Ideal Seeker Build

XXRed_DawnXx - Heavens Tear
XXRed_DawnXx - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Seeker
Yes, i know it has been asked probably a billion times by now but: What is the Seeker build that will pay off most? When should you cap Vit? Currently my seeker's build is 5str 3dex and 2vit per 2 levels. b:surrender
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    XXRed_DawnXx - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes, i know it has been asked probably a billion times by now but: What is the Seeker build that will pay off most? When should you cap Vit? Currently my seeker's build is 5str 3dex and 2vit per 2 levels. b:surrender

    cap at 100
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  • MethosX - Dreamweaver
    MethosX - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The build you use depends of what style you wanna play.If you wanna have better survivability use 5 str 3 dex 2 vit per 2 levels. If you want higher dmg and good hp ratio use 5 str 3 dex 2 vit per 2 levels until you reach 50 vit and then use 3 str 2 dex per level (this is my build). If you want high crit rate and high dmg but low survivability use 3 str 2 dex per level. The problem of low hp is that you need to shard every piece of equipment do you have (example i have 50 vit and 4.3k hp)
  • _Kagaho_ - Raging Tide
    _Kagaho_ - Raging Tide Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    the best build (for me) is one a little bit diferent.. is bassedn on high crit. ratio and a masive physical def, is each 3 LVL 8 on str, 5 on dex n 2 on vit... is for me the best seeker build, using the single spark u can resist hits too much stronger than the barb and bm's
  • Knightblayde - Raging Tide
    Knightblayde - Raging Tide Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Prior to playing a seeker, I've had experience leveling a bm (my main) and a barb, so I've been used to questing with HA classes. I don't like giving up my damage potential for survivability early game when I could substitute it with healing items.

    Like everyone else has said, it's really based on how you play and how much tolerance you have for your tasks. Personally, I don't need any more vit than base because I can deal with that later using refines and shards. I admit that it's harder to do your basic quests before level 75, but I remedy that using life powder apothecary. In the long run, you can gain a bit more damage by not sinking extra points into VIT. My build is 3 str/ 2 dex every level like the standard BM build, and I really like it. Even though I was a bit squishy, mobs were dying quick with my skill chains. My seeker is now level 77, and with a few crab meat and tons of herb yuanxiao, survival and questing are easier than ever.

    P.S.: I am now officially a vortex addict b:surrender
  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I use 3 STR/2 DEX every level, because I am drunk most of the time I'm playing and can't be bothered to remember the 7 STR/3 DEX split every two levels. I'll probably restat to that when I get higher level, though.

    But I wouldn't put any points into VIT, ever. I leveled an Assassin when they first came out, and if I could handle straight tanking melee mobs on a LA class as 4 DEX/1 STR before Bloodpaint became really useful, I'm sure as hell not going to bother wasting points on VIT for a heavy armor class (especially when there's a 100 Sin on a second account that can be used to bloodpaint it...)
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Minimum str/dex for swords/HA, rest into vit.
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  • Sverdet - Heavens Tear
    Sverdet - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've been doing 3 str 2 dex every lvl for a while now. It no longer surprises me when I see that I crit on a good number of hits. Now, I may change it to 3 str 2 vit for a little bit until I get about lvl 65-70, then I may add to dex again afterward. Either way, I'm not following any guide, I'm just doing my own thing. It seems to be working very well too.

    I was worried for a bit because my hp drains a little too fast at my lvl, but then I looked at my gear... lvl 30 r2, so my problem is my phys def >.< (fail) ..I need to update armor when I get back on.
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Minimum str/dex for swords/HA, rest into vit.

    Yeah be an even more gimpy seeker.
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    for leveling i went 5 str, 3 dex, 2 vit until i had 50 base vit. then 6 str 4 dex (every 2 levels ofc)

    final will be like this

    http://pwcalc.com/6056b3afccedae0e
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah be an even more gimpy seeker.

    you realize that most of a skills damage comes from the the skill itself right? the str multiplier is kinda weak, you are better off not being a 1shot
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Now that you mention it,...


    ..but then again it doesn't hurt to have more str than minimum. I'll test it out on my next "build change".
  • Neyda - Raging Tide
    Neyda - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah be an even more gimpy seeker.

    But basically its the +5 Str +3Dex +2 Vit every 2 Levels.

    And for me, its just works fine. I even stole the aggro from Barb,with Vortex, on
    a bh51 several times, this weekend.

    The Barb was bout the same Level and was nearly equally Equipped. Rank IV Equip
    TT60 Dual Axes. But he was using the Jones Blessing, whil I used the 2010 Anniversary
    Blessing.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah be an even more gimpy seeker.

    Agreed. and LOL at all these "high vitality" seekers running around who hit like little girls. b:laugh
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Epros - Raging Tide wrote: »
    you realize that most of a skills damage comes from the the skill itself right? the str multiplier is kinda weak, you are better off not being a 1shot

    You are a HEAVY ARMOR class. That plus your defense buffs make you far from being a one/shot and certainly no need to have near 7k in hit points while still in your 70s. The damage multiplier, while weaker than a BM's is still there. Max your dmg. Survivability will be less a worry as you level.
  • Eraldus - Sanctuary
    Eraldus - Sanctuary Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm going my own custom build, each 2 lvls I add 5 str and 5 dex, been like that since the first lvl and I'm going pretty well so far, lots of crits and awesome damage, even in pvp I'm owning every class so far and I got myself a + 15 vit tome and some vit gears to compensate my lack of vit, so far my hp is over 5k.
    Retired...

    Reasons? Packs, rank gear, picky greedy players, the list goes on b:bye
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Right now i am 5str and 3dex and 2 vit every level. I was thinking maybe at 70 or 80 i will change the vit. XD either cap at 60 or cap at 30, since i have shards on my 70 gear and 80 gear. Yeah i might need more power later on, since i am not a barb xD i might as well get some power.
    Here is my calculate should i change now or wait for my 70 gear which is refined and that is when hp might not be a problem anymore?

    http://pwcalc.com/80a86f2b9f0e0694

    I was thinking of having at some point 7str 3dex or 5str and 4dex and 1 vit later at end game or just capping vit at 50 and then going 3str and 2dex till end game. Not too sure. Need some advice for later on , not sure what direction i am going b:cute. I am xD can t afford to refine amour decently at the moment, especially at low levels.
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    my seeker's only level 36 so far, but i figure having capped my vit at 30 was the right idea since i don't seem to be dying much anymore. if that changes and/or i want to take up serious tanking, i'll consider adding more vit again, but until then i'm sticking with 3/2 for DDing.

    my main problem is i'm still missing more than i'd like to; it's frustrating to hold off on stalagstrike until parchedblade procs, only to immediately watch stalagstrike miss. i may have to do a few turns of 5/5 to try and fix that... or i may just continue as i am until 50 or so, see if anything changes.
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  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Agreed. and LOL at all these "high vitality" seekers running around who hit like little girls. b:laugh

    ive compared hits from my "high vitality seeker" and a "DD seeker" with 3 vit, the damage difference is negligible, however having more than twice the HP is quite nice. play your seeker how you want, but dont call a vitality build "gimpy"
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  • Tojop - Dreamweaver
    Tojop - Dreamweaver Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Minimum str/dex for swords/HA, rest into vit.

    I was actually thinking the same thing, but let me put something forth. I'm planning on having rank 8 on my seeker. Rank 8 armors have no stat requirements; the rank 8 sword has a stat req. 200 strength and 100 dex. This would allow me to put a full 155 points into vit.

    Obviously, my damage won't be as high as a no-vit/full-str build, and my accuracy will suffer from lower dex. But I'm looking at what I will actually be doing on my seeker....

    I don't need to do massive damage, as I have a 5.0 sin for that. In an instance like FC or rebirth, I think a seeker is going to pull aggro with vortex regardless of stat distribution. Any thoughts?

    Edit: It's not just Seeker rank 8 that has no stat requirements, it's all rank armors, just for the record. Also, I'm just looking for realistic criticisms, not just mindless flaming; please back up criticisms w/ facts.
  • KolaKnight - Sanctuary
    KolaKnight - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I am 5 str 3 dex 2 vit and its working for me, This is what my character looks like right now
    http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/Eliteknight2003/Stuff%20for%20only%20a%20few/2011-03-3008-50-19.jpg
    Sure i might not be hitting are hard as others, but i managed to duel a 85 barb and managed to live through 6 of his atks before he managed to take me down. so yeah i might be alittle less harder hitting but i can take a major hit and still keep coming back for more b:victory
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm going so far 3 str / 2 dex on my seeker and at end game will probably shoot for 200 dex with gear add or minimum dex to equip my end game sword of choice and wear accuracy rings to make up for the loss of accuracy by restatting the dex, which I'd put into STR for more damage. HP would come from shards/refines.

    PvE at lower levels there's really not a whole lot of need for VIT imo, espcially if you are wearing decent gear - potions are effective at keeping you alive while questing. Seekers also apparently only get 10 HP per vit point, which tells me that I don't think they are really meant to be a "tank" class per se (whereas barbs get 17 HP per vit, and BM gets 15. even venomancers get more HP per vit point) A pure arcane cleric (crappiest HP refines for gear) gets the same HP per vit point and can - at end game - get upwards of 10k HP with barb buff (without using a singe HP/VIT shard), so seekers can get even more on HA with equivalent refines.
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  • Armads - Lost City
    Armads - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm going so far 3 str / 2 dex on my seeker and at end game will probably shoot for 200 dex with gear add or minimum dex to equip my end game sword of choice and wear accuracy rings to make up for the loss of accuracy by restatting the dex, which I'd put into STR for more damage. HP would come from shards/refines.

    PvE at lower levels there's really not a whole lot of need for VIT imo, espcially if you are wearing decent gear - potions are effective at keeping you alive while questing. Seekers also apparently only get 10 HP per vit point, which tells me that I don't think they are really meant to be a "tank" class per se (whereas barbs get 17 HP per vit, and BM gets 15. even venomancers get more HP per vit point) A pure arcane cleric (crappiest HP refines for gear) gets the same HP per vit point and can - at end game - get upwards of 10k HP with barb buff (without using a singe HP/VIT shard), so seekers can get even more on HA with equivalent refines.


    I'm pretty sure that Seeker gets 15hp per vit point, same as Blademaster.(i'm 7str/3dex, so i can't say for sure, but from my other seeker friends its 15hp per vit point)
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    whoops, sorry about that - i just double checked and you are correct.
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  • Saiikuro - Heavens Tear
    Saiikuro - Heavens Tear Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Alright guys so am i capping my vit at 30 or 50? or should i restat it somewhere else? I really dont know since i usually dont play meele classes (lvl 65 Psy is my main) and its new to me but i really like this class so far. I think im going to shoot for being a tank. Ive seen seekers tank FB's and such and it looked really fun. So shooting towards a tank build, cap at 30 or 50 or restat to Str and Dex?
  • Dameon - Harshlands
    Dameon - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    im not sure my exact method but i have enough dex to use my weap, 2-3 str points a lv rest in vit...but then again im gonan sue him for my TW character so i want alot of hp to stand shots while AoEingb:surrender
    Someone may power level a new class to 100 in a single week, and you may level it to 100, in 100 days. After those 100 days, you both still have played the class for 100 days...ijsb:surrender
  • xxkissuxx
    xxkissuxx Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    is there a more simplified explaination of the seeker and mystic builds? b:surrender thanks if anyone can help me
  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    xxkissuxx wrote: »
    is there a more simplified explaination of the seeker and mystic builds? b:surrender thanks if anyone can help me

    what is more simple than "only enough strength and only enough dex to wear your gear, the put the rest in vitality"? it seems pretty straightforward to me, stop being so damn lazy
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  • QuakeX - Lost City
    QuakeX - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    seeker is a mage blessed with ha armor n def buffs. go max dmg, dnt even stat 1 in vit omg... b:shocked
  • Epros - Raging Tide
    Epros - Raging Tide Posts: 1,720 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    QuakeX - Lost City wrote: »
    seeker is a mage blessed with ha armor n def buffs. go max dmg, dnt even stat 1 in vit omg... b:shocked

    umm.......ok. be a 1shot
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  • Kentroyven - Harshlands
    Kentroyven - Harshlands Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ive been going 5str 4dex 1vit every 2 levs
    survivability wise ive been fine, just compenstae with shards / refines

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