ATK LVL QQ thread

krelianmage
krelianmage Posts: 132 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
OK, heres another QQ thread...


Just as the Rank 9 +12 era aproaches us a new problem arises... the people with 100 like atk lvls


Do u like being one shoted by every single rank 9 noob? i mean, whats the fun that u get hit by a single atk, not that super powerfull 2 sparks skills, and die... not a charm tick, nothing can save u from the rank 9s...

So, why not have a atk lvl nerf???? caps atk lvl at 50. rank 9 +12 wouldnt be a problem if it didnt came up with atk lvl bonuses... that way too broken. we dont have anything near 30 def lvls in the game.... so y have 70 + atk lvls...b:cry
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Or at least give us +30 DEF lvl blessings to match the jones ones.
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  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Become rank 9, they you won't be able to be 1 shotted by rank 9.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    this is like complaining that someone's +12 wep can 1 shot you in +0 armor...
  • SeaCrit_Sin - Harshlands
    SeaCrit_Sin - Harshlands Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    PvP in this game is for the most part... well, pathetic.


    Other MMORPGS showcase endgame PvP (1 vs 1) that can last several minutes.

    PWI offers us 1 shot kills.


    Are there exceptions? Of course, but this holds true more often than not.


    I think all of this is foreshadowing not a fix, but new gems and possibly gears to be obtained via whatever new assortment of pack they release. I wouldn't be surprised to see +20 vit stones make their way out this year and/or additions to the gear you can obtain from guild bases.
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    do yourself a favor and build your character on pwcalc with full rank 9. look at the complect bonuses you get. now look at other gear that gives defense and attack levels. then look at all the shards you have available to you in game. im certain you can come up with something that exceeds 30 defense levels. r9 + cube neck alone gives ~25 defense levels.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    full def lvls shards and woops 48 ? :X.. i mean there stuff avaivble to hit like 55-60 def lvls without R9.. idk where u get your "hard to exceed 30" from..

    no reason complain about attack lvls, jsut cos u cant afford to shard def lvls.. lol
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    PWI offers us 1 shot kills

    Hello, I'm a wizard. You know, the 1 shot class (both offensively and defensively b:surrender)

    1 shot kills really aren't that common tbh, and definitely not against people equal geared/lvls.

    And whenever I do 1v1 against people my level, a fight rarely lasts less than a minute if it's a fair fight, and almost always more than 4 minutes if my opponent is skilled and neither of us get a lucky crit early on.


    That's with non-sin classes that is. A fight with a sin is either die in 10sec or kill them in 20 sec.
  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Roll A Seeker , Shard with JoSD, Use the daily Def blessing .. should be able 80+ Def levels
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If you have equivalent refines on armor / ornaments you won't be one shot. If your gear is of much less quality you shouldn't expect to win.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Become rank 9, they you won't be able to be 1 shotted by rank 9.

    Actually I was watching 2 R9s (Archer and Mage) fighting. Both got +12 weapon and +10 and up armor. It was just both people running from each other, afraid to get hit. Then bam, Archer got one hit with Stone Rain.
  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OK, heres another QQ thread...


    Just as the Rank 9 +12 era aproaches us a new problem arises... the people with 100 like atk lvls


    Do u like being one shoted by every single rank 9 noob? i mean, whats the fun that u get hit by a single atk, not that super powerfull 2 sparks skills, and die... not a charm tick, nothing can save u from the rank 9s...

    So, why not have a atk lvl nerf???? caps atk lvl at 50. rank 9 +12 wouldnt be a problem if it didnt came up with atk lvl bonuses... that way too broken. we dont have anything near 30 def lvls in the game.... so y have 70 + atk lvls...b:cry

    They will never do this.

    The whole selling point of R9 is the 64 attack levels you can get from the bonus. They will not gimp their source of income just because you cant afford to shard Jade of Steady Defense.

    They however will consider making +5 defense level stones if they can make $200 a pop out of it for $4800 a character.

    In which case you'll complain because you cant even hit triple digits on the people sharding them (the same people who have the r9)
  • Kreigan - Lost City
    Kreigan - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OK, heres another QQ thread...

    we dont have anything near 30 def lvls in the game....

    *Looks at buff that gives me +30 def lvls for 30 mins at lvl 10*

    HMMmmmMMm...Did i just WIN THE GAME?^^
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Or at least give us +30 DEF lvl blessings to match the jones ones.

    Or they can remove jolly jones blessings so people can learn how to play better b:bye
    Become rank 9, they you won't be able to be 1 shotted by rank 9.

    dude... wtf are you talking about? Its the +12 and attack level stacked, having such insane attack level does not apply to defense. Even r9 people can get 1 shotted easy in this game.
    PvP in this game is for the most part... well, pathetic.

    I will have to agree with you, which is why I don't PVP on this game, its dull and stupid. Same as gambling IMHO. If it is not one shotting, it is stun locking to death. Sins just have it easier in PK mode where people QQ about stealth

    Other MMORPGS showcase endgame PvP (1 vs 1) that can last several minutes.

    PWI offers us 1 shot kills.

    This is actually true, I do not see any skill required in this in this. I think damage and dps nerf should be nice. Like wizards one shotting people with divine pyrogram, and things like that. To top that off, genie combinations making it much faster.

    Are there exceptions? Of course, but this holds true more often than not.


    I think all of this is foreshadowing not a fix, but new gems and possibly gears to be obtained via whatever new assortment of pack they release. I wouldn't be surprised to see +20 vit stones make their way out this year and/or additions to the gear you can obtain from guild bases.

    I am honestly thinking the devs won't make 20 VIT stones, (or 15 mag/dex/str stones) really, possibly would be actually 10 like stone of savant and primeval stones (that was rumored as 20 VIT too one time).

    Attack level nerf would make DDs mad XD. But as the best part, it would be a little more complex for the 5.0 BMs and assassins instead of braindead easy for them (still will). But on the other hand... other 5.0 chars (LOL) would probably be even less wanted in squads unless veno glitch fox form b:surrender
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • juniortroll
    juniortroll Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited March 2011
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Um,no it's not balanced or anything.The attack power is too much over the defense you can get atm in PWI and this wasn't happening a few months ago.Pvp used to take longer and was more than just "hit button,pew pew kill",you actually had to use your brain in order to kill some1,now it's overkill...even r9 vs r9,those "diminishing returns" don't cut it,ijs.

    Jones blessings where bad,r9 attack lvls are terribad.Even the most all-round,well geared tanks go down pretty fast vs r9s now and remember that you only need to refine 1 piece of equipment in order to do insane dmg while you'd need to refine/shard several times more parts in order to at least attempt to survive a bit more. Cost is several times more and even then you can still get killed easily.

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