Will mystic replace cleric?

Mystics technically CAN heal for instances, but have a much harder time at it, and use up several times more MP.

I'd personally say go make another cleric.

i was pressed for time in my last post. sorry lol. i'll break down mystics for you.


mystics are a jack of all trades, master of none class. they have summons simular to venos, casting times on some spells are fast as phycis, 4 healing skills (none as good as a clreic), and a ton of debuffs.

their summons can't take too much damage without you healing it. luckly, their pet healing skill is fast, VERY fast, like your pet can be at death's door and you can cast the spell and save it fast lol. the main pet that everyone uses is the devil. it had good enuf damage without having to give it some of your mp. the storm mistress uses mag attacks and is a pain on your mana to keep her with enuf chi to cast spells. salvation (or sally as i like to call her) is a support pet that casts sheilds on her target to make an effect similar to winged shell. she is by far the squishiest of any killable thing in the game lol with crappy damage to boot:P understandable, she's for support. the last summon is cragglord a 20 sec summon that can make you go OMFG due to the damage it can dish out.


2 of their healing skills are plants that are summoned they regen a samll amount of hp over 1 min (one of them does this, the other only lasts 20 secs) the other healing spell is an aoe heal that i really can't compare to a clerics aoe heal. the last heal is a single target heal that has a very fast casting time and near instant cooldown. it's nothing compared to IH clerics have. they have a res buff skill. upon casting it, the one who has it can get right back up. handy in avoiding squad wipes. this buff costs a fair amount of mana to use tho (2660 at level 10)

mystics can debuff the hell outta mobs altho these debuffs just fall short of the debuffs other classes have. while some debuffs only they can use for the moment. they can reduce attack rate, increase channeling time, reduce phy and mag defense, Distract, Slow, Stupify, Weaken, sleep. it's possible to have all of the above debuffs on a mob at the same time.



as stated. mystics need a godly amount of mana to play effectivly. either stock up on homemade pots or grab an mp charm. they can't purify, use BB or RB. the lack of a puirfy skill alone makes cerlics a MUCH better chose for parties. how they are at end game? i would think it's too eairly to tell seeings how they don't have their level 79 skill and sage skills yet lol. i doubt they would be useless endgame.

Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear wrote: »

they have a res buff skill. upon casting it, the one who has it can get right back up. handy in avoiding squad wipes. this buff costs a fair amount of mana to use tho (2660 at level 10)

I have lvl 10 Resurrect and I can confirm it actually takes 3800 mana, not 2660. Yep, even worse xD

lol my bad. i was taking the info from ecatomb. it was saying 2660 mana for a level 10 res buffxD. but 3000+ mana........yeah i'm sure the OP can catch our driftb:laugh

What in the hell is this? The obvious answer is cleric > all.

Seriously though, no b:cool

I've solo healed every thing (except 69) to 79, and have no real problems with it when 2 things don't happen.

1. People don't aggro mobs that everyone else walks right by, so I have to stop and save them with devil stun or healing, while the leet peeps that like to run off like we are playing tag decide to wade into mobs. Or vise versa if somone is lagging way behind and has "friends" to play with.

2. People don't GET INSIDE THE PLANT HEAL RANGE! Seriously if you want to be healed, when you play aggro tag with 3 other people, could you at least try to step into the bright red and white lights everyone else is enjoying? QQ

Basically the same issues my cleric friends always have with questionably intellegent people.

Replacing clerics? Hell no, and even if we could, don't ever let anyone even think we can. There needs to be some serious changes to the class to even compete as a healer (or a dd for that matter).

The changes in China to Resurrection can't come soon enough. I'm getting past sick of having to re-rezbuff an entire squad (fail or otherwise) every few minutes because they can't find a cleric after 20 minutes of spamming and invariably think I have 3800mp X 5 to waste on them on the off chance they DO die.

When it does happen its kinda nice that they were buffed tho b:cute

I'm really looking forward to sage Break in the Clouds (adding chance to purify to my spam heal) and Falling Petals (chance to regen mp to my gimped IH) , and well all the sage skills. The 79 skills especially too (mp regen and 50% damage reduction respectively).

Also the healing plants need either more HP/DEF or to heal themselves/be healable with heal summon. While mine are only lv8 at the moment they can barely last through one good aoe from any boss that I should be expected to be fighting at my lvl.

Do they scale with my lvl after they are maxed? They have zero scaling ability with my magic attack or weapon judging from their limited descriptions. So at end game they more than likely will be totally worthless just like Comforting Mist is if they only ever heal a set ammount (barely enough as is) and die from aoe which is THE MAIN REASON TO USE THEM FOR SQUAD HEALS.

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also the healing plants need either more HP/DEF or to heal themselves/be healable with heal summon. While mine are only lv8 at the moment they can barely last through one good aoe from any boss that I should be expected to be fighting at my lvl.

Agreed. It's rather irritating to use a ton of mana/chi on Vital Herb just to see it get oneshot. b:sad

Any of the plants, really, need to have better hp/def, or something, because they don't last long against bosses that have aoes, and there are a LOT of bosses with aoes. It's just noticably more irritating with the heal plants, since they can heal for a pretty decent amount if they don't die.

As for the OP, most parties I've been in with a cleric, the cleric loved having an offhealer/DD, along with that res buff. We won't replace clerics, but I'd say we're a pretty good complement to them, as we can switch roles pretty quickly, or even DD/heal at the same time. Break in the Clouds is an awesome heal, but you can't really spam it fast enough for high burst damage on a tank (i.e. phys def debuff bosses), whereas Ironheart just keeps going as long as you keep it stacked, not to mention how useful Purify is for many bosses.

The only time a mystic can completely replace a cleric is if that cleric completely sucks at playing the class. I ran a BH51 the other day with the first cleric I've ever seen that doesn't use IH (literally, used it once or twice, and didn't stack it either time), and didn't purify the tank without being yelled at to do so. Clerics like that...well, obviously a well-played mystic could do a whole lot better. For clerics that know how to play their class, we really can't compare. We can be primary healers if we need to, for some bosses at least, but it's much harder to keep the party alive as a mystic than it is to do as a cleric. Cleric heals are safer, and will always be preferred--especially since some bosses literally can't be done with only a mystic for heals.

Not to mention, I actually don't like running parties without a cleric...having to res buff everyone is not only time consuming, but extremely costly in mana (and pots). For those that aren't aware, the buff has a 30 second cooldown, so doing that SIX TIMES every 15 minutes is not only a bit bizarre, but it slows down the squad by a ton.

I'm leaving my rez buff skill at 1 not worth the trouble. If you want reduced exp loss then talk to a cleric.

FeitMACHO - Raging Tide wrote: »

Guys, anybody know what should I do on FC?
I mean, when barb pull many mobs, the guys deal AOE to kill all them quickly, but I don't know which AOE I whould use: "Gale Force", "Thicket" or "Cragglord's skill", I have no idea...
Any experience about that?
Thank You.

Thicket or Cragglord are good options.

Personally I would say thicket though, it's damage is IMMENSE even at my level, and it will silence and freeze most of the mobs you hit with it.
Using after the big pull in the head room basically assures that no one will die due to other people not doing what there supposed to.

I love watching as almost the entire crowd of mobs just stand there in that head room, while the other classes start aoeing the other half of there health away. b:chuckle


But Cragglord is awesome too and more damage, the only problem is he'll probably pull after his 1st aoe and get gibbed.