideration by players. It may have been, but sadly not in this game or on these forums.

Personally it feels like they had already decided on the sage/demon effects and realized that it would give the skill 85% chance to freeze so they lowered chance to freeze by 35% so people would go demon to get it to work again lol