Build For Seeker Overview

momamo
momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Seeker
This is by no means another thread about "What is the perfect Seeker build? Can anyone help me?".

Here I want to summerize all the builds that are suggested by the community/players in all the threads about "Seeker build" in the forum section.

This thread is to help new players that are too lazy to look in threads that are already answering/giving information and instead just open a new thread.

So here goes:

Please remeber Seekers can only use Swords/Blades and Dual Swords/Dual Blades. That means you want at least 4 STR/3 DEX every TWO levels. I prefer Heavy Armor on Seeker that's why you should have at least 5 STR/ 1 DEX every TWO levels. I've read that some suggest Light Armor on Seeker, for that you want at least 1 STR/1 DEX per level. (I strongly recommend going for Heavy Armor, but as I already mentioned above, this is just a summery of what I've read in all the threads about "Seeker Build"?

On a side note: Seeker get 15HP/1 Vit


Conclusion: That means you MUST have at least 5 STR/ 3 DEX every TWO levels to have Heavy Armor and be able to wield a Weapon.


The 6 STR/4 DEX Build (commenly used by Blademasters):

-For this build you want to allocate 3 STR/2 DEX each level

-pros: High DMG
Very High Accuracy
Very High Evasion

-cons: Low HP, because of the lack of Vitality
Expensive for new players (needs money support from higher level characters)

Conclusion/special notes:

For this build you want to shard your gear for the lacking HP. I advice not to use this build if you are a new player, because it's fairly expensive to Shard your gear. But if you have some experience with PW and think you can do fairly well even without the bonus HP from VIT by all means go for this build.


The 5 STR/3 DEX/2 Vit Vuild (my Build):

-For this build you want to allocate 3 STR/2 DEX every EVEN level and 2 STR/2 VIT/1 DEX every UNEVEN level.

-pros: Good for new players, because you get extra HP from VIT
Not so expensive
High Accuracy
High Evasion

-cons: Lowest DMG (because it uses the minimum STR needed) + High Accuracy

Conclusion/special note:

Many players want to cap their VIT at some point for this build. The most popular caps are at 30 VIT (25 x 15HP = 375HP) and 45 VIT (45 x 15HP = 675HP). I recomend this build for players who do NOT have higher/high level characters to support them with money.


The 7 STR/3 DEX Build:

-For this build you might want to allocate 5 STR on EVEN levels and 2 STR/3 DEX on UNEVEN levels. This is basically like the 6 STR/ 4 DEX build, but due to the fact that Seekers cannot use Fists/Claws the extra Dex is put into STR

-pros: Highest DMG possible
High Accuracy
High Evasion

-cons: Lowest HP, because of the lack of VIT
Expensive for new players --> gear sharding (needs money support from higher level characters)

Conclusion/special note:

Just like the first build this build doesn't implement VIT in its build, so you want to shard your gear to compenstae for the low HP. I strongly recommend not to use this build as a new player, because of money issues.


The 5 STR/5 DEX Build:

-For this build I suggest to alocate 5 STR (EVEN) and 5 DEX (UNEVEN).

-pros: Highest possible Accuracy
Highest possible Evasion

-cons: Lowest DMG, because it's the minimum 5 STR that's needed to wield a weapon and armor
Low HP due to the lack of VIT
Gear needs to be sharded --> expensive (needs money support from high level characters)

Conclusion/special note:

Just like the other builds that do not distribute VIT, do it if you have enough money to shard your gear. I strongly advide not to use this build as a novice player.


The End:

There also was someone who suggested the BARB build (STR/ DEX weapon/armor requirement and the rest into VIT). I think it was a joke and thus refrained from adding it here.

All these builds were mentioned in the various threads in this seeker forum. I just collected them to provide new players with all the information in one POST.

I do not tell you what build you MUST choose. I provided you with the pros and cons (that I know) for every build, now you should be able to choose whichever you prefer. You might even have your own build and by all means take the build that you are comfortable with.
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    momamo wrote: »
    This is by no means another thread about "What is the perfect Seeker build? Can anyone help me?".

    Here I want to summerize all the builds that are suggested by the community/players in all the threads about "Seeker build" in the forum section.

    This thread is to help new players that are too lazy to look in threads that are already answering/giving information and instead just open a new thread.

    So here goes:

    Please remeber Seekers can only use Swords/Blades and Dual Swords/Dual Blades. That means you want at least 4 STR/3 DEX every TWO levels. I prefer Heavy Armor on Seeker that's why you should have at least 5 STR/ 1 DEX every TWO levels. I've read that some suggest Light Armor on Seeker, for that you want at least 1 STR/1 DEX per level. (I strongly recommend going for Heavy Armor, but as I already mentioned above, this is just a summery of what I've read in all the threads about "Seeker Build"?

    On a side note: Seeker get 15HP/1 Vit


    Conclusion: That means you MUST have at least 5 STR/ 3 DEX every TWO levels to have Heavy Armor and be able to wield a Weapon.


    The 6 STR/4 DEX Build (commenly used by Blademasters):

    -For this build you want to allocate 3 STR/2 DEX each level

    -pros: High DMG
    Very High Accuracy
    Very High Evasion

    -cons: Low HP, because of the lack of Vitality
    Expensive for new players (needs money support from higher level characters)

    Conclusion/special notes:

    For this build you want to shard your gear for the lacking HP. I advice not to use this build if you are a new player, because it's fairly expensive to Shard your gear. But if you have some experience with PW and think you can do fairly well even without the bonus HP from VIT by all means go for this build.


    The 5 STR/3 DEX/2 Vit Vuild (my Build):

    -For this build you want to allocate 3 STR/2 DEX every EVEN level and 2 STR/2 VIT/1 DEX every UNEVEN level.

    -pros: Good for new players, because you get extra HP from VIT
    Not so expensive
    High Accuracy
    High Evasion

    -cons: Lowest DMG (because it uses the minimum STR needed) + High Accuracy

    Conclusion/special note:

    Many players want to cap their VIT at some point for this build. The most popular caps are at 30 VIT (25 x 15HP = 375HP) and 45 VIT (45 x 15HP = 675HP). I recomend this build for players who do NOT have higher/high level characters to support them with money.


    The 7 STR/3 DEX Build:

    -For this build you might want to allocate 5 STR on EVEN levels and 2 STR/3 DEX on UNEVEN levels.

    -pros: Highest DMG possible
    High Accuracy
    High Evasion

    -cons: Lowest HP, because of the lack of VIT
    Expensive for new players (needs money support from higher level characters)

    Conclusion/special note:

    Just like the first build this build doesn't implement VIT in its build, so you want to shard your gear to compenstae for the low HP. I strongly recommend not to use this build as a new player, because of money issues.

    The End:

    There also was someone who suggested the BARB build (STR/ DEX weapon/armor requirement and the rest into VIT). I think it was a joke and thus refrained from adding it here.

    All these builds were mentioned in the various threads in this seeker forum. I just collected them to provide new players with all the information in one POST.

    I do not tell you what build you MUST choose. I provided you with the pros and cons (that I know) for every build, now you should be able to choose whichever you prefer. You might even have your own build and by all means take the build that you are comfortable with.

    your build essentially IS the "barb build" just dont cap the vit
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  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    your build essentially IS the "barb build" just dont cap the vit

    You are slightly missing my point here. BARBS choose a particular weapon or armor piece or both and slowly build there STR/DEX towards that item of choice and put the rest into VIT. Ideally they use weapons for about 10 lvls.

    The 5 STR/ 3 DEX /2 VIT build allows you to always and at all times wear the latest armor/weapon, which is not (always) the case with the BARB build.

    If any BARB is viewing this I don't know how to explain it better than that. So if any BARB knows how to explain it better please help me with this one.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    i've also seen at least one player suggest a 5str/5dex build. i'm personally dubious if the extra accuracy and crits would really be enough to make it worthwhile, however.
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  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    i've also seen at least one player suggest a 5str/5dex build. i'm personally dubious if the extra accuracy and crits would really be enough to make it worthwhile, however.

    Thank you very much for your input, I will add this right away ( as this thread should be a summary of all the builds suggested here)
  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    momamo wrote: »
    You are slightly missing my point here. BARBS choose a particular weapon or armor piece or both and slowly build there STR/DEX towards that item of choice and put the rest into VIT. Ideally they use weapons for about 10 lvls.

    The 5 STR/ 3 DEX /2 VIT build allows you to always and at all times wear the latest armor/weapon, which is not (always) the case with the BARB build.

    If any BARB is viewing this I don't know how to explain it better than that. So if any BARB knows how to explain it better please help me with this one.

    you are missing the point. after 10 levels, in order to wear the newest gear, you have to add 50 str and 20 dex for on level HA and axes. to compensate for swords, you add 30 dex
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  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    you are missing the point. after 10 levels, in order to wear the newest gear, you have to add 50 str and 20 dex for on level HA and axes. to compensate for swords, you add 30 dex

    I don't really see how you can not understand the difference between the 5 STR/ 3 DEX/ 2 VIT build and the BARB build. I strongly advice you to go over to the BARB section of the forum and read it up.

    TEN levels = 10 x 5 Stat Points = 50 Stat Points

    To your information, to wear the latest Heavy Armor every TEN levels you need to put at least 25 STR (in words: Twentyfive) and regarding Seekers using Swords/blades and their DUAL counterparts 25 STR would be it for the weapons too. Due to the fact that I need 15 DEX every TEN levels I have 10 FREE POINTS

    And as for a BARB it's at least 6 STR every TWO levels making it 30 STR for TEN levels to wear the latest AXE and with 30 STR you can easily wear the latest Heavy Armor too. Now concerning the BARBS only need ONE DEX every TWO levels means TEN DEX every TEN levels. With this they Also have TEN FREE POINTS.

    You see the difference now?

    Now to your calculation, saying I need 50 STR and 30 DEX every TEN levels (because I use SWORDS) is so wrong! Everyone can see that you need 80 Stat Points (in words Eighty) if it would be like you said, which is clearly not possible due to the fact that you only get 5 Stat Points every level.

    I do think that rare Weapons/Armor require less than their normal standard counterpart. That means more points for BARBS to put into VIT.

    Furthermore VIT is capped as some point as you already mentioned, that's why it's essentially and fundamentally different.
  • Omea - Lost City
    Omea - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    momamo wrote: »
    The 7 STR/3 DEX Build:
    -cons: Expensive for new players (needs money support from higher level characters)

    What do you mean with this?
    How come, if someone asks a question in a forum, at least 13/20 posts answers the question in the same exact way, 5/20 word the exact same answer differently and 2/20 say something completely unrelated to both life and death?
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I think some of this can be a bit missleading on the "new people cant afford this or that"

    Seekers leveling up their self defense buff, actually will have higher survability than the extra "375 HP" would give...
  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    vristion wrote: »
    I think some of this can be a bit missleading on the "new people cant afford this or that"

    Seekers leveling up their self defense buff, actually will have higher survability than the extra "375 HP" would give...

    You might be right on this one, but for instance look at the BM. Everyone tells you to go the "All Weapon Build a.k.a 6 STR/4 DEX" supporting their argument with "BM's don't need HP, firstly they are Heavy Armor, secondly they have their self heal". But I've seen so many BM's die round their 20's-40's with this build, because thex either have low micro/skill, are just bad/don't have any experience with this game or mass "level quested to the point that they are underfarmed in terms of money.

    Furthermore, in your 30's to 40's you will have some issues with your HP, I even go so far as to say in you 20's. SO now to why I say "expensive for new players": You need your latest gear at these levels to really be able to kill the mobs without wastintg MASS healing potions. So if you shard every piece of gear just to get your HP up again after receiving the latest gear possible, plus the expenses for Skills you can see where my standpoint is.

    Last but not least TOO many "newbs" don't grab the coin drops further leaving them back in terms of money farming.

    I don't say it's a NONONONONONO for new players. I say it's not recommended, but everyone his own?
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    momamo wrote: »
    You might be right on this one, but for instance look at the BM. Everyone tells you to go the "All Weapon Build a.k.a 6 STR/4 DEX" supporting their argument with "BM's don't need HP, firstly they are Heavy Armor, secondly they have their self heal". But I've seen so many BM's die round their 20's-40's with this build, because thex either have low micro/skill, are just bad/don't have any experience with this game or mass "level quested to the point that they are underfarmed in terms of money.

    Furthermore, in your 30's to 40's you will have some issues with your HP, I even go so far as to say in you 20's. SO now to why I say "expensive for new players": You need your latest gear at these levels to really be able to kill the mobs without wastintg MASS healing potions. So if you shard every piece of gear just to get your HP up again after receiving the latest gear possible, plus the expenses for Skills you can see where my standpoint is.

    Last but not least TOO many "newbs" don't grab the coin drops further leaving them back in terms of money farming.

    I don't say it's a NONONONONONO for new players. I say it's not recommended, but everyone his own?
    i agree vit is useful at low and new players. Although when i was blademaster i died alot with the 3str 2 dex but at 70 higher it was actually as good as a tank build sometimes better. Also seeker suc taking aggro, besides i dont need to worry about health anymore cause a cleric will heal me for tank. In fact i am going to get rid of vit
    all together at 70 cause i have shard and refines on those gears, time for me to stop being a tank and anyways i am never good at getting aggro anyways my style is a blademaster dd build so 3str and 2dex for me no longer squishy now :D.

    Sory if my spelling is dodgy, blame teh iphone and the **** 3g connection.b:cry
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  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Well most part, even adding VIt at low levels, they gonna die alot... They will encounter ALOT, and i mean TONS more magic dealers ath those levels..

    So what I did was actually shard magic resistance at low levels... helped quite a bit..

    Also low low level gears can be socketed for next to nothing in cost.. Most vet players dont think about this because they fly through those levels not even condidering the ability to 4 socket most gears at those levels for the cost of a handful of the DQ items that drop frequently while doing the mundane quest..

    So if added HP/resistance is needed, and they will be stuck with that same gear for atleast 20+ levels, its is well worth it.
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    vristion wrote: »
    Well most part, even adding VIt at low levels, they gonna die alot... They will encounter ALOT, and i mean TONS more magic dealers ath those levels..

    So what I did was actually shard magic resistance at low levels... helped quite a bit..

    Also low low level gears can be socketed for next to nothing in cost.. Most vet players dont think about this because they fly through those levels not even condidering the ability to 4 socket most gears at those levels for the cost of a handful of the DQ items that drop frequently while doing the mundane quest..

    So if added HP/resistance is needed, and they will be stuck with that same gear for atleast 20+ levels, its is well worth it.

    xD yeah i still died alot lol. Sometimes i wished didn t go tank, i am wasting 3.5mil xD now but xD its worth it, :D i need power and accuracy :D!. I guess thats why my blademaster is xD powerful. You have opened my eyes :D. You and the blademaster and the perfect world cacualator. The difference between my blademaster and seeker in defence with the same gear and buffs is very small.
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  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Yea I am thinking seekers will be more gear orientated, rather than -build- based... wondering if lunar gear line be better for seeker?b:question
  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I totally agree with you on all of this. But still new players tend to buy equipment from NPC and thus wasting their already low amount of gold.

    What i saying is, you should be saving the gold if you can. So why not going for the "VIT build" to save some money early game.
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I dont know, but when I think of low end melee classes, I agree...some of the VIT can be a bit of an added bonus..


    HOWEVER! when I think of the seeker, some reason im brought back to the "full attack" cleric days of "killing them before they reach you"

    A bit squishy! but packs enough punch to knockem dead before doing anything.. They just need to know what skills to use on what paticular mobs.
  • momamo
    momamo Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    And exactly that won't be possible for new players, right? Ofc I agree with the skill-spamming. It's a great way to kill mobs in the early levels.
  • _Severn_ - Harshlands
    _Severn_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    My Build is a 5 str 3 dex 2 vit every 2 levels till i caped my vit at 50 then i switched to a 7str 3 dex
  • Tojop - Dreamweaver
    Tojop - Dreamweaver Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Seekers actually get more than 15 hp per vit, when you consider a permanent +30 defense level. At 75+, you can just spam vortex anyways, which doesn't get very much of its damage from your base stat, even less so if you level it. That's my reasoning for going min str/dex and full vit on mine.

    Aaaaaaand...rank armors have no stat requirements b:quiet
  • Moroboshi - Raging Tide
    Moroboshi - Raging Tide Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    The Vit Build helps to survive the Public Quest too.
    an I dont think ther is much difference between the +7 str +3 Dex
    and the +5 Str +3 dex +2 vit Builds.
    Because Strength doesn't increase the Attack so much.

    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Damage


    I made the 4th and 6th place in the Public Quest Today b:victory
  • Melodi_ - Archosaur
    Melodi_ - Archosaur Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Really good advice for a Seeker player,sure I already build my seeker pretty good but, more tips and advice are very welcome to me. I put all points in STR only some points in DEX if I need it to armor or weapons, but I thinking about I need to put less 1 point in VIT,coz I damage alot but not so much HP and if the monsters hit me in almost same lvl or over me,I loose pretty fast much HP so I feel more safe with Guardian Charm both in MP and HP coz Seekers Attacks take lot of MP,and that is very annoying.