Wizards Rock (Reasons to make a wizard)

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Hi, after spending about 2 years playing PWI I came to love my class, tho some ppl say wizards suck but LOL I dont really care I have seen that at the very end of the game Wizards are riping class.

After hitting lvl 100 I decided it was time to test the maximum potential of a wizard, tho im not rich to spend thousands of $$$ on experimenting with tons of endgame gear combinations etc. So I decided to practice on a test server, wich is just like PWI exept the exp/drop/spirit rates are fixed so u can lvl up fast and get all the gear u want in no time (I know some ppl dont like those but I can say u can leanr a lot about the real endgame playstyle and then use what u know on PWI). So I made a lvl 150 wizard (just like the original Malaysian version), PWI max lvl is 105 atm but dont worry they will increase it someday its just that for some reason the Occidental version (PWI) is not very updated but they are working on it, so after making this I can tell u wizard have NO weak point.

This is the status of an average wizard.

Slow casting time.

Hard hits.

Low-Mid Phys deff

High magic deff

Low Hp

This is the status of my lvl 150 endgame wizard:

Hard hits.

High Pyhs deff (16k phys deff using wizard selfbuff & 22k when fully buffed)

High Magic deff (16k mag deff & 18k with cleric buff, u can also get even more fire,water and earth using wizard self buffs)

High HP (over 15k HP) and im not even using HP shards on my armour LOL just Drakeflame Gems (endgame garnet gems)

Finnaly and most important... INSTANT CHANNELING TIME thats right endgame gear some rank 9 parts, lunar ornamets etc if u get the proper combination of gear u can get 99% -channeling and become instant cast mage like me u will rip everything in less than 5 seconds (exept sage barbs on tiger form) lol those have over 70k ph so it takes a bit more to kill but u can still do it tho.

There are a LOT more of reasons why I can tell u endgame wizards FTW but ill go rest for now ill update this later.

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver · March 2011

My cousin used to run one of the Perfect World private servers. I think the main reason they are godlike there is because they can cast without even doing animations. Can just 123456... and hit someone with a ton of skills back to back. Same with clerics.

Edit: It may be a little bit more realistic if you try to obtain gear and level that is within your reach on PWI when testing things on a private server though. This is how I done it anyways.

Adroit - Lost City · March 2011

insta cast got fixed in pwi.. private servers =/= pwi at all. Do you even have tideborn/genies? *rolls eyes*

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

insta cast got fixed in pwi.. private servers =/= pwi at all. Do you even have tideborn/genies? *rolls eyes*

I am sure if any private server did have sins most players would easily keep tons of accuracy pots and use them all the time.

Edit: Oops. I meant to say Detection.

Adroit - Lost City · March 2011

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I am sure if any private server did have sins most players would easily keep tons of accuracy pots and use them all the time.

Edit: Oops. I mean to say Detection.

So? You can't see a sin your level if they use force stealth even with detection pots.. the fact that you think putting your apoth pots on cooldown to have a chance at seeing someone (how do you know they're there?) is a good idea, or that you'd even have a chance against a sin if they didn't have stealth is laughable.

@n00bs - stop acting like you know what you're talking about.. you don't.

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Noob? You resort to name calling just like other people that don't have any good arguement. PvP is far more fair in private servers than in PWI and adding a sin wont really affect it much. Even if there is only detection pots there the GMs there would probably add or modify something so sins are not so OP.

And I doubt a sin is unbeatable even without using stealth as you stated.

Adroit - Lost City · March 2011

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Noob? You resort to name calling just like other people that don't have any good arguement. PvP is far more fair in private servers than in PWI and adding a sin wont really affect it much. Even if there is only detection pots there the GMs there would probably add or modify something so sins are not so OP.

And I doubt a sin is unbeatable even without using stealth as you stated.

I judge based on what I read. You making a n00b statement leads me to believe you are just that. "fair" is subjective, but I could care less.. this is pwi, private servers don't matter. I didn't say a sin in unbeatable (although beating a good sin 1/10 times would be an accomplishment)

The fact that you "doubt" a sin is unbeatable just means you don't have enough experience in the matter. Feel free to roll a wizard.. realize that there is not a single thing you can do defensively or offensively to fight off a sin.. the only way to survive is with a flat out immune.. and those are so costly cooldown wise.. its only a delay tactic. You use an ironguard.. they laugh and kite/stealth/use their own pot. You expel, they laugh and keep you in place till it wears off and finish you off in no time flat.. the list just goes on and on and on. Fighting a sin as a wizard with just self buffs (perhaps if a psy gave u their buffs lol..) is just hopeless. Only a fool would say otherwise.

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Double Post.

ElwinCastor - Dreamweaver · March 2011

You seem to be very angry and upset. Perhaps you play this game too much and take it to seriously and are upset because you can't beat a sin? We were discussing using a private server to try out classes to save money and you come in rolling your eyes and calling names. The last few posts have done nothing to contribute to the discussion and I am ashamed to have been part of that now.

Sorry for leading your thread astray.

MageFizban - Lost City · March 2011

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

I judge based on what I read. You making a n00b statement leads me to believe you are just that. "fair" is subjective, but I could care less.. this is pwi, private servers don't matter. I didn't say a sin in unbeatable (although beating a good sin 1/10 times would be an accomplishment)

The fact that you "doubt" a sin is unbeatable just means you don't have enough experience in the matter. Feel free to roll a wizard.. realize that there is not a single thing you can do defensively or offensively to fight off a sin.. the only way to survive is with a flat out immune.. and those are so costly cooldown wise.. its only a delay tactic. You use an ironguard.. they laugh and kite/stealth/use their own pot. You expel, they laugh and keep you in place till it wears off and finish you off in no time flat.. the list just goes on and on and on. Fighting a sin as a wizard with just self buffs (perhaps if a psy gave u their buffs lol..) is just hopeless. Only a fool would say otherwise.

No, I don't give wizzies my buff. They're too squishy.

Adroit - Lost City · March 2011

MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »

No, I don't give wizzies my buff. They're too squishy.

b:cry ih8u

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · March 2011

Look, I'm all for the "wizards aren't dead yo" movement and all, but OP is just plain wrong on so many things I don't know where to start...

so I simply won't b:bye

Nurfed_You - Harshlands · March 2011

Gotta agree with adroit. i dont have epic gear, but i have the r9 set and tht only gives me a chance to kill sins instead of getting one shot out of stealth. r9set for a wiz.....vs......cheap 99 r8 stuff for a sin. yeah sounds like sins are so easy to beat *sarcasm*

prof · March 2011

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lvl 150 wizard

yeah, because that will give you practice you need for official pw pking, having 250 more stat points.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

(just like the original Malaysian version)

wrong, myen cap was never 150.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

PWI max lvl is 105 atm but dont worry they will increase it someday its just that for some reason the Occidental version (PWI) is not very updated but they are working on it, so after making this I can tell u wizard have NO weak point.

wrong again, pwi is the second most current version(next to cn), and will raise cap as more players reach level 105. thousands of players hit 105 before cn raised their cap to 120.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is the status of an average wizard.

Slow casting time.

Hard hits.

Low-Mid Phys deff

High magic deff

Low Hp

this is your opinion.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is the status of my lvl 150 endgame wizard:

Hard hits.

High Pyhs deff (16k phys deff using wizard selfbuff & 22k when fully buffed)

High Magic deff (16k mag deff & 18k with cleric buff, u can also get even more fire,water and earth using wizard self buffs)

High HP (over 15k HP) and im not even using HP shards on my armour LOL just Drakeflame Gems (endgame garnet gems)

I hit hard, I have 17k pdef self buffed, I have almost 10k hp, I'm level 102.

you're doing it wrong.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Finnaly and most important... INSTANT CHANNELING TIME thats right endgame gear some rank 9 parts, lunar ornamets etc if u get the proper combination of gear u can get 99% -channeling and become instant cast mage like me u will rip everything in less than 5 seconds (exept sage barbs on tiger form) lol those have over 70k ph so it takes a bit more to kill but u can still do it tho.

the instant cast glitch was patched before you knew pw existed. any cast time above 90% in pwi is reset to 90%.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There are a LOT more of reasons why I can tell u endgame wizards FTW but ill go rest for now ill update this later.

please, don't. you disgust me.

Toliman - Raging Tide · March 2011

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

...I decided it was time to test the maximum potential of a wizard, tho im not rich to spend thousands of $$$ on experimenting with tons of endgame gear combinations etc...

Key words for Free to play game:"not rich".

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver · March 2011

lol darkflames? no JoSD in the server? but even vit stones sound better.

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver · March 2011

I love my wizard b:dirty

...but i made a sin and a cleric cuz its hard to find a squad for nirvana or TT even with full r9 set.

no aps, no party b:angry

Chillum - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I love my wizard b:dirty

...but i made a sin and a cleric cuz its hard to find a squad for nirvana or TT even with full r9 set.

no aps, no party b:angry

I haven't done many Nirvana runs. Only 3 in fact since I turned 100 a while back but of those 3, 2 were 3 wizard teams! b:laugh

40 minutes or so per run. Not your 10 minute job with mass APSers but not exactly super terrible either.

I remember some looooooooooooooooooooooog TT runs i've had in the past. Ugh.....

Ursa - Dreamweaver · March 2011

TTs were long because ppl went in there with tt90 green refined to a max of 5. Same with the rest of the gear. Go with same gear now and you'll see how long it takes.

Sure, aps cut down the time a lot, but also the high refines on ppl's wep and gear give beter dmg/survival.
When 3-1/3-2 were at the beginning, ppl were farming them with TT80 gear +3/4, beautiful shards in gear and so on. Yup, it was hard and slow.
Now everyone has immac or better in sockets, refines from 5 up , +10 wep are as common as they can be.

HexOmega - Dreamweaver · March 2011

oh well, ursa when you look at peoples gear, you ll see most of them still have flawless shards,
armor refined +4, weapon +5
but r8 seems to be everywhere now
and like 99% of lvl101 assasins have g13 daggers and rank8 tho

but when you mean everyone = the major TW powers (two or three factions),
then +5 armor +10 weapon are lower average

i see more people start +12ing their armors >.> mostly light armor classes

*random*
..oh when i think about +12,
does anyone remember that thread in DW forum where "this one archer" pretended that he committed suicide, blaming his ingame-relationship? (now he seems very lively and has warsoul)
i rememer a random comment like: His Gravstone will be +12

is this thread still online? i wanna save it and post it in faction forums

*/random*

/Groovy/ - Harshlands · March 2011

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

no aps, no party b:angry

Quoted for epic levels of truth

Evict - Heavens Tear · March 2011

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So I decided to practice on a test server

Read this and skimmed through the rest of post.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is the status of my lvl 150 endgame wizard

Saw this and stopped caring.

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver · March 2011

Well personally i think that it is ok to use illegal alternative servers ( that's what you call private server) to try out builds since there is no singleplayer mode and so on where you can test without messing your char up BUT and that's the main problem with all those servers is that they are not compareable to the normal servers. Furthermore i would refrain from posting stuff of your private server experiments in an official forum because a) you confuse people who are new to the game with by giving out missleading statements like ...once you've reached lvl 150 .....and b) due to the differences in gameplay there are often items and possibilities not available on the original servers like the so called "instant cast" effect which wont work on an original server.

Moreover when you talk abou the awesome abilities of a maxed character you should keep in mind that most people wont have that stuff on a regular server. I mean im aware that wiz can solve the hp problem with high refines but to be fair you have to take into account that other classes also can do so which in the end doesnt change the problem that you have relatively low hp compared to another class with equal refines.

greetz harm0wnie

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver · March 2011

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

Quoted for epic levels of truth

I love to enslave my r8 sin and my r8 cleric to improve my r9 wizard.
My wiz stuff is +7/+8. The r9 armor is +6.
The next refine levels are expensive and I dont want noob shards on my r9 armor xD
if I had not the sin and the cleric, it would be impossible to make enough money
let us say, wizard is a prestige class. if we want to get endgame stuffs we have to work twice as compared to other classes. A sin and a bm (and some good archers) dont need an alt to improve himself.

As I always say, there r 2 kind of bosses:
those with high phy def and those with high phy and mag def b:worried

NO aps, NO party
NO party, NO coins
NO coins, NO chance to improve

then: NO FUN

eyehaveyou · March 2011

o.O wht ppl r still playing wizards? b:shocked

Mortal_Kiss - Heavens Tear · March 2011

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

NO aps, NO party
NO party, NO coins
NO coins, NO chance to improve

then: NO FUN

This is epic and true.

MageFizban - Lost City · March 2011

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

let us say, wizard is a prestige class. if we want to get endgame stuffs we have to work twice as compared to other classes.

because when you roll a psy, the money just ROLLS in.

i just walk down west arch and people throw all their coins at me.

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver · March 2011

LOL Mage xD

I meant all magic class xD after that i talked about sins and bms.
But i think that wiz and psy r the most useless classes atm.

MageFizban - Lost City · March 2011

Zoccolina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

LOL Mage xD

I meant all magic class xD after that i talked about sins and bms.
But i think that wiz and psy r the most useless classes atm.

at least we r*pe in tw/group pvp

Gargorx - Raging Tide · March 2011

Most of ppl who has felt the wrath of sage bids, are normaly afraid of it, atleast ppl seem to say so, but funny fact 85% who know what bids is doesn't know it means Black Ice Dragon Strike.... some ppl don't even know what it looks like. like in random duels i used BT on arcanes ''Q_Q, unfair!!!, lets do other duel with rule NO BIDS !!!!''... ME; ''ok'' b:bye

PS % is based on ppl who i have met with this case

Galox - Heavens Tear · March 2011

Gargorx - Raging Tide wrote: »

Most of ppl who has felt the wrath of sage bids, are normaly afraid of it, atleast ppl seem to say so, but funny fact 85% who know what bids is doesn't know it means Black Ice Dragon Strike.... some ppl don't even know what it looks like. like in random duels i used BT on arcanes ''Q_Q, unfair!!!, lets do other duel with rule NO BIDS !!!!''... ME; ''ok'' b:bye

PS % is based on ppl who i have met with this case

Never been called out for using an Ultimate, but I've been called a "cheat" for using Sutra quite a few times now...

...And Yeah, funny when you can TELL Somebody thinks Wizzies are so easy to beat then just get totally owned. Another story is about a Barb I met in PK...

To be Fair, he did win the first fight. However, on the 2nd and 3rd Fights, He called me a cheat for:

@ Using (Genie) Sleep...?
@ Flying
@ Using Distance Shrink
@ Using Crab Meats

1..I didn't use Genie..He just had no idea a Wizard has an Instant Sleep Skill
2..He said I "Ran Off"...no dude, I was bringing the fight to the air, Don't expect me to Sit and Die like a Psy
3..o_o Kiting is not allowed in PK.
4..Using Health-Restoring Items are also not allowed in PK, Apparently.

Just sayin', It's one of those moments when people think Wizards are Easy to Beat...I like Wizard mainly because it is rare and, I think, Powerful if used correctly. Having people descend to calling you a "cheat" is just amazing really.

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