How do you initiate a Faction Siege Battles (40v40)

UrDian - Harshlands · March 2011

OK, so there's been a lot of hype and build up about the new 40v40 wars, and there's a fair amount of information (though poorly written) on the PW-wiki about it, but how do you actually initiate a war?

We've searched everything we could think of, but have been unable to find a way to initiate one of the new battles. Has anyone figured this out or confirmed that it isn't even implemented?

sangodoc · March 2011

From what I can tell, the faction leader can choose a target on Monday or Wednesday from 7:00 PM to 11:00 PM, server time, requiring a cost of 5 million coins, by talking to the correct NPC and picking a target from a list.

That's all in the wiki entry. I don't know who the correct NPC is, but I'd guess it's the Faction Base Manager (573 660). Please let me know if you find out.

Eoria - Harshlands · March 2011

Sangodoc wrote: »

From what I can tell, the faction leader can choose a target on Monday or Wednesday from 7:00 PM to 11:00 PM, server time, requiring a cost of 5 million coins, by talking to the correct NPC and picking a target from a list.

That's all in the wiki entry. I don't know who the correct NPC is, but I'd guess it's the Faction Base Manager (573 660). Please let me know if you find out.

Yeah. We looked there. Nothing.

sangodoc · March 2011

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Yeah. We looked there. Nothing.

Well, if nobody ever finds the correct NPC, then base problem solved! b:chuckle

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · March 2011

Yah I know factions on Sanc havent found the option either.

Could the 40v40 battles be unimplemented yet?

UrDian - Harshlands · March 2011

I can say that it is NOT the Faction Manager inside and the Faction Base Manager outside and I even checked each of the "obelisks" in each hall to see if something was on there.

Checked the Battle Coordinator, he only has TW related stuff.

I can only think of a few options at this point:

1) The base needs to be at a certain level (or health) to enable.
2) We just haven't found the right NPC for starting it.

-or-

3) The wars STILL haven't been implemented (same as on China server where they are/weren't implemented).

If, as I suspect, the 40v40 hasn't even been implemented, then I'm extremely irritated that we spent a ton of time, coin, and effort on building a guild base that may end up having limited usefulness. From what we can find so far, the weapons are useless except for the mid levels on your alts and most of the "good" things that the red text talks about have unbelievably high prices attached (some items >1 billion coins?!?!).

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · March 2011

Yah we also checked the following NPCs for options to declare a 40v40 battle during the declaration time period specified in the wiki.

-Faction Manager
-Each Faction Obelisk
-Faction Base Manager
-Faction Supervisor
-Battle Coordinator
-Nation Supervisor

Either a level 3 faction base just does not meat the requirement for the 40v40 battle or the 40v40 battles are unimplemented at the moment.

Longknife - Harshlands · March 2011

UrDian - Harshlands wrote: »

I can say that it is NOT the Faction Manager inside and the Faction Base Manager outside and I even checked each of the "obelisks" in each hall to see if something was on there.

Checked the Battle Coordinator, he only has TW related stuff.

I can only think of a few options at this point:

1) The base needs to be at a certain level (or health) to enable.
2) We just haven't found the right NPC for starting it.

-or-

3) The wars STILL haven't been implemented (same as on China server where they are/weren't implemented).

If, as I suspect, the 40v40 hasn't even been implemented, then I'm extremely irritated that we spent a ton of time, coin, and effort on building a guild base that may end up having limited usefulness. From what we can find so far, the weapons are useless except for the mid levels on your alts and most of the "good" things that the red text talks about have unbelievably high prices attached (some items >1 billion coins?!?!).

Ask Omerta. They figured it out.

And then initiated a war no one could go to cause no one had the war requirements yet. But hey, they figured it out!

Obly - Dreamweaver · March 2011

To be honest here, I find the 40v40 TW's fairly pointless.

It takes a huge investment to get a Guildbase, and the initial stats are well..useless for lvl 100+. Its almost impossible for the smaller factions to get one, let alone maintain with the HP thing.

But then, you gotta be an ***, and attack some1's base, destroy it making them needed to pay a "Fee" (Any1 know / found how much yet?). It sounds to me that they only implemented the 40v40 TW's to make the strongest factions be able 2 dominate easier, unless you have people sinking 100's of $ in the game, to get the coin needed to upgrade the base wings and core and form strategic alliances, 3 mil per 29 days.

I mean honestly, even when lvl-ed up, with the costs of the armory things, its the last tower that i will upgrade, cause the costs for the things is simply NOT worth it.

The mats in my base are all 5K within a day, and that;s the limit? ok what tower i gotta upgrade? No Official guide, so basically guessing Heavenly Vault here.

Secondly Exp rate...way slower then Mat donations. Good balance PWE. but ok fine.

I was hoping that the 40v40 TW's would be for lvl 1-2 + 3 factions without a guidlbase, but at any time engagable. See it like, hey you're people doing stuffs? Nope, wanna go train witha 40v40 TW? sure, pay 5 mil each, go do a training TW.

But no, they had 2 make it something that the smaller factions yet again can;t use.

ow yeah on a note for some that might wonder, i am not in a small faction, i am leader of a lvl 3 active faction, Kindrid. But yeah, i see where alot of smaller factions are now disbanning to fuse with bigger ones.

There goes diversity regarding factions. Already had 2 faction leaders contact me about disbanning their faction and transfer their main active people 2 mine. To bad we're full. Guess PWE didn;t think of making lvl 4 and 5 Factions. 400 and 800 members.

That;s a decent sized faction, 200 is not enough. Not by far. Ow and a management tab would be nice. Last date logged in. Session time. Would be easier 2 track activity with members that are NOT in my timezones.

kthnxbai

UrDian - Harshlands · March 2011

I spoke with the leader of Omerta and they did NOT declare a Faction Siege Battle. I believe that they must have used the alliance system to declare war on Crimson; which is NOT the same as initiating the 40v40 battles.

In fact, unless I'm mistaken, spending the 3m coins to declare war on someone give the net effect of adding an indicator over the opposing factions head - oh, and this OP status change only lasts for 30 days (/sarcasm off).

From a hardcore supporter of this game: The lack of anything new and useful for the 100+ crowd is really turning me off. Many, many of us were looking forward to the 40v40 wars as additional PvP opportunities. VERY dissappointing...

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · March 2011

UrDian - Harshlands wrote: »

I spoke with the leader of Omerta and they did NOT declare a Faction Siege Battle. I believe that they must have used the alliance system to declare war on Crimson; which is NOT the same as initiating the 40v40 battles.

In fact, unless I'm mistaken, spending the 3m coins to declare war on someone give the net effect of adding an indicator over the opposing factions head - oh, and this OP status change only lasts for 30 days (/sarcasm off).

From a hardcore supporter of this game: The lack of anything new and useful for the 100+ crowd is really turning me off. Many, many of us were looking forward to the 40v40 wars as additional PvP opportunities. VERY dissappointing...

There is no reason to fight those base wars yet anyway, exept for destroying the other faction's buildings. Every single faction with a base out there has full mat bank anyway

Obly - Dreamweaver · March 2011

UrDian - Harshlands wrote: »

I spoke with the leader of Omerta and they did NOT declare a Faction Siege Battle. I believe that they must have used the alliance system to declare war on Crimson; which is NOT the same as initiating the 40v40 battles.

In fact, unless I'm mistaken, spending the 3m coins to declare war on someone give the net effect of adding an indicator over the opposing factions head - oh, and this OP status change only lasts for 30 days (/sarcasm off). Correct, it just gives you and indication of the policy towards that factions. Alliances show Dark blue faction name (no additional benefits yet found. Speculated was that alliance members can help defend your faction base. According to the faction base exam, they should NOT be able to do so.

From a hardcore supporter of this game: The lack of anything new and useful for the 100+ crowd is really turning me off. Many, many of us were looking forward to the 40v40 wars as additional PvP opportunities. VERY dissappointing...Agreed, i would have loved to see a 40v40 mini-tw that also allows lower lvl factions to give TW's a shot. However, its now only 40v40 BASE Siege battles. Lower lvl factions left out yet again, secondly the times that one can activate these sieges and the time that they take place are horrible! The bidding is around 5 AM my time, same for the battles...European players are thus also left out of this feature, or at least the working ones. (My timezone is GMT+1 The netherlands)

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TheDan - Sanctuary · March 2011

Well, tbh there is one last thing we haven't checked yet on that list. Perhaps you must declare hostility against another faction before you can declare war on their base? What are the prerequisites? Lmao. Maybe people can avoid having their bases attacked by declining hostility (war)?

Maybe only hostile factions cannot decline base wars?

UrDian - Harshlands · March 2011

Maybe if someone from Omerta reads this they can check if there is a way for them to open a 40v40 war. They're the only faction that I know of that has declared war on another faction on Harshlands.

VonSabrewulf - Harshlands · March 2011

AfterLife declared war on Evoke, but other than the faction name change dont see anything else differentb:chuckle

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · March 2011

Having to declare war first would make alot of sense.

Suiryujin - Sanctuary · March 2011

but since when do pwi makes so much sense?>.>
its much more likely fac base war hasnt been implemented. if u stay in the fac base and read all the red text spam hint from it, one of the hint says faction war is coming soon.

angellicdeity · March 2011

Its not actually 40v40 TW:

40v40 per base.

Attack and defend bases during a battle.

If you declare you open up your own base to be demolished too.

40v40 in Faction A's base.
40v40 in Faction B's base.

80v80 TW overall.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear · March 2011

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

its much more likely fac base war hasnt been implemented.

Wrong.

It is much more likely that base wars are bugged.

Zaphael - Heavens Tear · March 2011

angellicdeity wrote: »

Its not actually 40v40 TW:

40v40 per base.

Attack and defend bases during a battle.

If you declare you open up your own base to be demolished too.

40v40 in Faction A's base.
40v40 in Faction B's base.

80v80 TW overall.

So....basically my headache just got bigger. Where did you find this info?

Escorian - Dreamweaver · March 2011

i believe you activate it when you have enough contribution through the guild roster. there is an npc inside the faction base that tells alot about these wars. this information was given to me by the leader of a faction that has a base i will leave his name out unless he would like to step forward.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · March 2011

Well this is one of the tips.

http://i.imgur.com/bsj0x.png

Does that mean the faction war is not currently implemented? I guess the GMs forgot to tell us about that little fact.

This will likely be implemented the same time they open up the Arena. Never.

Longknife - Harshlands · March 2011

I would laugh my balls off if it was like, once you declare another faction as your enemy, they have to declare you as their enemy too, THEN you can attack them.

eagle111 · March 2011

Hi,

I'm the Omerta leader. Yes, we declared war on Crimson with the "open to anyone" system as a component of the standard guild interface.

There are no options at any of the locations mentioned in prior posts which would allow us to initiate a war. I have checked at the specific times mentioned. Nothing. Our base, however, is only level 2. I'll check again at level 3.

---Izzy

_Petal_ - Harshlands · March 2011

Another GREAT expansion....[/sarcasm]
At least during Raging Tides we had a CLUE about Nirvana...here they just throw the information out and expect you to understand it.

Where is Frankie with all of this? This is his JOB to explain this **** to us.

Vongola angry! VONGOLA SMASH! b:angry

ISweet - Harshlands · June 2011

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well this is one of the tips.

http://i.imgur.com/bsj0x.png

helpfull tip b:victory

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · June 2011

ISweet - Harshlands wrote: »

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well this is one of the tips.

http://i.imgur.com/bsj0x.png

helpfull tip b:victory

FANTASTIC! You necroed a thread, just for that? b:scorn

How do you initiate a Faction Siege Battles (40v40)

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