Multi-Clienting Rule Changes

Morrzan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thanks PWI, 4 people in my family that play PW actively... cleans things up a lot.
b:victory

That's pretty cool actually, wish my mom played PWI with me....well, maybe not.

If she died in a BH or something she'd probably make me do chores b:cry

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This is awful.

this is moronic. and rather unclear.

i'd just been thinking i might have to get into merchanting after all --- seems i might be able to get a complete veno sage/demon book set with as little as sixty mil or so, if my math is right, and i've a couple mil to invest; unless WarrenWolfy's a brazen liar, that should be a doable proposition --- but i'm actively leveling chars on both the accounts i have. and i like to switch back and forth between them a lot, without advance notice.

so, no problem, i'd start a third account purely for catshopping and use that for nothing else while switching back and forth between the other two accounts for actual gaming. i don't need to game on more than one character at a time, i get confused enough playing from just one viewpoint. i have a spare PC, i could do this under the old rules.

under these new rules, the gaming behavior i'm describing seems like it should be entirely legit, and frankie went into a lot of detail over several paragraphs of text as to how this should be perfectly legit. but the number of accounts i'd have for my one single individual person would be arguably bannable --- ruled so in one terse sentence, without any further detail or explanation as to why.

these guys are just constitutionally incapable of writing a clear, unambiguous set of rules, for anything.

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Someone at your office decided to change the name that appears on the client window from "Element Client" to "Perfect World International". The Launcher is still checking for Element Client. That is why the launcher will allow you to launch multiple clients. Even when the Launcher prohibited running a second client, all you needed to do was double click elementclient.exe to open a second client. Patcher.exe does not check for another running instance of the client, it only checks for another window named "Element Client"...

...i should have guessed they implemented it that way. i really should've guessed...

(FYI, for non-geeks: there's about a dozen better ways for a program, or set of related programs, to check if another copy is already running. inter-process communication, shared memory, named pipes, lock files, opening a network socket to listen only on localhost... loads of ways. checking for a window title is a STUPID-*** way. it's also lazy, simple, and fast, so of course that's the one they'd use...)

I'm not exactly clear on the rule changes.

So now I'm allowed to log on my main acct and alt acct on the same PC to buff the mains, right?

Zankanto - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm not exactly clear on the rule changes.

So now I'm allowed to log on my main acct and alt acct on the same PC to buff the mains, right?

Something like that. With the change you can have two accounts logged, it doesn't matter if it's in one or two pcs, and you actively play both of them or just use one to buff the other. You can mix and match anyway you want the characters you may have on those accounts as long as it's just two at the time.

Also, if currently you have only one account you can only create a second one and no more. If you previously had more than two you can actively play only with two of them at once.

I am confused... What about the people with multiple alternates BEFORE this rule was in place?


And to anyone wondering, it doesn't matter what YOU do, admins/mods can STILL see your IP address when you post. That's part of being a forum mod/admin. So I have heard they can ban your IP if you are doing too much "suspicious activity'

I want to thank the folks at PW for once again creating policies that are clear and provide a level playing field for all.

b:victory

I used to multi-client a lot on a different MMORPG, but have avoided here because of the previous prohibition.

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

As I was reading the start of this I was like "Oh yay, now I can multi-client for any given reason I want without fuss", I carry on reading and it just turns into a giant lol of stupid pointless randomly made up rules of "2 per person", seriously PWE, stop making stupid *** rules and creating more hassel for players and staff.

The only reason I can think of this 2 per person rule us, you don't want people with multiple alts to run things like TT squad mode with there alts, you want them to cash shop some +10-12 gear and then run it on there own etc etc, way go to pwe once again...way to go.

On the contrary, they have enabled everybody to duo them without needing two computers. The only thing that can't be done anymore is opening it with 1-3 lvl1 alts from other accounts squaded on separate pc's.

Also, high level 5 aps dd's, (EDIT) venos and now mystics who can solo this instances paying 3 other players to open them now will be able to power level their own second uber-dd and do it in half the time it currently takes. Of course now they need to pay only to two openers.

And finally, wizzies and other casters who enjoy pvp but despise how sins that spawn, kill them and disappear will now also be able to power level their own sin to 105 to watch their backs from stealth.

woot yay! finally..... now i can set up a shop and still play w/o hoggin the other pc. bout time, this hasnt' made any sense for awhile.

Totally unfair as not everyone has access to a 2nd computer

I for one thank you for doing this Frankie ignore the people in here who just seems to like to moan there gonna do that no matter what you do.

Thanks for listning to the community on this one.

The rule change is meant to level the playing field so that the only thing separating the rich player and the poor player in terms of how many accounts they can have running and thus their earning potential are the same. Now it really doesn't matter if you have one computer or 10, you can have the exact same number of characters on at the same time. You can only sell the exact same number of items at one time. You have to have the right gear to be able to solo everything, you can't have a character with the same **** gear as someone else but earn a billion times more coin they do because you can have 6 computer and can be the entire squad all by yourself.


I personally think its a great rule change. Sure they can't and shouldn't completely level everything, but now everyone has the exact same opportunity as everyone else does. It all comes down to skill, and whether or not you have money to help you startup from hard work in real life. And thats the way it should be I think. For example, I know in lost city there is person who has 6 catshops surrounding the blacksmith at any given time selling anything everything you could want to buy. She had 6 times the amount of sale space as someone who only had one computer. Other newbie players probably couldn't compete with that. Now they both can sell the same exact amount at the same time and its all a matter of who can do it better to determine who gets more in game coin, as it should be.



Also for those of you who are worried about family members playing, every single member of your family can run two accounts at the same time if they wish. For those of you who shared account information, that is bannable and it doesn't matter if they aren't going to **** you or not. It gives that character an unfair advantage in that it is worked on by two people, and two people can easily do more work on the character than one. For those of you who made an account for people who weren't supposed to have accounts anyway because of legislation in this company's home country (the united states) that put the age requirement for this kind of signup info at 13, than that was also always against the rules. You were already in violation of the rules, so you don't have any reason to complain that you are now in violation of two rules. IJS. For those you saying that you've had the multiple accounts for years, keep them. You are grandfathered in, just remember that you can no longer been on more than two at the same time.


As for faction leaders, you can always have the directors and marshalls have a bank alt. You can always mail things to each other, and use mail as storage. You can always sell the items in the AH and take the small profit lost. You don't have to hoarde everything all by yourself. And those faction leaders with the bigger factions who have been powerhouses from the beginning? You still have all those characters, you can still have all those characters. You just can't be on all 5 faction banks at the same time.



TLDR: 2 accounts per person, not per household people. Also, I support new rules because they are meant to level the playing field. For people saying that they account share with someone in their family, that has also always been against the rules. As is making accounts with your info because you kid was always banned from playing for being too young. So it was always against the rules, even before this. Why get mad about it? Faction leaders? Start giving stuff to your officers to hold onto, you shouldn't be promoting officers you can't trust or who are volatile anyway. There is also the mail system, and the auction house.

Krisnda wrote: »

With this new rule, you don't need 2 computers, you can run 2 clients with 1 computer.

Excuse my ignorance, but how?

Pretty much, open pw normally, than go to where Sirsmokealot put there and boom, another pw window opens.

Why not limit it to 3 instead? No matter what, not everybody able to play 3 characters properly (given none is catshop). So why not allow people to play 3?