State of the Game 3/18/11

Skulla - Dreamweaver
Skulla - Dreamweaver Posts: 163 Arc User
edited June 2011 in General Discussion
Well, Genesis has been out long enough for people to get the expansion (mostly) figured out.

Seems like it's time for some review. For me, I like the new classes so far. Mystic is a blast (eats mana like nothing I've ever seen before but fun to play) and been hearing mostly good things from the seeker players too. Mirages for buffs is apparently not sitting well with the player base though.

Faction Bases are pretty much a non-starter for most factions that don't have a lot or don't want to risk losing all the money that they just spent on their base in a 40v40 battle.

Tellus city lags pretty hard, not quite as bad as Raging Tides city but still pretty laggy. All the fancy moving light stuff is cool I guess but man it slows a lower performance PC to a crawl.

Rubberbanding is still an issue of course, nothing new there, unless maybe it got worse.

Even more quests are available now so more people are standing around trying to form squads for them. Getting instanced squad runs together is ridiculously time consuming.

And now we have the infamous FC Alt runs going on.
This is the start of the end-phase of the game's life-cycle in my opinion.
When you have a significant portion of the population who have reached the 'end' of the game and then just begin 'mass producing' rapidly leveled alts you have absolutely no hope of retaining any semblance of game balance.

I hate to think this game might eventually fade away but I think I see some shimmering dissipation beginning around the edges.

PW isn't dead, but it sure as Hell isn't healthy either.

Luckily for me, I play when and how I want and really don't care too much about all the things that are 'wrong' with the game. The things that I don't like are still generally overshadowed by my enjoyment of goofing off in a 'Perfect World'.
And it still beats reality TV. b:victory
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  • XXMonaXx - Heavens Tear
    XXMonaXx - Heavens Tear Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I remember when I first begun. The beginning grounds were filled of new players and everyone looked up to the level 80's :)

    Now the only new players...are just alts. I think another year or more and this game will begin to fade away unless PWI adds something to keep the high levels around and maybe advertise the game more.
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Can't give any specifics, but our dev team fully intends to add new content to the game in the near future, so keep in mind that the Genesis expansion as it stands now is but the beginning of some very exciting things.
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    A serious thread that will not contain an assuring response from a GM.
  • Darknin - Lost City
    Darknin - Lost City Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Can't give any specifics, but our dev team fully intends to add new content to the game in the near future, so keep in mind that the Genesis expansion as it stands now is but the beginning of some very exciting things.

    Been promised before and where's my exciting content? Oh right...... "you're working on it"
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  • Skulla - Dreamweaver
    Skulla - Dreamweaver Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Well, honestly didn't expect Frankie to weigh in here so rapidly. (at all)

    Thanks, Frankie I feel all warm 'n fuzzy inside man!

    And good to hear there is something more content-wise on the horizon too.
  • Kinerva - Lost City
    Kinerva - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Can't give any specifics, but our dev team fully intends to add new content to the game in the near future, so keep in mind that the Genesis expansion as it stands now is but the beginning of some very exciting things.

    And let me guess, those new and exciting things include adding in completely useless/bugged features, "fixes" for already working features, and ignoring the things that actually need to be updated.
    Yeah, doesn't sound too thrilling. b:bye
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kinerva - Lost City wrote: »
    And let me guess, those new and exciting things include adding in completely useless/bugged features, "fixes" for already working features, and ignoring the things that actually need to be updated.
    Yeah, doesn't sound too thrilling. b:bye

    bzzzz, wrong guess ;)
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  • Kinerva - Lost City
    Kinerva - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    bzzzz, wrong guess ;)

    But, of course, you would never openly admit to that. b:chuckle
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've been playing since around Open Beta ended...

    Give it some time.

    Rubberbanding is slowly going away. I've noticed it waaaay less lately.

    So they are obviously working on stuff.

    Stuff your QQ in a bag and save it for later, if it's needed... Time will tell.

    I swear, everyone wants everything 'now, now now!' Spoiled little children.
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    95 Demon Wiz/
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    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kinerva - Lost City wrote: »
    But, of course, you would never openly admit to that. b:chuckle

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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Can't give any specifics, but our dev team fully intends to add new content to the game in the near future, so keep in mind that the Genesis expansion as it stands now is but the beginning of some very exciting things.

    Serious question:

    Is there any chance that this new content may contain a Auto group feature like in Forsaken world?

    Are there any new instances?

    Will the Mana consumption for Seekers and Mystics be balanced out so that it deals damage/heals according to the appropriated amount of mana spent?

    Will there be punch and pie?
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    New classes are only half done, for the second time in a row, not too impressed.


    Guild bases are a joke. They were not altered for PWI players and the prices are based on the PWCN economy. Weapons are 1 billion coins, you can get R9 for that. Tomes are 30mil less than a scroll of tome for less than half the stat points. Helms are 8 times the cost of a nirvana helm for the same thing.


    Runecrafting is horrendously expensive. The chi stones and the shards are ridiculous. It costs almost 100k for just a level 1 rune and the bonuses aren't that useful, although it does make your weapon look cool.



    All in all, the expansion was half baked at best.
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  • ChloeAgave - Archosaur
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I've been playing since around Open Beta ended...

    Give it some time.

    Rubberbanding is slowly going away. I've noticed it waaaay less lately.

    So they are obviously working on stuff.

    Stuff your QQ in a bag and save it for later, if it's needed... Time will tell.

    I swear, everyone wants everything 'now, now now!' Spoiled little children.

    +1000

    Finally, someone else who thinks the same way I do.
  • Kinerva - Lost City
    Kinerva - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3N_Lkgftc4
    But the problem with that is that you guys to do this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbiPR2TXhnk&feature=related

    b:lipcurl
  • Darjin - Dreamweaver
    Darjin - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ChloeAgave - Archosaur wrote: »
    +1000

    Finally, someone else who thinks the same way I do.


    Agreed. PW supports there in house games (PWI and FW) much better than any other F2P company does there games. I'd like to see all the whine when they try another game.
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kinerva - Lost City wrote: »
    But the problem with that is that you guys to do this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbiPR2TXhnk&feature=related

    b:lipcurl

    how dare you bring Eduard into this.
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  • Jellytoast - Sanctuary
    Jellytoast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    To be honest, I think PWI should make a commercial to be played on tv. I noticed myself just wanting to play a new *unmentioned* MMO just from the commercial, and that's where I heard about it even. b:victory



    Btw frankie, awesome song :D
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Darjin - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Agreed. PW supports there in house games (PWI and FW) much better than any other F2P company does there games. I'd like to see all the whine when they try another game.

    I play a P2P MMO as well. Huge disconnect there.

    I haven't played any other F2P MMO's yet, but I might... Just to see how different they are.
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I flew to the Earthguard beginning town and bragged about getting 76k crits on Blue Squirrels and told them to kneel before the great Psychic, as they were all inferior classes. So that was fun. Well worth the huge download.

    Then I went back to what I normally do.
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  • Kinerva - Lost City
    Kinerva - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Darjin - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Agreed. PW supports there in house games (PWI and FW) much better than any other F2P company does there games. I'd like to see all the whine when they try another game.

    That's because a good F2P mmo is virtually an oxymoron.
    The only reason why I still play this game is because, by design, this game wasn't meant to be f2p. You can still sorta get around not paying for everything because the original devs didn't design it that way.
    That is why F2P mmos fail; they all base their games on heavy cs usage. For PW though, the cash shop was a later addition. And no, I don't mean PWI, I'm mean when the original version of it became F2P.
    I suppose the devs for this game do care more than the average F2P mmo anyhow, but its still nowhere near the attention that P2P mmos get from their devs.
    frankieraye wrote: »
    how dare you bring Eduard into this.
    Why not? Him and his song accurately depicts your whole company. b:sin
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I play a P2P MMO as well. Huge disconnect there.

    I haven't played any other F2P MMO's yet, but I might... Just to see how different they are.

    I'll save you the discomfort.

    All other f2p suck horribly. 90% of them are just tossed out there, and the devs never add anything new or update the game. Ever.

    The game will also have at least (but not limited to) one of the following problems:

    Crappy graphics. We're talking like 5 pixels here.
    Horrible class balance. You think sins are bad? There's worse, much worse.
    Rubberbanding of epic proportions, and I do mean epic.
    Severe lack of gameplay. PWI doesn't have much for endgame, other games don't have much for early, mid, or end game.
    Glitches galore.
    And more!!!

    PWI is by faaaaaar the best F2P out there. Even at it's worst it is much better than the competition.
  • Nael - Dreamweaver
    Nael - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    PWI is by faaaaaar the best F2P out there. Even at it's worst it is much better than the competition.

    Sadly true. No other F2P MMO's can **** their players so much yet still have millions of people playing daily. When people "leave" PWI for other games, it's mostly for P2P MMO's or retail MMO's.
  • Darknin - Lost City
    Darknin - Lost City Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Nael - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sadly true. No other F2P MMO's can **** their players so much yet still have millions of people playing daily. When people "leave" PWI for other games, it's mostly for P2P MMO's or retail MMO's.

    I'd throw in Nexon buuuuuuuuuut they've been pretty good recently.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    PWI is probably the best F2P mmo there is, although that it doesn't mean that it doesn't have some HUUUUUUUUGGEEE issues.


    Altho non-mmo wise, there are a few F2P games that are better than PWI
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  • Yukkuri - Heavens Tear
    Yukkuri - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Can't give any specifics, but our dev team fully intends to add new content to the game in the near future, so keep in mind that the Genesis expansion as it stands now is but the beginning of some very exciting things.

    This worries me somewhat... Ok, they're making new content, great. However as with everthing from Rising Tide onwards they have been specifically developing everything to fit China only and pretty much giving us the finger (and that's putting it nicely).

    Now then, the question is: Will this new content be suitable for the International version of Perfect World?
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    o.O
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  • Aio - Lost City
    Aio - Lost City Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This worries me somewhat... Ok, they're making new content, great. However as with everthing from Rising Tide onwards they have been specifically developing everything to fit China only and pretty much giving us the finger (and that's putting it nicely).

    Now then, the question is: Will this new content be suitable for the International version of Perfect World?

    Of course not
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    o.O

    It's FRYDAY FRYDAY, gotta get down on FRYDAY. b:bye
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  • Yukkuri - Heavens Tear
    Yukkuri - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've been wondering about it... If the new content is gonna be the 40 vs 40 fights, I'm gonna cry.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's FRYDAY FRYDAY, gotta get down on FRYDAY. b:bye

    It's Fried Egg! >:

    Get it right. b:cute
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