Legendary Pets worth?

GloomySunday - Dreamweaver
GloomySunday - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
Im a 78 lvl veno at dreamwaver pve server and im wondering if the legendary pets(herc&nix) worth the 200$(both) to aquire them. I have a glacial walker with full bash and tought and a elysium fowl.

My glacial can tank great and i dnt care so much about duelling. Its worth the money to buy and maintain a herc?

Im gonna help my faction in tw also so the Nix its the only way? Or i can raise any other DD pet for this job?

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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You should have post this on Venomancer section,really.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For TW a nix is pretty much mandatory.


    Herc isn't really needed much these days.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For TW a nix is pretty much mandatory.


    Herc isn't really needed much these days.

    Agreed... Unless you plan to spend the vast majority of your "lonely" days solo questing/grinding/whatever, Herc is a colossal (and I found this out for myself first hand unfortunately) waste of money. Nowadays, no decent squad is going to invite a veno to an instance based on their "Herc" credentials. They'll get the Barb/BM/Seeker/Sin to tank instead.

    Most venos that I know are content to stick with the free glacial Walker and upgrade its skills whenever they can.
  • Nuku_Nuku - Raging Tide
    Nuku_Nuku - Raging Tide Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ever since a Herc got nerfed they may not be worth the effort unless u r rich.b:chuckle
    a pure int veno really isn't ment to tank. we are the pullin class that keeps your butt sparkly via sparks
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  • Edyn - Dreamweaver
    Edyn - Dreamweaver Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As you can see in a few threads in the veno section its really all up to you.

    I have a herc, no nix (yet, maybe one day) cause I dont TW yet either AND cause I have a sawfly and scorpion who does some pretty good damage. The herc is really usefull if you love helping out your lower lvl friends with their fb, bh, bosses etc... Also notice you can kill alot more bosses solo then with a GW. If you like aoe'ing a herc is pretty usefull to cause you can let him tank the pets while you start casting your skills.
    IF you like going on the TT-roade a herc is also the way to go.
    So it pretty much depends on your gameplay and your wishes of what you want to accomplish.
    Many ppl, including me, go for the herc first to be able to gather cash for the nix later on. With the nix you can grind probably faster although I hear that it often gets annoying that he gets stuck on the ground when you send him off to a target. If you have amready a flying pet I'd say test it on the groundmobs and see how you like it. There is a little tip that helps here: jump and send the pet that way he shouldnt get stuck in the ground so easily.
    So there are many reasons to think of before deciding.

    cliffnote version:

    Herc is for tanking small bosses, TT, helping your friends and being able to solo more quests on your own, you can take it inside a dungeon and it will survive more boss-aoe's then a normal pet.
    Nix means faster grinding cause of its high attack damage, almost needed to go TW cause there are many veno's out there and sadly they'll prob take a nix'd veno above a a non one :(, can take it in the air and on the ground sadly not in a dungeon.

    If its still necesary to have either? Well no, a veno can function without it. you can see it like an update of your pets. Saving for one shouldnt say you should save all cash for one and forget your skills and so on. Its just easier, and you can do things you couldnt do before, or at least you can do it faster and easier. I had to wait till lvl 96 to get mine but I'm actually happy cause that way you learn to play your char with normal pets.

    Hope this helps you abit, if not there are guides and threads about it in the venomancers section b:cute
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  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ohh a yummy thread --- someone call tweakz so he can start his Herc wohhhhh and herc-less failllllll blah blah
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  • Allisandre - Sanctuary
    Allisandre - Sanctuary Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Aside from Segreta the troll, I agree with all the previous posts. Since they nerved the hercs a long time ago, it hasn't been that elite. My walker with Bash, Roar, Flesh Ream and Tough tanks just fine. (all skills are at level 5 now.) Yeah, I can't solo all of TT with it, but for me, the only real benefit of a herc is an extra 1khp and a bit more def because of the skills.

    Personally, I'll replace tough with protect for 12m and then the walker will do just fine. Hell I tank FCC runs with the walker now when I'm doing training runs and the barb/cleric isn't up to par yet. My walker will take aggro from level 100 hercs with ease, and I have trouble taking aggro from him unless I really get crazy.

    Sure I'm saving for a herc, but it's not a priority. The walker does just fine. I'd also like to note that the cloud skatefish with the levels maxed and slow replaced with flesh ream, does hella damage and has the same def as the sawfly. The skills it comes with makes it a little more versatile I think.
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  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Girls nowdays don't known what the word sarcasm stands for

    Oh well
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  • hydrolace
    hydrolace Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Think of the legendary pets as gear. You don't need the best but it's nice to have it.

    If phoenixes were allowed in instances, some venos would probably forget the tubby gold fellow and keep at just the nix. They come with amazing level 5 buffs and with flesh ream a nix is a very useful asset.
    If you plan on TW a nix will be a great thing for you. Now of course with the input of better gear they're not as "OP" as they used to be but very useful none the less.

    There's a veno somewhere on the forums that upgraded her tabby with herc skills, that's of course an alternative if you don't want a similar pet to many others, but there are some people that will tell you it's not worth it to do such.

    The legendary pets don't define you as a veno but they can make you more wanted, even if they're not a requirement to the class.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    hydrolace wrote: »
    There's a veno somewhere on the forums that upgraded her tabby with herc skills, that's of course an alternative if you don't want a similar pet to many others, but there are some people that will tell you it's not worth it to do such.

    some people will say "it's not worth it" no matter WHAT you propose to put herc skills onto. makes me wonder what those people think legendary skill scrolls are for, exactly, if not putting on some pet or other...

    personally, i'd love to some day trick out an armored bear with herc skills. or maybe get really cute, put 'em on a cuddly pup... only problem is, i'll never afford such a trick. oh well.

    there's a lot to say for using unique pets, though. just the other day i saw a veno in the 3x-level grinding areas using a scout lynxus, and actually felt a little jealous. i'd been thinking of those back when my veno was in the teens levels, but i didn't have a spare pet slot then, and ever since i'd forgot...
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  • Razorburn - Dreamweaver
    Razorburn - Dreamweaver Posts: 188 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Think that maybe it is worth getting a nix, but I am not even sure of that. Definitely more important in this day an age to just get rank 8 an +12 that pataka.
    Also for a pet you can make a custom one almost better than a herc with all those awesome pet skill books that they sell in the heavenly vault in the faction bases. Like the one for 35% more health, 35% more attack etc..all lasting an hour just like the hercs skills do.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Think that maybe it is worth getting a nix, but I am not even sure of that. Definitely more important in this day an age to just get rank 8 an +12 that pataka.
    Also for a pet you can make a custom one almost better than a herc with all those awesome pet skill books that they sell in the heavenly vault in the faction bases. Like the one for 35% more health, 35% more attack etc..all lasting an hour just like the hercs skills do.
    Those have all already been around in DT.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Those have all already been around in DT.

    The ones from faction bases are actually somewhat better than their DT equivalents.
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    plus the ones in DT drop entirely at random, and there's no guarantee of finding any of them for sale on your server in any particular week. the guild base ones, you just need to have a friend in a guild with a base, i'd presume. (those scrolls are tradeable, correct?)
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  • AlphaPrime - Lost City
    AlphaPrime - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Hurc is useless unless your going to solo things. Such as and not limited to: TT, BH, FB, random boss, grinding higher lvl mobs(they dont drop anymore then things your lvl) Nix is a good idea if your going to TW, as far as PVP is concerned, if your a veno, you kite like a noob, and like your pet do the work. I tend to kill every nix I see for this reason, so don't do it unless you have money for cookies cause your chicken will die. To be Frank, both usless unless you really have the money. Other pets get the "hurc skills" and you can max them out. The hurc just has more HP. Being a non rich person, I will never have one. My in game wife is a CSed veno and is very use full... but she has spent thousands on this game ( mostly on fash and getting it all colored, and supporting her tank of a husband b:dirtyb:kiss)

    So in conclusion, do it if your looking to waist money. Veno's aren't that wanted anymore anyway. Amp doesn't work on most bosses in NV, purg is only used on one boss. So good luck getting random fast squads. If I were you ( not to say anything bad about veno's, I love them but not all do) I would start a different class, lvl that, and put the $400 dollars on R8 and R9 gear for it.
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i still find my herc to be very useful and i use him way more often than i use my nix. sometimes i wish i didnt even buy a nix.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    (those scrolls are tradeable, correct?)

    Non-tradeable, can't be put into the account stash, and takes a few weeks of guild contribution quests to get the required contribution.
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  • GloomySunday - Dreamweaver
    GloomySunday - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Thanks for the fast responce :) I will stick with my walker for now and i wil may buy nix for tw after 95
  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Personally, I don't think legendary pets are necessary.

    A nix is nice, though it dies a little fast in PK if he's hit. I have a nix, he's quite useful. I got mine for about 27mill back in the day, now i think they're around 120mill or so... To me that wouldn't be worth it. You can get an other high DD pet, ie: kowlin or petit sawfly.

    Herc: I didn't even bother. Want to know what I did? My favorite pet has always been Aly, my Tabby Plumdrop. She's the first rare I ever tamed, and she never left my pet bag. I buffed her with Strong, Protect, Reflect and Blessing. She now has 16k phys res, 18k mag res, 3.6k HP. (At lease last time i checked, she lvled a few times since then) She's lvl 96, and a great tank. (BH, HH, frost, etc..) Of course, she was my favorite so I decided to OP her, but to get extra def and HP you should go with an armored bear or shaodu cub, or magmite (i personally hate those piles of rock...b:surrender). Blessing would most probably not be needed, but Aly needed it. So you can replace it with bash for agro.

    Note: skills for Aly cost me 75mill, but still a lot cheaper than a herc. Plus she's worth it. Love my OP kitty. <3 Makes her the most unique kitty in game. =3 (if im wrong, tell me pls o.o sure hope she's the only one though >.<)

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  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    nix is purely for pvp.

    herc is purely if u want to solo grind TT and **** like in the olden days of pw. but even that is iffy since u can just make a 4/5aps sin and solo stuff quadrillion times better. yes, quadrillion.

    so really nix/hercs are not nearly as beneficial as they use to be. herc honestly is a waste of time in higher lvls where sins/BMs/barbs and even seekers can tank ****. so just go with the nix only if u pvp. and if u dont pvp then dont worry about either one. get a walker and a sawfly and call it a day.