Flesh ream aggro rant
Furries - Dreamweaver
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I love playing my barb, i love to tank. And i also enjoy not taking from time to time and letting 5 aps people tank. But there are times when it would be a lot better for ME to tank than a squishy 5 aps sin.
so this bring me to my main point.
the demon/sage flesh ream really needs to have better aggro capabilities.
when i tank i SHOULD be able to alacrity (for cancel), devour ( for debuff), frighten, and as well as ream and be able to keep aggro.
and up until lately i have been able to do that. but once i started squading with people with tripple spark. i havent been able to do that. and its gotten to the point where even spamming demon ream on its cooldown and using cloud eurption to keep my chi up i still cant hold aggro vs pretty much any tripple sparked char with a rank 8 wep.
If i have demon/sage ream i SHOULD be able to keep aggro from any DD and still have time to use other skills.
Normally i would expect a repsonce such as "too bad this isn't a perfect world".
and to that i respond: "well according to the name, its supposed to be"
if there is confusion of why i mean by "keep aggro". i mean having the boss stay targeted on me 100% of the time for bosses that dont have random aggro.
yes in the majority of cases under 3 aps tripple sparked i can pull aggro back on me but the fact is i still lose it again before demon ream's 2.5 sec cooldown ends.
and at 5 Aps ream wont even make then look at me.
so yeah this pretty much means im not ganna be tanking much anymore. Which is fine becuase using other skills is more fun than spamming ream anyways. it just makes me sad the lvl 11 ream isn't really all it should be.
so this bring me to my main point.
the demon/sage flesh ream really needs to have better aggro capabilities.
when i tank i SHOULD be able to alacrity (for cancel), devour ( for debuff), frighten, and as well as ream and be able to keep aggro.
and up until lately i have been able to do that. but once i started squading with people with tripple spark. i havent been able to do that. and its gotten to the point where even spamming demon ream on its cooldown and using cloud eurption to keep my chi up i still cant hold aggro vs pretty much any tripple sparked char with a rank 8 wep.
If i have demon/sage ream i SHOULD be able to keep aggro from any DD and still have time to use other skills.
Normally i would expect a repsonce such as "too bad this isn't a perfect world".
and to that i respond: "well according to the name, its supposed to be"
if there is confusion of why i mean by "keep aggro". i mean having the boss stay targeted on me 100% of the time for bosses that dont have random aggro.
yes in the majority of cases under 3 aps tripple sparked i can pull aggro back on me but the fact is i still lose it again before demon ream's 2.5 sec cooldown ends.
and at 5 Aps ream wont even make then look at me.
so yeah this pretty much means im not ganna be tanking much anymore. Which is fine becuase using other skills is more fun than spamming ream anyways. it just makes me sad the lvl 11 ream isn't really all it should be.
Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
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Agreed. The Devs should have tweaked the barbs' skills to generate more hatred once they are upgraded to level 11. Especially with, but no limited to, +12 weapons, gemmed weapons, rank weapons, warsoul, nirvana reforged (and even regular), even lunar...
I kind of feel bad for the barbs that actually want to do what they were meant to do: tank. b:sad[In a distorted place and time][The knife that stabbed me in the back grants me wings]
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Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »I love playing my barb, i love to tank. And i also enjoy not taking from time to time and letting 5 aps people tank. But there are times when it would be a lot better for ME to tank than a squishy 5 aps sin.
so this bring me to my main point.
the demon/sage flesh ream really needs to have better aggro capabilities.
when i tank i SHOULD be able to alacrity (for cancel), devour ( for debuff), frighten, and as well as ream and be able to keep aggro.
and up until lately i have been able to do that. but once i started squading with people with tripple spark. i havent been able to do that. and its gotten to the point where even spamming demon ream on its cooldown and using cloud eurption to keep my chi up i still cant hold aggro vs pretty much any tripple sparked char with a rank 8 wep.
If i have demon/sage ream i SHOULD be able to keep aggro from any DD and still have time to use other skills.
Normally i would expect a repsonce such as "too bad this isn't a perfect world".
and to that i respond: "well according to the name, its supposed to be"
if there is confusion of why i mean by "keep aggro". i mean having the boss stay targeted on me 100% of the time for bosses that dont have random aggro.
yes in the majority of cases under 3 aps tripple sparked i can pull aggro back on me but the fact is i still lose it again before demon ream's 2.5 sec cooldown ends.
and at 5 Aps ream wont even make then look at me.
so yeah this pretty much means im not ganna be tanking much anymore. Which is fine becuase using other skills is more fun than spamming ream anyways. it just makes me sad the lvl 11 ream isn't really all it should be.
Nonsense a level 10 skill that maxes at level 54 should obviously be able to hold aggro over 250k/sec sins b:cuteCurrently: pwcalc.com/b4c92dacf1da8c210 -
Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »Nonsense a level 10 skill that maxes at level 54 should obviously be able to hold aggro over 250k/sec sins b:cute
im not talking about lvl 10 ream im talking about lvl 11 sage/demon
i dont expect lvl 10 to do hold aggro from tripple spark, but lvl 11 should or else there really isnt a point to getting it.Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.0 -
Barbs are complete fail, as per how the Devs implemented them. You can spam the hell out of FR and spam the hell out of cloud eruption, but... TBH... I was tanking my BH59's almost every time on my Archer. I could let a Barb tank it to 3/4 then start, and by halfway, I'd have the boss' full attention for the rest of the fight. I have refined armor and if the cleric wasn't a jackass, i could handle it just fine.
An archer wearing legendary and TT armor, using a Legendary interval slingshot, with interval wrists, and refines on everything is going to gank aggro right off a barb wearing vendor trash from the tailor with an unrefined TT60 weapon with no shards in it. Especially if he isn't using skills at all.
only thing that ever took aggro off my archer was a Seeker, and I still took it back on Drake... That water gem in my Slingshot pisses drake off pretty bad. :P101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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Yea FR really needs to be upgraded. And now you have APS barbs running around lmao[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Barbs are complete fail, as per how the Devs implemented them. You can spam the hell out of FR and spam the hell out of cloud eruption, but... TBH... I was tanking my BH59's almost every time on my Archer. I could let a Barb tank it to 3/4 then start, and by halfway, I'd have the boss' full attention for the rest of the fight. I have refined armor and if the cleric wasn't a jackass, i could handle it just fine.
An archer wearing legendary and TT armor, using a Legendary interval slingshot, with interval wrists, and refines on everything is going to gank aggro right off a barb wearing vendor trash from the tailor with an unrefined TT60 weapon with no shards in it. Especially if he isn't using skills at all.
only thing that ever took aggro off my archer was a Seeker, and I still took it back on Drake... That water gem in my Slingshot pisses drake off pretty bad. :P
From what i remember i was able to keep aggro with ream and still have time for devour and chi gaining skills (frighten surf impact and alacrity) for pretty much all my bh 69 and the majority of my bh 79. it wasn't still i got into squad with tripple spark that i ever any amount of trouble holding aggro. and there was never a case with a non triple sparked char was able to keep aggro from me when i decided to spam it on it's cooldown.
from what i can recall, flesh ream works wonders holding aggro until your face with triple spark. i just want demon/sage ream to be able to offset that. im not expecting to be able to hold aggro from 5 aps without it turning on them when i use other skills, but i would like to at least be able to spam ream on cooldown and not lose aggro.
still it has been a while and i my have some memory issues in my old age.
seriously though im 22. i think my memory is good.Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.0 -
Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »From what i remember i was able to keep aggro with ream and still have time for devour and chi gaining skills (frighten surf impact and alacrity) for pretty much all my bh 69 and the majority of my bh 79. it wasn't still i got into squad with tripple spark that i ever any amount of trouble holding aggro. and there was never a case with a non triple sparked char was able to keep aggro from me when i decided to spam it on it's cooldown.
from what i can recall, flesh ream works wonders holding aggro until your face with triple spark. i just want demon/sage ream to be able to offset that. im not expecting to be able to hold aggro from 5 aps without it turning on them when i use other skills, but i would like to at least be able to spam ream on cooldown and not lose aggro.
still it has been a while and i my have some memory issues in my old age.
seriously though im 22. i think my memory is good.
All I'd do was auto attack, and after a few seconds, boss would be on me. If barb was using skills, there would be a ping-pong, until one of us gave up (me by canceling auto attack, or barb by just letting auto attack happen), or the boss would go back and forth until it died.
If a Psy or some-such pulled aggro off my archer with a heavy attack or something, I'd double spark and use Wind Shield or a similar skill to boost my APS temporarily and grab it back.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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Every barb thats not APs feels the same pain dude. If demon flesh ream can't hold aggro whats the point in getting it? It's useless for PvP. I had it too, and the moment a BM/sin would triple spark its all worthless. I may as well be biting with their grandama's dentures. I've quit barb altogether because I see no point in playing a class thats only good for buffing and cata pulling at end game. Were just a furry less powerful BM now.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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It's sucks that it's that way
Tank should be able to with-hold aggro if he's spamming his aggro skill.
Though, on the same side, if you're not a tank and you can't tank, you need to nerf yourself. I remember in many BHs and FFs having to pull back and wait for barb to grab a firm hold. If you don't know how to nerf your abilities aps wise, then don't **** when you die about how the barb can't hold aggro. People seem to love blaming barbs and clerics for their deaths.
But back to topic, sucks that the barbs weren't given enough power by the devs to hold over aps.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »All I'd do was auto attack, and after a few seconds, boss would be on me. If barb was using skills, there would be a ping-pong, until one of us gave up (me by canceling auto attack, or barb by just letting auto attack happen), or the boss would go back and forth until it died.
If a Psy or some-such pulled aggro off my archer with a heavy attack or something, I'd double spark and use Wind Shield or a similar skill to boost my APS temporarily and grab it back.
my 75 archer (pure dex with dex adding gears - non TT or legendary) with rank 4 chest and not interval wrists will pull aggro off of level 78 tiger barb and has taken aggro off of 90+ barbs that try to tank over me while standing up and using no aggro skills. I've taken aggro off of a 74 bm that said he could do more damage on his fists than i could on wind and the clouds. I waited 3/4 of the fight.. and took aggro from him (he was wearing a jones blessing - i wasnt).
flip side though: pre 9x as a barb, I didn't have the kind of issues with aggro holding as I seem to see out of a lot of barbs I go with on bh. maybe occassionally an archer would take aggro but I would have it right back. anywho.. ream is pretty much obsolete at end game when everyone just wants it done as fast as possible. Barb can still tank end game with ream so long as his gear is decent (read as refined up to level weapon) but that relies upon the squad letting him tank by controlling their DPS (read as not permasparking on HF / EP / TM / AMP). If the squad needs me to be the tank and is willing to do their part to let me tank, I'm certainly willing to do it. OTOH, if they just want to permaspark - they shouldn't expect me to "take aggro, im ticking charm".[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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honestly i think devs should rework the agro charts a bit and make either ream a def agro grabber and holder for like 4-5 seconds or make it so when u use it not only do u gain agro but it also jacks ur threat lvl up. honestly i wish they would cause this will permit barbs to actually do wat they designed to do and allow the DD's to do wat they do best...DD the mess out of ****. i believe this would actually revive the barb population and spark intrest in them again.If I sound like I hate you, please don't take it personally...chances are I actually do.0
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ehh.. i was gonna say something here. but decided not to lol.
about the only thing barbs are really wanted for anymore are delta / TW catapullers. I know theres a good deal of barbs still playing the game, but possibly the reason why its hard to find one anymore for those times that you need one - is that people keep turning them down for farming runs that they need mats from. basically.. people bite the hand that feeds them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Barbs are complete fail, as per how the Devs implemented them. You can spam the hell out of FR and spam the hell out of cloud eruption, but... TBH... I was tanking my BH59's almost every time on my Archer. I could let a Barb tank it to 3/4 then start, and by halfway, I'd have the boss' full attention for the rest of the fight. I have refined armor and if the cleric wasn't a jackass, i could handle it just fine.
An archer wearing legendary and TT armor, using a Legendary interval slingshot, with interval wrists, and refines on everything is going to gank aggro right off a barb wearing vendor trash from the tailor with an unrefined TT60 weapon with no shards in it. Especially if he isn't using skills at all.
only thing that ever took aggro off my archer was a Seeker, and I still took it back on Drake... That water gem in my Slingshot pisses drake off pretty bad. :P
You just had fail barbs. There are a ton of them out there. My level 6x barb tanked the entirety of BH59 multiple multiple times with DDs up to 15 levels higher than me in squad. (Non fail DDs too, I might add.)
You actually proved my point that you just had fail barbs. If the barb is wearing "vendor trash" and isn't using any skills, it obviously fails, does it not?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Demon FR vs. Sage FR
Demon: Reduces cooldown
Sage: Reduces chi cost
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I totally agree that FR should increase threat level at least enough to maintain aggro in squads of a similar level using sage/demon skill/spark. WTF did we upgrade to sage/demon for if it isn't to maintain our abilities through the higher levels?
Now- 5aps and r8/9 deserve to die for being overly obsessive (exception being those awesome people that actually farmed the coin in game to keep up with the changing times), so if they can still pull aggro and die that's more than fine by me. However a well geared 100 barb should be able to protect a well geared 100 sin/archer/seeker.
Otherwise the class is obsolete, all our work was for nothing, and our endgame reward is "YOU LOSE" because we obviously chose the wrong class to play. All our hard work keeping squads alive and aiding others should be ****** rewarded, not spat on in end game.0 -
Eh you can be pretty sure if you have a Barb with white NPC gear at that level that, most likely his Flesh Ream is like, uh, lv1? XD
In lower levels Barbs can hold aggro if they level their skills and wear decent gear. I static with a same level Barb, no she has no issues and yes we had some funny mad people with already +5 weapons and -int gear in BH squads.
Its funny how totaly pimp geared people "wonder" that they grab aggro over the probably worst equipped Barb out there tho....b:surrender
Also usually people who regulary run BHs at 59 arent exactly good equiped if they havent a much higher level main. BH isnt exactly great for the coin purse. Skills start to cost alot of coin and many people just dont upgrade them then.
Hell i met so many Players at that range who had funny ideas like "oh noes i have no coin to level my skills since lv40, now im 70+. Oh i have a great idea ill throw all my sp into a Genie and sell it for unbelivable2 million!"
No 2 million isnt much at 70+. -.-
Anyways thats kinda off topic cos the OP is complaining about 90+ range when you meet crazy 5 APS +10 weapon wearing crazy dudes. Ye i saw Barbs cant do much then since in some cases the chi is also needed for Invoke. Maybe it would just help to add more revenge/aggro/whatever to all the Tigerform skills in Sage/Demon version. Then again this is PWI i think the class changes/fixes i ever saw in here in over 2 years i can count with one Hand.b:laugh0 -
If sins/bms etc wanna be aps then let them tank. FR is not broken.0
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i agree barbs seriously need some aggro adjustments to thier skills. sadly, though, nothing will change. Im not 5aps, but as a mystic, my storm mistress has stole aggro tons of times from barbs ... its actually kinda sad...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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you know we barbs have go the wrong end of the stick..cant use the new hats,cant keep aggro with a 85+ any thing!,cant keep aggro with a 5.0 what ever,and when there the idiot and die its my fult.hey stupid heres a hint DONT TAKE AGGRO! and you whont die.dont blame the barb or the healer cuz you dont have the cents god gave a pissant.its your own damn fult.then i think waite..lvl 11 FR has to give me a better hold on the mob ok let me spend the 10 million on that and i got @#$%ed yet again.whant to know why you can find barbs any more cuz we are pissed thats why.i rember in my 30s through my 80s the HOLE squad would get pissed at the archers and the wizards when thay took aggro.so much so that thay had to get lower lvl wepons JUST SO thay wouldent take aggro.but ahhhh the good old days..i really dont know why im still playing a barb i dont.guess im just wating for us to get a powerup of some kind at last.but the gms well still just keep makeing charrs that will take over the job that a barb used to do TANK!thats my 2 cents worth,b:angry
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AriesBreath - Raging Tide wrote: »You just had fail barbs. There are a ton of them out there. My level 6x barb tanked the entirety of BH59 multiple multiple times with DDs up to 15 levels higher than me in squad. (Non fail DDs too, I might add.)
You actually proved my point that you just had fail barbs. If the barb is wearing "vendor trash" and isn't using any skills, it obviously fails, does it not?
Vendor Trash OR isn't using skill please. ;P
Just becuase their using vendor gear doesnt mean they are fail.
Barb was my first char my weapon was a quest item with a few none shop items
I did fine even with sins in squad on mobs they are a god send very nice soloing.
Get to boss if your gear isnt great tell them either hold back or wait to attack.
Helps if you talking to the squad and they arnt 12 with no idea whats going on.
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^eh.. I look at it this way..
I'm level 101 now. I've pretty much "beat the game" so to speak PvE wise. I'm celestial demon now - delta is done. I've killed Illusion Lord: Armageddon in 3-3, so I've beat that part of the game. FC I can solo if i really wanted.. Done all three paths we have of lunar glade MP mode, as well as the trophy mode. Full warsong? done it. Nirvana? only about 100+ times.. What else is there to accomplish? TW and PvP is basically all there is left at 100, aside from working on better gear. And lets be honest, barbs dont need ream to hold hate in TW.. ream is useless in PvP for the most part except as a sure fire killing blow when all thats needed is one hit on your target.
the way I see the barb class now is basically:
We tank the entire game up to around 90 for our damage dealers and clerics, and unless we're good merchants or cash shoppers - stay pretty much broke, meanwhile the DD's make a lot of money off the mats they get at practically 0 cost by comparison and become super built. 90+ they begin to take over the role of tanking by default due to their damage output, and its really not a big deal for them to do so when a modestly refined/sharded DD can tank on damage based hate and survive. Now the barb basically becomes a buffer/debuffer/fall back guy who keeps the boss from resetting if something bad happens. Honestly, after almost 2 years of "ream ream ream" as the main tank for my faction and rarely if ever playing an alt toon - I welcome the ability to relax / have quicker runs. Less repair for me for one, and in turn allows me to start stacking my coins up like the DD's that I used to tank for.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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If the guys who demon sparks and takes aggro can handle it, whats the big deal? Sit back and let him tank and get the huge repair bill for a change. A tank is a tank.
After BH69 barbs arent required until FC, and even then they eventually become obsolete at that also.
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I've run into the same problems recently. Spamming Demon FR at every cooldown in bh 79 and some damn lvl 80+ psychic steals aggro. Oh, the shame. So I changed to APS build and haven't had any issues since. Well, except for better geared / higher level APS characters, but then again, more than enough reason for them to be the tank instead.
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I actually agree but it won't happen. PWE won't break FR to fix it. The whole point of aggro mechanics would be pointless... well, more pointless than how aggro was broken by bringing so much interval gear into the game. Learn to love being a devour b***h and buff monkey. lolI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »I actually agree but it won't happen. PWE won't break FR to fix it. The whole point of aggro mechanics would be pointless... well, more pointless than how aggro was broken by bringing so much interval gear into the game. Learn to love being a devour b***h and buff monkey. lol
the thing that annoys me is not being able to do a boss becuase the 5 aps people CAN'T tank it when i could have, and we cant do the boss becuase I'm unable to hold aggro.
THAT'S what i don't like.Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.0 -
I totally forgot that I had demon flesh ream until I read this thread.
I have never used it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The number of bms/sins/archers that can survive tanking warsong/3-3/nirvana/etc is much smaller than the number that will constantly steal aggro from me if I try.
If your gear is epic enough to tank, wonderful, please take me along on your runs, lol.
If you are a sin or archer in an unrefined rank 4 chest with a +10 weapon and 5k buffed HP, don't cry about me not holding aggro.
I like having the HP and defense to pull in delta and lunar comfortably, so don't tell me to restat to claw build. Claw barbs are great if built right, but I don't have the coin or motivation to accomplish that. It would be nice if flesh ream (at least lvl 11) generated enough hate to hold aggro from un-sparked aps DDs, so they could choose to take aggro or not. Since refining aids and gems are cash shop items this will never happen, no reason to make it easier to spend less.All the world's a game,
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Simple solution....make bosses hit harder...
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ItsAWolf - Archosaur wrote: »I've run into the same problems recently. Spamming Demon FR at every cooldown in bh 79 and some damn lvl 80+ psychic steals aggro. Oh, the shame.
b:scorn An 8x Psychic steals aggro in 79? You should be ashamed. But even I have the brain capacity to know never to take aggro from a tank....Your server must have a lot of dumb magic fish....or just dumb fish in general.
Barbarians in general, as a class, need to be fixed. There's no reason why EVERY SINGLE physical damage charatcer absolutely HAS to restat to APS because the developers are too damn lazy to fix things. People should be free to build the build they choose, and still have the same god damn advantage as an APS junkie, money or no money involved.
"normal" barbs pay money to this game too, and they were paying money LONG before everybody got shot up on APS. They deserve to be on equal level, or at least be able to hold their own against a 3.33 APS spamming, face rolling moron who paid 500 bucks just to be able to twitch things to death, get bored, and roll a poorly-built, semi-ret@rded seeker.They made fun of me because I wasn't a R8 Psychic...and then came third cast. It's not funny anymore.
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Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »^eh.. I look at it this way..
I'm level 101 now. I've pretty much "beat the game" so to speak PvE wise. I'm celestial demon now - delta is done. I've killed Illusion Lord: Armageddon in 3-3, so I've beat that part of the game. FC I can solo if i really wanted.. Done all three paths we have of lunar glade MP mode, as well as the trophy mode. Full warsong? done it. Nirvana? only about 100+ times.. What else is there to accomplish? TW and PvP is basically all there is left at 100, aside from working on better gear. And lets be honest, barbs dont need ream to hold hate in TW.. ream is useless in PvP for the most part except as a sure fire killing blow when all thats needed is one hit on your target.
the way I see the barb class now is basically:
We tank the entire game up to around 90 for our damage dealers and clerics, and unless we're good merchants or cash shoppers - stay pretty much broke, meanwhile the DD's make a lot of money off the mats they get at practically 0 cost by comparison and become super built. 90+ they begin to take over the role of tanking by default due to their damage output, and its really not a big deal for them to do so when a modestly refined/sharded DD can tank on damage based hate and survive. Now the barb basically becomes a buffer/debuffer/fall back guy who keeps the boss from resetting if something bad happens. Honestly, after almost 2 years of "ream ream ream" as the main tank for my faction and rarely if ever playing an alt toon - I welcome the ability to relax / have quicker runs. Less repair for me for one, and in turn allows me to start stacking my coins up like the DD's that I used to tank for.
This.
I rarely do any actual tanking anymore. Most of the time I just aoe/debuff. Doesn't really bother me much really...though if barbs were to get fully sidelined like wizards, then I'd certainly quit.Some people risk to employ me
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Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »This.
I rarely do any actual tanking anymore. Most of the time I just aoe/debuff. Doesn't really bother me much really...though if barbs were to get fully sidelined like wizards, then I'd certainly quit.
Just wait till the 79/89/100 skills for the Earthguard come out. Clerics and BMs may disappear, too... Combined with how few Venos make it to end-game, that'd make the game all Earthguard and Tideborn, aside from archers...[sigpic][/sigpic]
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