Veno ears

Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
I was thinking if all venos have animal ears on top of their head(excluding the bat and deer veno) Why do they also have human ears? I know when standing still my tail still wags so I know its real. So in turn the animal ears are brobably real too.

Also since we have 4 ears does that mean our hearing is more then 4 times better then humans?? I mean Cats and foxes have better hearing then humans Add the human ears to the mix. Can we hear better then the animals?
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Eh, "real" isn't relative in this instance. <.<
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  • Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    By real I mean functioning ears. Humor me a bit here. I'm bored.
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I just see them as headwear myself. 2 sets of ears just makes no sense on a mostly human looking character.
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  • Flickerfae - Sanctuary
    Flickerfae - Sanctuary Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Well.... thinking biologically, four ears would probably have more of a directional effect than anything. Like, Venos would be really, really good at pinpointing the direction a noise is coming from, because their ears would each pick them up at different volumes (noises coming from slightly above heard better in animal ears than human, etc).

    But as for power...? Eh.... I'd say not. Yeah, the fox/rabbit/whatever ears are better at picking up and processing than human ears, but there's no indication that the effect would stack... if you have four eyes, would that have any effect on the power of your vision? No, it'd be a depth effect.

    It comes down to actual processing power in the brain, as much as it does the structure of the inner ear. A lot of animals have more processing power diverted to hearing or scent, and those animals often have weaker vision for it. Humans are visual creatures, so that's where the resources go.

    So, no, I doubt our theoretical Venos would necessarily have more powerful hearing than an average fox/rabbit/whatever. More accurate, perhaps, but not more powerful.

    That's my take on it anyway. Now I shall be off, to put another stamp on my nerd card. b:surrender
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  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited March 2011
    Why is that seeker over there
    >

    weilding daggers ??? b:shocked
  • Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OK another question poped into my head. Why is it when your killing flying mobs the drops don't fall to the ground? I mean without my bird I'd fall to the ground. Without the mob holding the drops they should fall to the ground.

    brent40 wrote: »
    Why is that seeker over there
    >

    weilding daggers ??? b:shocked

    It's not a seeker. Is a sin in disguise
  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited March 2011
    Then I guess the sin with the bat ears in the prior pic was a disguise too
  • Jazana - Sanctuary
    Jazana - Sanctuary Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    That's why my veno's ears are set to the smallest and moved so you can't see them. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist. (: b:pleased
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Jazana - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's why my veno's ears are set to the smallest and moved so you can't see them. As far as I'm concerned, they don't exist. (: b:pleased

    I did that as well lol

    IMO they should just remove the human ears from the models, except when you choose the antlers or devil horns.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did that as well lol

    IMO they should just remove the human ears from the models, except when you choose the antlers or devil horns.

    I really like the deer antlers on venos. Those be some fantastic handle bars. b:sin
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  • TimRogers - Archosaur
    TimRogers - Archosaur Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I really like the deer antlers on venos. Those be some fantastic handle bars. b:sin

    Oh no, you didn't, you naughty barb ! >.>
  • Samriss - Heavens Tear
    Samriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I really like the deer antlers on venos. Those be some fantastic handle bars. b:sin
    b:cute


    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide wrote: »
    OK another question poped into my head. Why is it when your killing flying mobs the drops don't fall to the ground? I mean without my bird I'd fall to the ground. Without the mob holding the drops they should fall to the ground.
    You're questioning a game? Really?
    Might as well try and figure out why we don't drown or why our legs don't shatter/we don't die when landing from high heights.
    How are mantas capable of flight?
    How does skimpy armor protect female characters?

    It's just a game.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Samriss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You're questioning a game? Really?
    Might as well try and figure out why we don't drown or why our legs don't shatter/we don't die when landing from high heights.
    How are mantas capable of flight?
    How does skimpy armor protect female characters?

    It's just a game.

    Got a problem with it? b:scorn

    Don't drown because a wizard made it so the water isn't wet anymore and thus we just kinda float in it all casually.
    Our legs don't shatter because they become enhanced and uber-fortified from the jump quests. Women also gain bonus leg strength from always wearing high heels.
    We don't die when landing from high heights because our aeros (or wings) do all the work for us!
    Mantas are capable of flight because they get stoned, high, and drunk. This allows them to defy the laws of physics and float in mid-air.
    How does skimpy armor protect female characters? You've been playing games and don't know this already?
    It's the MMO Law of Female Armor:

    Armor Protection Ratings are inversely proportional to how much of the female body it covers.
    of course, there's also
    The MMO Law of Attacks Versus Female Characters

    An aggressive attack against a female character will always be made against the protected portion of a female character's body.
  • Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Samriss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:cute




    You're questioning a game? Really?
    Might as well try and figure out why we don't drown or why our legs don't shatter/we don't die when landing from high heights.
    How are mantas capable of flight?
    How does skimpy armor protect female characters?

    It's just a game.

    You think I'm being serious? Really?
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Samriss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How are mantas capable of flight?

    Thicker than earths atmosphere and a planet with higher density core resulting in higher gravity well. The same way they "fly" underwater, the right atmospheric conditions would allow similar creatures the ability of flight above water.


    Though, they'd effectively both be born in flight and remain that way their whole lives, considering no landing gear.

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  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i think venos would look very alienated and ugly if they didnt have human ears
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  • Kinnacat - Lost City
    Kinnacat - Lost City Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Vixter - Harshlands wrote: »
    i think venos would look very alienated and ugly if they didnt have human ears

    I don't think they would, if they're placed correctly. If you look at some anime, the cat girls don't look ''alienated and ugly''. They're just so darn cute. =3
  • Samriss - Heavens Tear
    Samriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You think I'm being serious? Really?
    I did think so, yes. I've seen it seriously brought up a few times before, actually, so I guess it's a bit of a pet peeve.

    Lolz you guys sure nailed me. b:chuckle

    Kinnacat - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't think they would, if they're placed correctly. If you look at some anime, the cat girls don't look ''alienated and ugly''. They're just so darn cute. =3
    It's all about the long and/or strategically placed hair! Wonder what they'd look like bald. b:shocked Then they'd sure be alienated and ugly.
  • Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Samriss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I did think so, yes. I've seen it seriously brought up a few times before, actually, so I guess it's a bit of a pet peeve.

    Lolz you guys sure nailed me. b:chuckle



    It's all about the long and/or strategically placed hair! Wonder what they'd look like bald. b:shocked Then they'd sure be alienated and ugly.

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  • Nehru - Heavens Tear
    Nehru - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    When dealing with folklore and things based on it, it's important to remember that Empiricism isn't the only way to look at the universe. there will be internally consistent rules and explanations that hold true under most circumstances, but they may not make sense when viewed from an outside philosophy. Also keep in mind that the Rule of Cool tends to override everything else in video game design.

    So yeah, some venomancers have four ears, people make wine out of gravel and charcoal, human warriors fly around on magic swords, the world ends in an invisible wall, skimpy tissue paper armor provides the same protection as a suit of finely crafted lamellar and Taoist immortals (which is essentially what our characters are) don't need to breath under water.
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  • Tigriss_f - Raging Tide
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Nehru - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    When dealing with folklore and things based on it, it's important to remember that Empiricism isn't the only way to look at the universe. there will be internally consistent rules and explanations that hold true under most circumstances, but they may not make sense when viewed from an outside philosophy. Also keep in mind that the Rule of Cool tends to override everything else in video game design.

    So yeah, some venomancers have four ears, people make wine out of gravel and charcoal, human warriors fly around on magic swords, the world ends in an invisible wall, skimpy tissue paper armor provides the same protection as a suit of finely crafted lamellar and Taoist immortals (which is essentially what our characters are) don't need to breath under water.

    Actually wine makes sense. Metal for the bottle or fermentation tank gravel and charcoal for filtration. And you can actually make wine and whiskey from wood IRL. yeast breaks down the sugars in the sap to make alcohol. Bush uses wood chips to make their beer.


    Of course I made sense of the phrase the rain makes applesauce.
  • Samriss - Heavens Tear
    Samriss - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Tigriss_f - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Don't mine my late night post. I start getting bored and I ask strange questions. I'm kinda like Bill Engval. My mind takes little trips and I take others along with it.
    I feel pretty silly for missing that you weren't serious. It was, what, 4am? Lol I had been up for hours trying to fall asleep so by the time I came to the forum I was pretty cranky. b:surrender

    Y'know, I never have noticed that some Venos have four ears. I'll have to stop by Lost and stalk Venos now. b:laugh
  • Jazana - Sanctuary
    Jazana - Sanctuary Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did that as well lol

    IMO they should just remove the human ears from the models, except when you choose the antlers or devil horns.


    Agreed.
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I really like the deer antlers on venos. Those be some fantastic handle bars. b:sin

    Ha!

    Ahem, anyway...I'm kind of thinking about moving/hiding the human ears now...didn't think about doing that before, hahaha.
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  • sangodoc
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    edited March 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did that as well lol

    IMO they should just remove the human ears from the models, except when you choose the antlers or devil horns.
    Nooo!!! Then my bunny veno would just look weird! b:sad

    I'd have to change her hairstyle to cover up where the ears should be, and I don't want t lose her twintails.

    The one female hair fashion that has a headband that goes right through where the bunny ears are makes it look like the ears are part of the headband, rather than her own. I like the hair, but the combined effect makes it look like she's heading to an anime convention. b:chuckle
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    though i do have a cat and 'dog' veno (the one with the shorter tail but bigger ears) my fave has always been the classic fox, with the full, fluffy tail. and yes, the human ear business has always bothered me. when i made her, i made the ears as small as possible, and tried to set them where her hair would always cover them. the original hair i had for her ws the one with the knot on top, with the silver barrette and hairpin, but i got very tired of seeing it. when wigs came out, i snagged the leopard wave, and that is what she wears most of the time, though i recently got the Renaissance wig.

    what i really wish would be if the styles of all the classes could be made avaiable to everyone...there are a couple of short styles i would so love to have, and one for the EG that would look interesting on a kirin veno (deer horn)

    does anyone have a way of figuring the time lag between the chinese items coming out in their shop, and them getting into ours? or put up for some kind of contest....? there is a new mount that looks so much like Toothless from the movie "How To Train Your Dragon" that i would really like to have....fat chance, though. it would surely be put up as prize in a pack. but there are lots of clothes and other things that i see on ecatomb that i wonder, 'how long before PWI gets these"?

    anyone know the approximate time lag?
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    lol just be glad you have ears the tideborn dont have ears then have fins for ears.

    which makes you wonder how can sins be so stealthy if they are deaf?

    lol b:chuckle
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol just be glad you have ears the tideborn dont have ears then have fins for ears.

    which makes you wonder how can sins be so stealthy if they are deaf?

    lol b:chuckle

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  • Julian - Dreamweaver
    Julian - Dreamweaver Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Simple answer as to why cat and fox venos have 4 ears. The developers fail biology forever.
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  • Sereneai - Dreamweaver
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol just be glad you have ears the tideborn dont have ears then have fins for ears.

    which makes you wonder how can sins be so stealthy if they are deaf?

    lol b:chuckle

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