What to shard with

GolsBytch - Heavens Tear
GolsBytch - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Psychic
I cant seem to decide on what to put on my rank 9 set. I was thinking of putting all JoSD on all 16 sockets or should I mix it with cit gem or garnet gem. Wanted to know if someone put all JoSD and how is it working out for them in terms of their survivability against all class with our pdef low and all. Thanks in advance.
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I would shard half cit gem half garnet gem on all pieces.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I would say full mana gems but we don't have Manifest Virtue like wizzies.
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd say mix JOSD and garnet gems and get hp via refines.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=041b7091ec6cca0b
    something like that?

    However with full refines and vit stones it is possible to obtain 20k hp on a psy.
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wait for +20 vit stones and shard away. :)
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  • GolsBytch - Heavens Tear
    GolsBytch - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'd say mix JOSD and garnet gems and get hp via refines.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=041b7091ec6cca0b
    something like that?

    However with full refines and vit stones it is possible to obtain 20k hp on a psy.

    I was thinking that kinda build for my endgame but instead of garnet gems on hat ill put dtigers so when i go white voodoo i still have regular attack but gaininh around 120 defense level.
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    GolsBytch - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I cant seem to decide on what to put on my rank 9 set. I was thinking of putting all JoSD on all 16 sockets or should I mix it with cit gem or garnet gem. Wanted to know if someone put all JoSD and how is it working out for them in terms of their survivability against all class with our pdef low and all. Thanks in advance.

    ooooh, that sounds sexy.
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  • SSarmento - Raging Tide
    SSarmento - Raging Tide Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Put only JoDs and refine to +10, forget about cit gem or garnet, they are useless.
  • Kerona - Sanctuary
    Kerona - Sanctuary Posts: 1,771 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SSarmento - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Put only JoDs and refine to +10, forget about cit gem or garnet, they are useless.

    lol.

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  • GolsBytch - Heavens Tear
    GolsBytch - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    101 Sage Psychic Final Build Option

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8d53f8dcba86de76

    Gear total: 41 attack level
    Jones Blessing: 30 attack level
    R9 6 piece bonus: 30 attack level

    Total: 101 attack level

    Gear total: 41 defense level
    R9 6 piece bonus: 20 defense level

    Total: 61 defense level


    Factor in:


    Sage Black Voodoo = + 25 attack level, - 11 defense level

    101 + 25 = 126 attack level
    61 - 11 = 50 defense level

    Sage White Voodoo = - 99 attack level, + 71 defense level

    101 - 99 = 2 attack level
    61 + 71 = 132 defense level
  • AegisGrey - Heavens Tear
    AegisGrey - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I thought Sage White Voodoo boosted your Def Lv. to 71?
  • GolsBytch - Heavens Tear
    GolsBytch - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    AegisGrey - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I thought Sage White Voodoo boosted your Def Lv. to 71?

    Thnx for input will update post :)
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Vit stones/ cit gems/ garnets benefit the same in both white voodoo as they do in black voodoo while jades aren't as good in white voodoo as they are in black because of diminishing returns with the defense levels. so if you spend a lot of time switching in between the two you might want to take that into consideration.
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    To be honest I'm pretty sure the difference between having 100 defense level or so and 71 isn't that huge... Perhaps sharding with full DoTs to get normal or extra attack level when you're in White Voodoo with R9 could be cool, but in my opinion getting hp and pdef sort of outways that (especially pdef..)
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  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    To be honest I'm pretty sure the difference between having 100 defense level or so and 71 isn't that huge... Perhaps sharding with full DoTs to get normal or extra attack level when you're in White Voodoo with R9 could be cool, but in my opinion getting hp and pdef sort of outways that (especially pdef..)

    difference between 100 and 71 def lv for pve is nothing lol, literaly nothing, havin def lv above 50 for pve is meaningless, only matters in pvp where erveryone has a jones blessing and players could have r9 pieces/set
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »
    difference between 100 and 71 def lv for pve is nothing lol, literaly nothing, havin def lv above 50 for pve is meaningless, only matters in pvp where erveryone has a jones blessing and players could have r9 pieces/set

    Yeah. . .either they have r9 wep and/or 4 piece bonus for r9.

    Either way, you're probably screwed.
  • AegisGray - Heavens Tear
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    GolsBytch - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thnx for input will update post :)

    No problem ^_^

    And I had considered going with +Atk Level and + Def Level shards but since the amount of damage you deal/take depends on the person your attacking/defending against I might change my plans a little. also taken into consideration I'm mostly a PvE player; I rarely get the chance to PvP. *shrugs* Still have a ways to go before I need to settle on a decision.

    For those that don't know:

    Attack Level: For each Point you have over your Opponents Defense level you deal 1% more damage.

    Defense level: For each Point you have over your Opponents Attack level you take 1% less damage.


    -Edit- most understand this but *shrugs* thought I'd clarify for any who many not.

    -Re-edit- Also o_o do Def and Atk shards give off effects like the other 8+ Grade Shards? I'm a bit of a sucker for such things. . .
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    -Re-edit- Also o_o do Def and Atk shards give off effects like the other 8+ Grade Shards? I'm a bit of a sucker for such things. . .

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1027511
  • AegisGray - Heavens Tear
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1027511

    *tips his hat* ^__^
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  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    To be honest I'm pretty sure the difference between having 100 defense level or so and 71 isn't that huge... Perhaps sharding with full DoTs to get normal or extra attack level when you're in White Voodoo with R9 could be cool, but in my opinion getting hp and pdef sort of outways that (especially pdef..)

    I got full DoT shards (except for helm and cape). 110 attack lvl unbuffed, 135 attack lvl on black voodoo, 11 attack lvl on white.

    http://pwcalc.com/b5251aa7fc1ca57d
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I got full DoT shards (except for helm and cape). 110 attack lvl unbuffed, 135 attack lvl on black voodoo, 11 attack lvl on white.

    http://pwcalc.com/b5251aa7fc1ca57d

    You. . .+12'd a g14 cube. . .
  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    You. . .+12'd a g14 cube. . .

    i did... yes

    helps a lot while I get my stage 3 cube neck b:pleased
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I got full DoT shards (except for helm and cape). 110 attack lvl unbuffed, 135 attack lvl on black voodoo, 11 attack lvl on white.

    http://pwcalc.com/b5251aa7fc1ca57d

    Yeah, Zerhee's Psychic has this build too. It looks fancy and all to have positive attack level when you're in White Voodoo, but I don't think its optimal. Essentially you'll rock other Psychics and perhaps Wizards, but against dps classes you'll have more trouble. Especially EAs.

    Also, that build is great as long as you don't meet another full R9er. Because then, your fancy defense level will be cancelled out and so will your little attack level in White Voodoo. Which is why I would rely more on hp and pdef gems.. But that's just me.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    Yeah, Zerhee's Psychic has this build too. It looks fancy and all to have positive attack level when you're in White Voodoo, but I don't think its optimal. Essentially you'll rock other Psychics and perhaps Wizards, but against dps classes you'll have more trouble. Especially EAs.

    Also, that build is great as long as you don't meet another full R9er. Because then, your fancy defense level will be cancelled out and so will your little attack level in White Voodoo. Which is why I would rely more on hp and pdef gems.. But that's just me.

    No, the good thing about this build is that it absolutely ROCKS people like shinzoko and archevil.
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    How could it possibly rock Shinzoko? R9 EAs are a pain for us, no matter what. You get your pretty White Voodoo dispelled and then you're ****ed. Not to mention he has like 60 defense level minimum, so with White Voodoo on and 16 attack level or so, you won"t do much in my opinion.

    Well it comes down to skills at some point, but I don't believe in this build.
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    How could it possibly rock Shinzoko? R9 EAs are a pain for us, no matter what. You get your pretty White Voodoo dispelled and then you're ****ed. Not to mention he has like 60 defense level minimum, so with White Voodoo on and 16 attack level or so, you won"t do much in my opinion.

    Well it comes down to skills at some point, but I don't believe in this build.

    Uh, I meant in black voodoo. Pretty much makes his jades go to sht. Everything else hits him for **** bc of his defense levels, but when you have that many atk lvls, even lovely shin here starts feeling the damage.
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ugh.... I don't know, I can't help but think that build makes you too squishy.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
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  • Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Risingson - Lost City wrote: »
    Ugh.... I don't know, I can't help but think that build makes you too squishy.

    tbh, I'm not squishy at all... I can easily tank full r9 archers, BM's, wizzies, clerics... even when they come at me at the same time.

    and to back MageFizban up... I can pretty much one/two shot full r9 archers (all +12 with JoSD).

    More pdef would be great... but dont really need it when u can kill the other before they even tick ur charm. Due to my SF an archer gets sealed on me once every two shots or three, so it's not that easy for them to beat me. That's my case anyway...
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  • AegisGray - Heavens Tear
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Gorgonnia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I got full DoT shards (except for helm and cape). 110 attack lvl unbuffed, 135 attack lvl on black voodoo, 11 attack lvl on white.

    http://pwcalc.com/b5251aa7fc1ca57d


    Sorry to pry but I'm seeing an Attack Level of 55 unbuffed (85 with blessing and 110 buffed) <.< what did I miss?
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sorry to pry but I'm seeing an Attack Level of 55 unbuffed (85 with blessing and 110 buffed) <.< what did I miss?

    You missed realizing that pwcalc is still **** up R9 set bonuses.
  • AegisGray - Heavens Tear
    AegisGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    You missed realizing that pwcalc is still **** up R9 set bonuses.

    ;3 Thanks for the clarification.
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