2 questions!

Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear
Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Barbarian
First: The clawed barb! I'm not sure to go claws or no. For now i was thinking to go claws for like narvinian and stuff and then go back to barb weapons. Because i like to PK and i dont think claws are for PK, there for PvE? And if i was only using barb weapons better damage. So the question is should i go claws for ever or not?

Second: This is kind of related to the first question... Should i go Demon or sage(i will like to go to pk)? The thing is if i go claws ill need to go demon. But if i'm not claws i don't know. If i'm sage then extra damage and every thing and not about aps but about damage (good for kill mage classes?) And how much i thinked about sage is better but i don't know why...

Please answer them and tell me why and please try to convince me which should i chose....
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  • Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear
    Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    please answer these 2 questions
  • Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear
    Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    please
  • Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear
    Shadovvnn - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    any one?
  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    First: The clawed barb! I'm not sure to go claws or no. For now i was thinking to go claws for like narvinian and stuff and then go back to barb weapons. Because i like to PK and i dont think claws are for PK, there for PvE? And if i was only using barb weapons better damage. So the question is should i go claws for ever or not?

    I'm an old fashioned barb...never went claws. I like my axes. Claws/fists are good for PK or PVE depending upon your APS. The higher your APS the better the claws are for you in PVE or in 1v1 PK.

    The downside of claws is that you'll have to take other stat points and put them into dex...which means that unless you want to spend a great deal of coin, you'll have to spend a great deal of dollars/zhen to keep your high HPs.

    Second: This is kind of related to the first question... Should i go Demon or sage(i will like to go to pk)? The thing is if i go claws ill need to go demon. But if i'm not claws i don't know. If i'm sage then extra damage and every thing and not about aps but about damage (good for kill mage classes?) And how much i thinked about sage is better but i don't know why...

    Please answer them and tell me why and please try to convince me which should i chose....

    I'm sage barb and, like I mentioned earlier, an old fashioned tank barb. I have slightly higher dex and slightly higher strength than my equipment requisites but not by much. My HPs fully buffed is only 16K. Do I hit hard? Not really. Can I take a hit? Hell's yeah.

    For endgame though, most squads don't really need a barb. They're nice to have, and loads of fun to play. So ask yourself what you want to accomplish in this game? Do you want to be the guy standing in front of the baddies in TT day after day after day? Or do you want to be the guy that everyone wants in their squad for every instance, every nirvana run, every bh? Or are you just out for a bit of PK and TW every now and then?
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  • Blood_Panda - Raging Tide
    Blood_Panda - Raging Tide Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    it comes down to play style,

    Do you wish for damage or do you wish just to be safe.

    People go demon for the increase attack speed

    go sage for the extra defence.

    With R9 Axe/gear available now, the gap between damage is closing in between the 2 ways.

    To go claw or not depend solely on how much time/money you are willing to go for your character.

    For those with much on their hand will find life easier going claw.
    After all no one can really argue about you cant tank if you have +12 refine and 4 sock all Vit Stones even if you go Claw build.

    Claw build need 200 dex to reach, with normal barb @ 60 dex, you need to shift 140 vit over to dex to compensate.
    That being said, its 14 Vit stone to recover back the HP. if Vit stone goes for around 20 mil per piece you will need about 280mil to get your lost HP back.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The reason people avoided your questions is they are both very in depth and controversial, as well as asked very regularly by people in the first few pages of barb forums.

    Sticked Clawbarian guide
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=983472

    One of maaaannny Save vs. Demon threads
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=992562

    I personally have gone claw barb. It's not something I would recommend until lvl 99 or 100. The reasons I say wait till then is most your aps gear is lvl 99 or 100 so its not worth it until then. Also, at that point you should have some refines and decent shards in your weapon. Try to play with http://pwcalc.com/dd703b33960c1fdc (most basic gear and stats already entered). Remember not to include tigerform buff when making your endgame hp calcs. Aim for at least 12-15k hp when you switch, so you can still tank what you want.

    I actually find claws + bloodpaint to give me better survivability than 30k hp, which helps when tanking bosses, and when you have 5.0 and refined claws you won't have to complain about aps players stealing aggro at 2.22 like alot of "classic" barbs. That being said, Delta pulls are rougher and some bosses that do magic attacks for 12k+ dmg are still impossible for claw barbs.


    Sage vs. Demon
    If you go claw you may as well go demon for the speed boost, otherwise you'll need LA pieces to be 4.0, or be content with 3.33 aps. With claws Beastial Onslaught and the 15 second Devour both combine awesomely. Sage offers more hp in tiger form but you have to stand up to DD since their is reduced dmg output. After about 16k hp everything else is just "buffer" and comfort levels. I see 20k barbs fail at FCC pulls I've done since I've had 10k hp for two reasons, demon speed boost is great for getting ahead of mob damage on pulls, and when you have that much hp you rely less on skill. If you can do the same job with more skill and recieve other benefits than go for that.
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