Seeker or Barb?

nate254
nate254 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
What is more needed and fun? Seeker or Barb?

I cant really decide what to play >.>
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    nate254 wrote: »
    What is more needed and fun? Seeker or Barb?

    I cant really decide what to play >.>

    Barbs are needed on all servers. But if you want to have fun play what you want to play, pay no attention on what is needed or what is "OP".
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    seekers seem to be far less useful than barbs, but are apparenly more fun to play.
    seekers have yet to find their niche, afaik. and there are tons of them running around since they just came out, barbs are always desired, and there arent a lot of them.
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  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Barbs are expensive, but fun.
    What kind of fool pays for a free game.
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    seekers seem to be far less useful than barbs, but are apparenly more fun to play.
    seekers have yet to find their niche, afaik. and there are tons of them running around since they just came out, barbs are always desired, and there arent a lot of them.

    Barbs are extinct.
    as-sas-sin
    /əˈsasin/
    n.
    1. One who murders by surprise attack, especially one who carries out a plot to kill a prominent person.
    synonyms: murderer, killer, gunman, executioner, informalhitman, hired gun.
    Latin assassnus; Greek δολοφόνος
  • nate254
    nate254 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I want to be helpful. I've played barb before, and I kinda liked it. Soo yeahh. I just wish barbs had a TRUE FORM! Like wolf
    > wolfs. Tiger
    > tiger. Panda----> panda and lion to a lion. I'll prolly go barb.
  • Eraldus - Sanctuary
    Eraldus - Sanctuary Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Seekers = Aoe nukers that wear heavy armor and can deal both physical and magical damage at close range or far from your target.

    Our role is pretty much obvious.
    Retired...

    Reasons? Packs, rank gear, picky greedy players, the list goes on b:bye
  • Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide
    Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If your starting out I would not recommend a barb for you the early levels are fun but after 90+ they just become a big headache .The game is heavily unbalanced now and you will find that there are more and more people that will find reasons for other classes to tank rather than just let the barb actualy get on with his job ignoring the fact while the barb might have poor elemental defences he has alot of HP to make up for it.

    Not to mention that we now fail at keeping agro due to the advanced gear and the normal geared sins. Only reason I stick with my barb is it is all I have played since starting here I am to used to him when playing other classes get bored in the lower levels.

    Many will tell you barbs are still usefull what they forget to mention is you are only usefull for three things Buffs, Devour, TW and the first two are about as exciting as watching paint dry. I even here talk these days of seekers and physics pulling cata's in TW so im sure pretty soon will just be two things we are usefull for.
    02/07/2011 - Lost paitence with PWI sold all my gear bought packs and wasted my coin till it was gone... goodbye PWI b:bye
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Eraldus - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seekers = Aoe nukers that wear heavy armor and can deal both physical and magical damage at close range or far from your target.

    Our role is pretty much obvious.

    we already have classes that can do all of the above better. they cant replace BM/Sin for aps DD/tank, wiz, archer, psy are better nukers, they dont have any agro skills, venos are better debuffers.

    im sure there is a place for them somewhere, but there are other classes that can do what they do better.

    why would they be chosen over another class for anything particular?

    outside of PVP i dont see much of an advantage of a ranged HA wearing class, since ranging a mob will cause them to cast magic, which HA is weak against.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    outside of PVP i dont see much of an advantage of a ranged HA wearing class, since ranging a mob will cause them to cast magic, which HA is weak against.

    You can range melee mobs and get a head start....
  • TigerGate - Archosaur
    TigerGate - Archosaur Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    first of all, seekers are better debuffers for magic classes then veno's could hope to be. that aside i would suggest not listening to jaded barbs about how horrible it is to be a barb. being a barbarian is fun because we are the shield that protects every member of our party.

    here is a list of pros and cons.
    -fastest class in the game in true form mode
    -amazing health pool
    -insane defense
    -fast health regen
    -interrupting skills
    -always wanted in a party
    -two really powerful physical aoe nukes (12meters)
    -wanted in zhen squads
    -has two really useful and heavily wanted squad buffs

    cons
    -low damage
    -low magic defence
    -repairs are expensive
  • Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide
    Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    No offence my barbarian brother but you are pre 90 your still in your prime I am not jaded and untill you get up to these levels you will not understand how much the game changes.
    02/07/2011 - Lost paitence with PWI sold all my gear bought packs and wasted my coin till it was gone... goodbye PWI b:bye
  • Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    we already have classes that can do all of the above better. they cant replace BM/Sin for aps DD/tank, wiz, archer, psy are better nukers, they dont have any agro skills, venos are better debuffers.

    You have never played a seeker, right? They're better debuffers then venos, they can also combine debuffs with venos

    Yatagon Vortex (aoe skill) also hits twice as damage as wizard DB
  • Eraldus - Sanctuary
    Eraldus - Sanctuary Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    we already have classes that can do all of the above better. they cant replace BM/Sin for aps DD/tank, wiz, archer, psy are better nukers, they dont have any agro skills, venos are better debuffers.

    im sure there is a place for them somewhere, but there are other classes that can do what they do better.

    why would they be chosen over another class for anything particular?

    outside of PVP i dont see much of an advantage of a ranged HA wearing class, since ranging a mob will cause them to cast magic, which HA is weak against.

    Get your seeker (if you ever have one, because your argument only shows your ignorance about the class) and lvl it until you get your bests skills, then tell me what do you think, if you keep your opinion,sorry, but either you're trolling or you simply doesn't know hot to play as a Seeker.

    OBS: Heartseeker + heartshatter + blade affinity + gemini slash make me kill 90% of the mobs before they ever had the chance to cast a single spell on me ijs...
    Retired...

    Reasons? Packs, rank gear, picky greedy players, the list goes on b:bye
  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Seekers can tank - I know this quite well. Holding aggro is the issue though. Something they share with barbs.
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    we already have classes that can do all of the above better. they cant replace BM/Sin for aps DD/tank, wiz, archer, psy are better nukers, they dont have any agro skills, venos are better debuffers.

    im sure there is a place for them somewhere, but there are other classes that can do what they do better.

    why would they be chosen over another class for anything particular?

    outside of PVP i dont see much of an advantage of a ranged HA wearing class, since ranging a mob will cause them to cast magic, which HA is weak against.

    It will never cease to amaze me how people like you look for reasons to exclude someone or something.
  • nate254
    nate254 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You can range melee mobs and get a head start....

    Im thinking they are hybrid, just like mystic?
  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    TigerGate - Archosaur wrote: »

    here is a list of pros and cons.
    -fastest class in the game in true form mode its one of the fastest yes but not THE fastest, demon veno with demon summer sprint has higher speed than unbuffed tiger w/ lv11 true form
    -amazing health pool its HA so any BM/Seeker can get same amount of hp if they build it like so, frankly now that ppl can get +10 gears so easily its not rly an argument to say that barbs have highest hp pool as i see barbs with 13k hp and sins with 14k
    -insane defense yea, HA so naturally high p def, but BM can get as much or higher with marrow and a HA veno gets more p def in fox than a barb does in true form with lv10 shapeshifting intensity or even sage(120%) specially if veno has sage foxform (150% p def)
    -fast health regen any vit build char can have good hp regen but most of time that alone aint enough to keep u alive
    -interrupting skills sins and BMs also have interrupt skills and im sure so do seekers as they are melee
    -always wanted in a party cant argue with this altho clerics are more wanted in most cases where barb can be replaced
    -two really powerful physical aoe nukes (12meters) from lookin at ecatomb, seekers have hell of a lot more than just 2 aoes, and wizzies have aoe ultis (1 per element)
    -wanted in zhen squads this cant argue altho things die so fast now and ppl dont rly zhen nowadays so most ppl can fill a puller role
    -has two really useful and heavily wanted squad buffs sure theyre useful but not that needed, unless u have **** hp and will get 1-2 shot by mobs/boss inside an instance

    cons
    -low damage barbs werent originally built for damage, tho this can be easily fixed with wep refine
    -low magic defence magic def ornaments work wonders when refined for HA btw
    -repairs are expensiveearly game yes, end game not so much since aps sins/BMs are the ones that end up tanking things instead of barbs

    as for seekers
    meh the seeker elemental debuffs (if ecatomb is correct) only do 30% more damage which is about as strong as sage amp altho amp encompasses ALL damage while seeker skills only focus on certain aspects

    while it looks like they have a LOT of aoes for a single class still doesnt make them any better than other classes as they dont have game breaking skills like sins
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  • nate254
    nate254 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Astraea - Raging Tide wrote: »
    as for seekers
    meh the seeker elemental debuffs (if ecatomb is correct) only do 30% more damage which is about as strong as sage amp altho amp encompasses ALL damage while seeker skills only focus on certain aspects

    while it looks like they have a LOT of aoes for a single class still doesnt make them any better than other classes as they dont have game breaking skills like sins

    All i see there is just bad things about barbs o.o
  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    look at the quote, red letters, kinda hard to miss
    "Common sense isn't so common anymore." ~ Yusiong - Lost City
    b:surrender
  • nate254
    nate254 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Astraea - Raging Tide wrote: »
    look at the quote, red letters, kinda hard to miss

    Thats what i was looking at >.>
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    While Sins and BMs (not sure about seekers) have good survivability, Barbs are primarily built entirely around the concept.

    In general, it's a lot easier to survive in most if not all PvE aspects of the game as a Barb than any other class. That's probably the Barbs biggest draw.
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  • Crit_Heal - Dreamweaver
    Crit_Heal - Dreamweaver Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    roll a barb :)
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