1v1 NPC Gear PVP Tournament ~ Brainstorming

http://pwcalc.com/165394d4f9e19f71

lvl 100 pure-vit wizard 3620 HP, 1655 pdef with Earth Barrier, 851 without, ~3300 matk

http://pwcalc.com/40767eaf3103f044

lvl 100 pure-mag wizard 2110 HP, 1534 pdef with Earth Barrier, 730 without, ~4600 matk

Note that those wizards are wearing all NPC 7x gear and I kept str at 54 and mag at 300 min since I assume most people would not restat purely for this tournament.

Those numbers are ridiculously low when you factor in base damage. 700-800 pdef = one bleed tick, under 4k HP = 1-shot by any genie skill. Assuming most caster classes aren't pure vit build, that's no more than 2-3 shots with stuns by any physical damage class.


http://pwcalc.com/d48ad50a53e43cb6

lvl 100 pure vit barb 7014 HP, 9118 HP buffed, 1911 mdef, ~2400 patk

http://pwcalc.com/7a69d12a2e620283

lvl 100 pure str barb 3631 HP, 4720 HP buffed, 1602 mdef, ~3500 patk

Any tank-build barb will be able to easily survive for very long with 7k HP unbuffed. Armageddon deals out 1250 + HP/2 damage. If buffed and with Tree of Protection, a perdition can easily deal out 4-5k damage, 1-shotting most.


This is just theorycrafting of course. Go try it out in-game and see how things are. What I really don't want to see is fast 15 second fights that ends with who attacked first.

~Desiree

Twink level 60 pvp tourneys > npc gear tourneys.

For a tournament like this, there are just too many variables to consider, when you allow people to bring their own equipments. Since all the equipment is easily obtainable, i'd suggest the organizer to create a pool of equipment, write it down on a list, then players participating can choose, or "draft" a certain # of equipment from the pool. Some special equipment might count as more than 1 choice. Then the players pick, and go into battle with only those equipments.

For example, say all venos receive "500" equipment points. If they want to pick a nix, then it might be worth "475 points". Then, the veno could enter battle with a nix, but otherwise be nearly naked with only 25 points for other pieces of equipment. Whereas a veno who chose a weaker pet, like a granite walker, could come in with good weapons and armors.

This would at least make it so that players skilled enough in building their chars based on equipment stats can get an advantage.

What's the main point of this? To determine who is the most skilled of each class?

You forgot one very important detail.

THIS GAME TAKES NO SKILL.

For the people who say this game takes no skill, you just don't get it. Have you ever played an RPG? Does rolling dice in D&D take any skill at all? No. The skill in an RPG is picking your class, building it up with the right weapons and armors, then using the appropriate skills for the situation. None of it is really complicated. The skill is in the "strategy" or farming, or exploring, (or charging your credit card ).

If you want a game with real skill, play an FPS and stop trolling these boards thinking you're superior by yelling out "THIS GAME TAKES NO SKILL". LOL you don't think everyone already knows that?

It's almost like driving up to a party and telling everyone "ITS ONLY THE ALCOHOL THAT MAKES IT FUN". OK. We know. Now GTFO.

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

It's almost like driving up to a party and telling everyone "ITS ONLY THE ALCOHOL THAT MAKES IT FUN". OK. We know. Now GTFO.

Those types of parties suck.

Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »

You clearly haven't played Guild Wars. WoW isn't a great example, but it takes more skill than this game. Allods is more skill based. @ ion is more skill based.

Yes there is a gear component where if you have OP gear, it makes it easier. But from level 1-101, you can play the entire game by holding down 1 button - or conversely making a macro that repeats that one skill over and over (unless if you're a mage then you have to alternate two skills, woah slow down!)

***, Diablo 2 is more skill based, at least you have to kite as a mage.

If I want a no-skill RPG, I play a console RPG. Not a PvP MMO.

I have played Guild wars, really didn't take that much more skill. You only pressed 8 buttons. Strategy was 99% of that game, understanding each skill and knowing which one was overpowered.

The only "skill" component of that game, i would consider, was things like bunny hopping on the warrior to get more melee strikes than intended on a warrior, or creating and switching between multiple weapon sets, either to resist damage better or to cancel skills like on a hammer sin.

I can press one button for Guild wars too. Did you know I actually went to 20 wins in random arenas on my monk just by using 2 skills? Patient spirit and contemplation of purity. Glad they nerfed patient spirit. I actually went to 10 wins just by using healing breeze and kiting everything, which was just LOL @ the time.

Edit: Consider this scenario. It's simple but illustrates skill pretty effectively. Pretend you are in random arena, and end up 1 v 1 vs a shock axe war. You are playing an air spike Ele. Can the warrior really do anything to win vs the ele? No. He's perma-blinded, and even if the ele is **** and the warrior is the most skilled player in the game, there's nothing he can do against perma-blind besides using shock to cancel blind. At 3/4 cast, 10 sec duration and 5 sec cooldown, thats more luck than anything.

Curso - Harshlands wrote: »

just let me know where this is im sure there will be plenty of people including me who like to put up there kill count by 1 shotting lvl 70 npc gears

u must be really low minded thinking something like this will ever work on a pvp server

U must be really dumb to think there won't be people guarding and insta-pk'ing the idiots trying to ruin a fun event

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

U must be really dumb to think there won't be people guarding and insta-pk'ing the idiots trying to ruin a fun event

Lol gl with that like curso said i will be there also looking for some fun and i hope there will be people there guarding, its not that much fun really to keep 1 shotting people.

And its stupid whats to stop some1 quickly putting some of there gear on?

let me no a time and date and i'll be there

Curso - Harshlands wrote: »

just let me know where this is im sure there will be plenty of people including me who like to put up there kill count by 1 shotting lvl 70 npc gears

u must be really low minded thinking something like this will ever work on a pvp server

And I thought you will have the balls to put down your credit card and PvP a bit.

Silly me.