Mystic in genneral
EarthRiser - Harshlands
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This is my final mystic question.
Are mystics ment for healing in BH TT FC and Nirvina?
Or are they damage dealers?
Are mystics ment for healing in BH TT FC and Nirvina?
Or are they damage dealers?
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It varies on the group setup and difficulty of the instance you're doing. In a BH you can be a DD if there's a cleric normally unless it's a more difficult one and you need to backup heal, also if there isn't a cleric then you have to be the healer, no real choice there unless you want everyone to die, same goes for TT, FCC, and whatever else you may be doing.
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Misutishizum - Sanctuary wrote: »It varies on the group setup and difficulty of the instance you're doing. In a BH you can be a DD if there's a cleric normally unless it's a more difficult one and you need to backup heal, also if there isn't a cleric then you have to be the healer, no real choice there unless you want everyone to die, same goes for TT, FCC, and whatever else you may be doing.
Hope I helped.
This guy is right. Technically were DD, yet we can easily be heals as well.
My advice is do both, the thing that makes mystics so amazing in groups is there versatility. If the healer goes down without res buff (Which he shouldn't ) you can plant down Vital and Healing herb and spam the rest of your heals to keep everyone alive.
Say the tank and cleric know what there doing and things are going smooth, Awesome! Then use Befuddling creeper and cragglord on every cooldown and dish out some decent DD.
Say the cleric or tank may be slightly under geared or noobish? No problem! Just keep falling petals on the barb or spot heal the group for the cleric while he focuses on the tank.
I already get several invites from people a day asking if I can come along for a FC or BH. Not because I have amazing DD or can main heal better, but merely because things can go so much smoother with a mystic in the squad.
Be that mystic friend.YuiYuiYuiYuiYuiYuiYuiYuiYuiYui0 -
the above posters are right. mystics are DD or healer depending on the situation. me personally, i offten swich between roles in the middle of bh, cos **** hits the fan on a regular basses. thanks to salvation and falling petals, you can reduce the strain on tanks and cerlics and they will love you for it. in fact becasue of this two skills, it's possible to use lower level tank and healer (theoretically) for instances, gantered you need to keep a sharp eye on things.0
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Vital + Healing Herbs , Salvation buffs , Falling Petals , Rez buff + break in the clouds and AoE Heal = Yes , u can't be a cleric but u can sure heal if the squads dont find one with a bit of practise , and potions b:chuckle. a lot of mystics did a great job in Bh 51 & 59 when the cleric D/C or died , u can too b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Quickly explaining what I Said below: No, Mystics are Supporting Damage Dealers. They cant be good healers as clerics are. But if there is no clerics and your squad ask you to be the healer, DONT USE THE FREAKING Devil Chihyu, summon Salvation instead. And I know you guys going to get your sage/demon skills I was just trolling around :P
But still my advise: If you want to be a HEALER, go CLERIC.
Otherwise, Mystics are very good damage dealers and very good supporters just like venomancers. (but veno's supporting is most offensive and mystics most defensive).
And learn to spare your MPs, because I have mystic and I know how expensive their skills are.
If you are mystic, then youre Damage Dealer. Let Healing job to the Cleric.
And always say your party youre UNABLE to heal well as a Cleric.
Wanna Know Why? Ok, here we go.
WellSpring Surge is the cleric's weakest heal, and it compares to your break in the clouds (which is your only unique target heal) WellSpring Surge heals almost same and spends much less mp. When Healing the tanker, Clerics use IronHeart Blessing, which heals Mfing ammounts of HP and is stacking.
Some people compares Ironheart with the falling petals. Let me explain how falling petals work and youll see that it sucks compared to the ironheart:
When you Cast Falling Petals, it creates a kind of a buff on your target, this buff has a 714 + 30% matk lifespan. when the buffed target takes 700 damage, 9s later the buff heals it the 700, and remove from the buff lifespan (the buff lifespan falls to 14 + 30% matk). Thats why it never lasts the one minute.
Comforting mist loses to the chromatic healing beam in Healing power and mp spending. (same mp spending, but chromatic healing heals 350 + 2% more (at endgame)
Mystics are unable to purify.
Mystics dont have anything comparable to the Stream of rejuvenation.
Mystics dont have anything comparable to the Regeneration aura (aka blue bubble)
Mystics dont have the 4 most powerful buffs of the game which leasts for 1h.
A good player healing with a mystic, spends a good amount of potions and is able to heal very well. But a good player healing with a cleric heals much better and spending almost no potions.
Mystics heal well using spark burst... Did you ever try Ironheart blessing + sparkburst... + stacking?
Mystics can consume mistress of the storm to heal more and they have rapid growth. Well clerics heal the same ammount spending half mp. Demon clerics may use demon spirit gift to increase their matk and heal like crazy ditches. (and demon IH heals mp too).
although, we clerics NEED your res buff. You Mystics were made to buff us, so nobody loses much exps by being in a bad squad.
wanna be a healer, go cleric u.u
Sorry for being troll, but thats REAL I play Barbarian and I see the difference
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Why everybody have to compare mystics with clerics or venos? Mystics are a unique class, it will be not point to add another class as same as an existent one. Nobody will play clerics anymore if was the case. Mystic are not made to be clerics but can be a good help healing, we are the most flexible class in the game, we can heal good, we can DD good, we can debuff good, but not as good as the other classes that have just one focus. I played as cleric before and didnt like much, but I love to play as mystic for the versatility. I guess you guys have to get over this argument an enjoy the game.b:victoryb:cute0
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Why everybody have to compare mystics with clerics or venos? Mystics are a unique class, it will be not point to add another class as same as an existent one. Nobody will play clerics anymore if was the case. Mystic are not made to be clerics but can be a good help healing, we are the most flexible class in the game, we can heal good, we can DD good, we can debuff good, but not as good as the other classes that have just one focus. I played as cleric before and didnt like much, but I love to play as mystic for the versatility. I guess you guys have to get over this argument an enjoy the game.b:victoryb:cute
Thats what I was trying to say. And its already happening, there are not much clerics anymore. You dont see clerics below lv 50~60, because people are making mystics only. But still the question I said, again: The cleric is the healer, the Mystic is the one who helps the cleric to heal. Mystic is the clerics supporter, as well as a very good damage dealer too.
Answering to the thread again, its very difficult to be the SQUAD HEALER being mystic.0 -
AntiSacer - Dreamweaver wrote: »When you Cast Falling Petals, it creates a kind of a buff on your target, this buff has a 714 + 30% matk lifespan. when the buffed target takes 700 damage, 9s later the buff heals it the 700, and remove from the buff lifespan (the buff lifespan falls to 14 + 30% matk).
I think you're a little confused on how the skill works.
It activates when you take anything higher than about 30 damage or so (it's not when you take ANY damage, because it won't proc if you have Sally's buff on, and also often doesn't heal lowbies if you buff them because the damage they take is to low to start the heal), and it heals you a little bit once every 3 seconds for 9 seconds.
If a person is rebuffed with FP during the heal, the current heal stops and it awaits for the target to get hit again so it can start another HoT.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Thanks for a detailed explanation about that, i really didn't understand it well, but from what I tested it heals based on the damage dealt and the number in the skill description is like a lifespan to the buff or a Maximum amount of life healed. Something like.
Game developers didn't make it clear on mystics.
Thats why I like the Seekers, they are very different from the bms and sins, they manipulate Atk and Def levels on their favor. Bms still useful with their enraging AoE Stun and sins still the fast attackers with higher damage ever, And seekers still very useful in different ways.
But people is messing around with mystics, because mystic came not to replace any class, but to have an different form of high utility, just like the seeker.0 -
its both, really. depends on the situation. in FC i use vital herb on the AOE bosses to help with the clerics healing. ive gotten a lot of comments from clerics saying that they love the mystics heals help, and the ress buff etc ^^ one time a cleric went AFK at the 2nd boss and i healed through the whole thing. Although we cant BB, we can heal pretty darn good and it can really lift some stress off a clerics shoulders.
other than that im DDing, Lysing Befuddling, sparking, etc.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Vixter - Harshlands wrote: », Lysing Befuddling
sorry those word just grabed my attention so firmly lol b:laugh0 -
lmao o_o i dont see how though xDOutlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear wrote: »sorry those word just grabed my attention so firmly lol b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AntiSacer - Dreamweaver wrote: »Quickly explaining what I Said below: No, Mystics are Supporting Damage Dealers. They cant be good healers as clerics are. But if there is no clerics and your squad ask you to be the healer, DONT USE THE FREAKING Devil Chihyu, summon Salvation instead. And I know you guys going to get your sage/demon skills I was just trolling around :P
But still my advise: If you want to be a HEALER, go CLERIC.
Otherwise, Mystics are very good damage dealers and very good supporters just like venomancers. (but veno's supporting is most offensive and mystics most defensive).
And learn to spare your MPs, because I have mystic and I know how expensive their skills are.
If you are mystic, then youre Damage Dealer. Let Healing job to the Cleric.
And always say your party youre UNABLE to heal well as a Cleric.
Wanna Know Why? Ok, here we go.
WellSpring Surge is the cleric's weakest heal, and it compares to your break in the clouds (which is your only unique target heal) WellSpring Surge heals almost same and spends much less mp. When Healing the tanker, Clerics use IronHeart Blessing, which heals Mfing ammounts of HP and is stacking.
Some people compares Ironheart with the falling petals. Let me explain how falling petals work and youll see that it sucks compared to the ironheart:
When you Cast Falling Petals, it creates a kind of a buff on your target, this buff has a 714 + 30% matk lifespan. when the buffed target takes 700 damage, 9s later the buff heals it the 700, and remove from the buff lifespan (the buff lifespan falls to 14 + 30% matk). Thats why it never lasts the one minute.
Comforting mist loses to the chromatic healing beam in Healing power and mp spending. (same mp spending, but chromatic healing heals 350 + 2% more (at endgame)
Mystics are unable to purify.
Mystics dont have anything comparable to the Stream of rejuvenation.
Mystics dont have anything comparable to the Regeneration aura (aka blue bubble)
Mystics dont have the 4 most powerful buffs of the game which leasts for 1h.
A good player healing with a mystic, spends a good amount of potions and is able to heal very well. But a good player healing with a cleric heals much better and spending almost no potions.
Mystics heal well using spark burst... Did you ever try Ironheart blessing + sparkburst... + stacking?
Mystics can consume mistress of the storm to heal more and they have rapid growth. Well clerics heal the same ammount spending half mp. Demon clerics may use demon spirit gift to increase their matk and heal like crazy ditches. (and demon IH heals mp too).
although, we clerics NEED your res buff. You Mystics were made to buff us, so nobody loses much exps by being in a bad squad.
wanna be a healer, go cleric u.u
Sorry for being troll, but thats REAL I play Barbarian and I see the difference *trollface*
that may be the case but you forget that they get plants. if a barb's getting hammered dropping a vital herb + healing herb at the same time gives roughly a constant heal, while the mystic itself still can pull out a salvation, which is like giving plume shield onto others. Sure, it may not heal as well as a cleric, but damage reduction from salvation + herbs + the actual skills they get for healing more than makes up for it. The biggest problem is micromanaging in a large team, as more often than not many people are getting hammered, and the mystic can only heal one at a time properly. Thus the class is more suited to individual target healing, e.g. taking care of the rest of the party while the cleric spams the less complex heals to people.0 -
EarthRiser - Harshlands wrote: »This is my final mystic question.
Are mystics ment for healing in BH TT FC and Nirvina?
Or are they damage dealers?
In pwi wiki is... Damage almost equivalent to that of Psychic's and mystic DD/DPS in partys +Mystics in PvP are capable of killing their enemies within seconds
And mystics arent clerics or venos just saying b:victory0
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