Mana Cost

Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Mystic
Since Mystic is so heavy on the mana spending, I want to know how much each skill/spell requires in mana for each lvl.

For character spells i just read the discription.

Where can I find a list over Pet Skills and their mana cost lvl by lvl?

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this show skill lvls but not mana cost: http://img40.imageshack.us/i/mysticpet.png

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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    All hail ecatomb (b:beg)
    http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/skillpwi.php


    Just a spoiler . . .
    Lv 10 Resurrect = Mana 2660
    Lv 10 Heal Summon = Mana 275
    Lv 1 Cragglord = Mana 1239

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  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    All hail ecatomb (b:beg)
    http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/skillpwi.php


    Just a spoiler . . .
    Lv 10 Resurrect = Mana 2660
    Lv 10 Heal Summon = Mana 275
    Lv 1 Cragglord = Mana 1239

    (b:chuckle)

    Those are Character spells, and not mainly what i was looking for.

    I need Mana Cost of pet own spells, like: Folding Strike, Luna Strike and so on ....
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sorry, i think it because i am too tired when post the earlier reply . . (b:surrender)
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  • kreap
    kreap Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For folding strike it's +20MP with each lvl (lvl1 25, lvl2 45, lvl3 65...)
    For Skull slap it's +40MP with each lvl.

    and to answer most of your question, yes they will drain most of you MP if you insist to use them everytime, so don't unless needed (folding strike to let the pet get the aggro, and stun for getting time advantage). but the pet overall gets better on himself without the skills.

    and I haven't tested leveling other summons.
  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    @ MoonUsagi, don't suggest Ecatomb for Mystic skills anymore. Some of the mana costs on that site are very wrong.

    As for pet skills, I haven't been keeping track of mine, but I could post my current values for Storm Mistress and Salvation in a few minutes when I get on.

    Edit:

    Salvation - Level 3
    -Martyrdom: 35 mana (+ more mana when taking damage)
    -Aegis Sphere: 220 mana

    Storm Mistress - Level 3
    -Hush: 165 mana
    -Luna Blade: 115 mana
  • tubai05
    tubai05 Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I have a question guys as its told before nd all knows that mystic spends too much mana to use a skill..isnt that unfair?comparing to all other mag classes its too much mana cost for mystics skills.even they doesnt have either any mana regeneration buff or mp upper limit max buff but still takes too much mana for skills.shouldnt they reconsider about to lowere the mana cost?
  • Caterpie - Dreamweaver
    Caterpie - Dreamweaver Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    tubai05 wrote: »
    I have a question guys as its told before nd all knows that mystic spends too much mana to use a skill..isnt that unfair?comparing to all other mag classes its too much mana cost for mystics skills.even they doesnt have either any mana regeneration buff or mp upper limit max buff but still takes too much mana for skills.shouldnt they reconsider about to lowere the mana cost?

    The mana cost helps to balance the class. Honestly, if they made our mana costs more manageable, we would completely wreck everything in PvE.

    And as you level up, the MP cost gets better. I'm not saying it no longer becomes a problem, but it gets better than using up half your MP bar on a single skill.
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  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Caterpie - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And as you level up, the MP cost gets better. I'm not saying it no longer becomes a problem, but it gets better than using up half your MP bar on a single skill.

    Not when it comes to Resurrect. I use over half my mana on that skill when I cast it now. And the Vital Herb is close to 900 mana. At level 1. That's a bit extreme, considering that thing already costs a spark and will die in less than 5 seconds if it gets hit at all...not to mention the mana-regen skill that we supposedly get only gives 2k mana, with a 5m cooldown. That's not even worth using, if it's still that way when they release it.

    But yes, I agree to some extent that using more mana is our compensation for being a jack of all trades class. I just don't think it has to be as extreme as it is currently, on some skills.
  • Kosame - Dreamweaver
    Kosame - Dreamweaver Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The resurrect skill seriously hurts on the mp costs, at level 1 its 500mp and at level 2 it bumps to 1kmp i think level 3 is around 1,350mp or something... seriously for something that only lasts 15 mins that's a very steep mp drainer. Even if its supposed to be one of those "Oh dear, things don't look good, I better cast pre-rez" you're usually not lingering around the required mp cost when that thought comes to mind.

    And why must the mp cost go up so horribly much each level? 500 > 1k.. I'd rather just leave it at level 1 and say "sorry guys you're only getting the 8% exp back because this skill wastes half my mp when I got it..."
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    lvl 10 res is 3,800 MP .. mines still at lvl 2 when i can get it to lvl 10 now XD i dont think i will get it to 10 until im 75 and can use the MP food.
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  • tubai05
    tubai05 Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Another skill is lvl 39 skill "healing plant" which is the most worse healing skill i ever saw..though its aoe healing nd looks so awesom but it gives only 35hp after every 2 sec.Its so worthless even u max it to lvl 10,though it will cost u a ton of sp and money it will maximum heal u 125hp/2sec which not worth it..ha ha what a wasteb:chuckle
  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    tubai05 wrote: »
    Another skill is lvl 39 skill "healing plant" which is the most worse healing skill i ever saw..though its aoe healing nd looks so awesom but it gives only 35hp after every 2 sec.Its so worthless even u max it to lvl 10,though it will cost u a ton of sp and money it will maximum heal u 125hp/2sec which not worth it..ha ha what a wasteb:chuckle

    It's not meant to be a main heal. It's an aoe HoT, imo just meant to be a small hp regen that helps the mystic or cleric keep up with heals. If it was more like 300 per tick, that would be a bit OP for something that lasts an entire minute.

    Granted, in most situations where it would be useful (bosses with AoEs) it dies too fast, so I don't really use it all that much as of yet. Vital Herb is a lot more useful (bigger heals in a shorter duration), but much more costly in mana. Still, Healing Herb is still good if the tank needs a little extra healing on a non-aoe boss.
  • TuIip - Raging Tide
    TuIip - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I have to say...I honestly think the mystic mp costs are way out balanced. 3800mp for rez that lasts 15mins that might or might not be used....
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rez buff should either be an aoe for that cost and low duration, or extended to 30 mins/an hour. :(
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  • phatlewt1
    phatlewt1 Posts: 1
    edited March 2011
    Yeah, I rarely use the rez buff because it is simply ridiculous in cost. It makes it painful to use a mp charm since casting rez is an automatic tick on your charm.
  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I never, ever use the res buff for soloing unless I'm doing a boss I'm not sure about. It just costs too much for 15m. I think I remember someone saying that in CN the buff is 30 mins? So maybe we'll get that too ;-;. I wouldn't mind the insane MP costs AS much if it lasted longer, but as it is, I only ever use it in instances, where it's a bit much to bother buffing more than one person (cleric) with it.
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think we will get an update some time in the future for our revive buff (like wan mei has) that extends the buff to 30 mins, and also reduces the cost of mana. i -hope- we get that soon
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  • Daltia - Sanctuary
    Daltia - Sanctuary Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I hope so too, the mana cost on mystic rez is so far beyond what the rest of our skills have managed. I'm a pure build and it stings....I can only imagine how it feels to anyone who's chosen to go with an alternative build...

    most of the other skill's mana costs are managable, to the point that I can use them in normal play without feeling put out...but I will say that when I hopped back on my wizzy to help with a few things, I literally felt like I had infinite mana.
  • phatlewt1
    phatlewt1 Posts: 1
    edited March 2011
    Both mystic and seeker seem almost intentionally designed to lure players into buying mp charms or spending tons and tons of tokens on mp food. Basically, the new classes are designed to bring in more cash shop money for pwi. The mana cost really are way out of whack with the other classes.
  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You guys make me LLLOOOOOOOLLLL b:laugh

    I play my mystic like i play my venos, 0 zilch nothing nada MP POTS, and I am doing fine (no charm either). b:cute

    There is something called MP regen on your armour, stop buying the best armour with nothing on it. I use **** 1 star armour and have no problems (+12 MP regen at lvl 36). Average armour piece costs me 25k in Auction House (full armour set worth, grind half a day). And regards to ress spell? I play on a PvP server now and die as frequently as I did on the PvE servers, about once a week.
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  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You guys make me LLLOOOOOOOLLLL b:laugh

    I play my mystic like i play my venos, 0 zilch nothing nada MP POTS, and I am doing fine (no charm either). b:cute


    You can use apoc mana regen pots for +50 mana regen...doesn't mean you'll run out of mana any less. Perhaps a bit slower, but with how fast mystics tear through mana, it doesn't help all that much. If you're using your skills right, i.e. actually attacking, transferring mana to your pet, healing, using a res buff in groups, then you're going to run out of mana very quickly. The skills just use too much. If you say you don't have to use mp pots after using a res buff, I'd have to call you out on your blatant lie, because that's exactly what it is. If you're using plants during fights, I'd have to call you out on that as well, because those things suck up mana like crazy as well. But nice attempt at telling the entire thread we're total morons and don't know how to manage mana. b:bye
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Unless she's just letting her pet do all the work and healing it occasionally. You could probably meditate while your summon kills things, and heal it every now and then without ever touching a pot. So pro.
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  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ephemera - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I'd have to call you out on your blatant lie, because that's exactly what it is. If you're using plants during fights, I'd have to call you out on that as well, because those things suck up mana like crazy as well. But nice attempt at telling the entire thread we're total morons and don't know how to manage mana. b:bye

    Well, i don't lie, and i don't use plants either. I use Storm Mistress 90% of the time, keeping her at lvl 1 is OP enough. I didn't call anyone any names (like you do), just had myself a giggle, and now i had another. b:laugh
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  • Yui_ - Harshlands
    Yui_ - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, i don't lie, and i don't use plants either. I use Storm Mistress 90% of the time, keeping her at lvl 1 is OP enough. I didn't call anyone any names (like you do), just had myself a giggle, and now i had another. b:laugh



    .....I just. .........Yeah.


    Pretty sure everyone here already understands how seriously this post should be treated. b:chuckle
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  • Ephemera - Raging Tide
    Ephemera - Raging Tide Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Unless she's just letting her pet do all the work and healing it occasionally. You could probably meditate while your summon kills things, and heal it every now and then without ever touching a pot. So pro.

    I actually had a mystic tell me I should do that, when I complained about the mana costs in fac chat. She said she'd done it the same on her veno--never heal, never attack, just sit there and let your pet kill. Then she proceeded to tell me how mystics don't have mana problems at all, and that, if anything, venos have it worse. I lol'd.
  • TuIip - Raging Tide
    TuIip - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You guys make me LLLOOOOOOOLLLL b:laugh

    I play my mystic like i play my venos, 0 zilch nothing nada MP POTS, and I am doing fine (no charm either). b:cute

    There is something called MP regen on your armour, stop buying the best armour with nothing on it. I use **** 1 star armour and have no problems (+12 MP regen at lvl 36). Average armour piece costs me 25k in Auction House (full armour set worth, grind half a day). And regards to ress spell? I play on a PvP server now and die as frequently as I did on the PvE servers, about once a week.

    Good job there...does ur veno even have its amp skill? Or maybe did u realise that atleast one of ur veno skills lets ur pet hit the mob harder? U don't get many groups do u?
  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    TuIip - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Good job there...does ur veno even have its amp skill? Or maybe did u realise that atleast one of ur veno skills lets ur pet hit the mob harder? U don't get many groups do u?

    You know the funny part? I havent been joking for a sek, just giggled a bit cause i am a happy person and i love doing that.

    I lvl up about 60 characters, of those are 14 venos. I have 7 hercs (1 for each server) and 1 nix. I can safely say that since I as a veno specialist are beeing targeted here, sais not so much about me. I leave the rest up to you to figure out.

    I was one of the first to play this game, have played almost daily ever since and will be here till servers shut down. So make all the fun you want about me, ppl know me on all the servers, and my services and advice are in great demand. b:cute
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  • TuIip - Raging Tide
    TuIip - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I noticed u didn't bother to answer the questions....
  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    TuIip - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I noticed u didn't bother to answer the questions....

    You are definitly correct. If I can do stuff in this game that others say is impossible, then i also know when it is wise to speak. Getting the critisism i get here, I consider that a good thing. Because it clearly shows the difference between the amateurs and pros. I am not afraid to use such a word either cause i know the meaning of it, and i have not had any problems regarding getting squads, cause ppl that know me, always enjoy having me in their squads.

    I am definitly sounding like I am better than most of the other players i understand, and with very good reason too. I welcome these forum critics, because it shows who I shal not cooperate with ingame. So continue your QQ without me.

    Love y'all, bye for now. b:cute
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  • MrsBowsama - Heavens Tear
    MrsBowsama - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    omg did I just witness an "I am so pro" post D: -shakes head-

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